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Husband taking kids abroad

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mumspiration1997 · 16/05/2024 12:30

AIBU?

My husbands sister is getting married in Greece in September. I have a chronic fear of flying. Never been on a plane since I had to get taken off one by medics. However , he wants to bring out 2 boys. 5 and I. His whole family going and I really really would love to be there for my sis-in-law however I just have to accept I can't go. I don't want my boys that far away from me and I don't want them missing out. Help! Would you let them go and spent the week pacing the floors?

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HerORMe · 16/05/2024 12:53

mumspiration1997 · 16/05/2024 12:47

Thanks. Il look into hypnotherapy. Fully aware I can't stop them living there lives. DS will be 11 months actually at the time so I would be a lot happier if he could stay with me if unable to go. Does this sound reasonable? My m.i.l wants him there for a family photo. But my husband has been working in another country on and off for 6months and hasn't spent a lot of time with DS so would be worried it would be a very stressful week for everyone including DH and DS.

Cripes. Def don’t send 1 year old. Have also been in a similar position where a child’s “duty” to family was placed above their wellbeing. It’s just wrong. Hope you can put your foot down.

SinnerBoy · 16/05/2024 12:53

HeresMyBreakdown · Today 12:33

Can you get there by train and boat?

I was wondering the same thing.

mumspiration1997

A couple of posters have suggested a sedative, that could be a good backup, if the hypnotherapy doesn't work, or even if you're not sure it has!

Greyheronsarethebest · 16/05/2024 12:52

interrail?

HerORMe · 16/05/2024 12:51

KateMiskin · 16/05/2024 12:41

I am certain that if a man had asked this, nobody would have told him his wife would not be able to manage two kids on a short flight to a child-friendly country with plenty of family to help.

Yeah course. Because most would. You can’t pretend it’s the same with most fathers!

GoldDuster · 16/05/2024 12:50

mumspiration1997 · 16/05/2024 12:47

Thanks. Il look into hypnotherapy. Fully aware I can't stop them living there lives. DS will be 11 months actually at the time so I would be a lot happier if he could stay with me if unable to go. Does this sound reasonable? My m.i.l wants him there for a family photo. But my husband has been working in another country on and off for 6months and hasn't spent a lot of time with DS so would be worried it would be a very stressful week for everyone including DH and DS.

In this case 5yo yes, 1yo no. MIL doesn't get to drag a baby round the world for a photo, no, especially if he's not spent much time with DH.

rosesandlollipops · 16/05/2024 12:50

Why can't you drive? and plan a holiday around it? Driving around Europe was a normal thing when I was little.
Otherwise- yes, I'd send them both...

GoldDuster · 16/05/2024 12:49

The five year old definitely, possibly not the 1 yo depending on how hands on DH has been so far with the parenting. It sounds like there will be plenty of family there and they will have a lovely time.

Yes, their father should be able to take them to the family gathering if you will not go. Staying in the house for a week pacing the floors would not be compulsory, that would be in your hands.

ZippyZappyZoo · 16/05/2024 12:48

I have a fear of flying too but no way would I let my entire family get on a plane without me. Would rather we all died together 🫣 so I’d go!

mumspiration1997 · 16/05/2024 12:47

Thanks. Il look into hypnotherapy. Fully aware I can't stop them living there lives. DS will be 11 months actually at the time so I would be a lot happier if he could stay with me if unable to go. Does this sound reasonable? My m.i.l wants him there for a family photo. But my husband has been working in another country on and off for 6months and hasn't spent a lot of time with DS so would be worried it would be a very stressful week for everyone including DH and DS.

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Greyheronsarethebest · 16/05/2024 12:47

you cannot have it both ways. Why should they not go because of your irrational fears. Let them go.

Also, have you spoken to the GP? My friend is terrified but manages to fly with prescription diazepam. Would that be an option?

Roundroundthegarden · 16/05/2024 12:46

There's a course you can do I think? Maybe try look at that?

Rosebud21 · 16/05/2024 12:45

This course is recommended for people with your fear of flying. I think it's reasonable for your husband to take the children on holiday, if you decide you cannot go with them. https://flyingwithconfidence.com/

Fear of flying courses from British Airways™

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AgentProvocateur · 16/05/2024 12:44

Of course they should go. They should t miss out due to your fear of flying. Have you tried hypnotherapy/a fear of flying course at a local airport? These cured my brother of the same phobia

Simonjt · 16/05/2024 12:44

Of course they should go, while I’m not a fan of lies, here I would lie and make a reason you can’t go, rather than saying you fear flying as this could cause them to fear it. I was in a different country to our then 1 year old and eight year old for almost six weeks last year, I missed them and they missed me, but no pacing here and everyone was fine.

Some airlines run special courses for people who are scared of flying, I don’t know if that would be any use to you at all.

KateMiskin · 16/05/2024 12:41

I am certain that if a man had asked this, nobody would have told him his wife would not be able to manage two kids on a short flight to a child-friendly country with plenty of family to help.

DaisyChain505 · 16/05/2024 12:40

Of course they should go. They will be with their other (fully capable) parent.

try not to put your desire to have your kids with you first and let them go and live their lives.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 16/05/2024 12:39

It would be very unfair to stop them going because of your phobia. Assuming your husband is their father, he has every right to take his kids to his sister's wedding.

Have you had therapy for this? It's such a shame for you to be missing out. My mum had terrible fear of flying triggered by being stuck in a broken lift. The two are connected by some form of claustrophobia apparently. She was also wouldn't go in lifts. On top of counselling she went for some sessions that BA offer for free where you just go and sit on a plane on the ground for a while. It seems it's a common enough problem for them to offer those regular sessions. It's very with looking into. My mum has since flown to New Zealand from England.

HerORMe · 16/05/2024 12:38

Some of the responses are a bit insensitive?! I’d let the 5 year old go if his father is totally capable of being in sole charge and 5 year old is ok away from you for that long. It’s pointless taking the 1 year old though! They’d not remember a thing so it’s for the family’s benefit rather than theirs. I’d hate that and not let it happen.

If you feel ready to face your fear, then have you tried hypnotherapy? Would probably need a fair few sessions but can be amazingly effective

mindutopia · 16/05/2024 12:36

Sounds perfectly fine for them to go, assuming you feel confident that he will be able to manage a 5 & a 1 year old alone in another country at a wedding.

If he is an engaged, responsible parent, yes, seems like a no brainer. If he is prone for struggling to cope with them or spends very little time with them or has form for getting drunk at weddings and blacking out, then that's a different story. The reality is that a wedding with two small children who will likely need to leave before the end is very different to a family wedding child-free, so that's something to consider.

But yes, I take my dc abroad alone without dh. It's a perfectly normal thing to do, especially if the other parent can't or won't go. Alternatively, if easier, he could take the 5 year old and 1 year old could stay with you (they won't remember it anyway).

KateMiskin · 16/05/2024 12:36

I would absolutely let them go. No way will my DC miss out on life because of my own fears.

skippy67 · 16/05/2024 12:36

YABU. Do you want to pass your fear of flying onto your kids? Fine if you feel you can't get on a plane, but I think it's very selfish of you to say they can't.

Chirawehaha · 16/05/2024 12:35

Why would you be ‘pacing the floors’?

I’m very sorry about your anxiety, but you cannot limit your children because of it. I’m sure you realise this and don’t actually need us to tell you.

PuttingDownRoots · 16/05/2024 12:34

5yo... definitely go.

1yo... just one or nearly 2yo? I'd be tempted to suggest he stays at home as he won't remember and may actually be happier at home. Nearer 2 he might enjoy it more.

Whisperingsummerishere · 16/05/2024 12:34

Op you're a grown up! You've given birth... Twice... See your GP about some meds to get you on that plane! You can do it!!

partygate · 16/05/2024 12:33

With kindness, yes. This won’t be the first or last time your husband/children will want to go on a flight. And easier said than done could you look at getting some treatment? It’s hugely difficult I know but your fear will unnecessarily restrict the rest of your family.

Unless something has happened since or there are issues, you trusted your husband enough to have children with him. He will be absolutely fine and they’ll have a great time.