To ask what on earth do people who post about Palestine expect to happen?

I often look at this conflict and think of Cyprus. Cyprus was invaded by Turkey and Cyprus was divided in two. Many Cypriots were forced from their homes in the north. But Cyprus is at peace. The world isn't so angry about it.

And the Palestinians (admittedly older now) born pre Israel are they just forgotten? Was it not their land?

When I was a child and people talked about Palestine it seemed so far away and it would perhaps get 30 seconds of air time if that, v now we are seeing raw footage of people getting the drone knock, fleeing their homes and the aftermath.

The fact that OP felt the need for this thread creates awareness. Even if you think it’s a waste of time the very fact you’ve asked the question has got you and others talking about it.

I've always said and I still believe that if what was happening to Gaza was being done by another Muslim country, no one would care, or very few would care.

Whether it's conscious or sub conscious I think a huge amount of the pro Palestinian movement is motivated by anti semitism. Goodies and baddies to them. It's like a football match..pick a side.

Op. With the greatest respect don't make the mistake of trying to compare the situations, it's not a competition as to who gets the most sm posts. All civilians in danger due to war are just as valid as each other where ever they are in the world. What's your issue here ? You don't want there to be awareness of the situation in gaze? Mass graves, children being killed in the 1000s , children being orphaned... the population are being starved shall i carry on. These ppl are not animals they are humans like you and I so don't begrudge the awareness being raised. If you're concerned about Ukraine make your own posts to spread awareness, both wars can and do need to be spoken of.

Exactly.

Indeed. Not sure what OP thinks their own post is “achieving” 😂. But also raising awareness of atrocious things in the world is a good thing.

lol OK thats a fair point. sorry I didn't realise. thank you for clarifying ♡

@therealcookiemonster my post was to someone who said Jewish people were all Europeans originally which is not true, I was not saying only people who have been there a long time can live on land.

The pro Palestinian lobby are certainly very vocal online but I think you'll find there is quietly a lot of support for Israel. It's a bit like when there's a general election. No one ever seems to admit they vote conservative yet they keep winning elections.

@Northernnature my family line goes back to Yemen and its verifiable as very clear records were kept due to the nature of my ancestry. they also tended to marry first cousins a lot to "keep the bloodline pure". my ancestors have been living in Bangladesh for the last 400 years.

does that mean I get to go back to Yemen and claim my ancestral land?

while we are at it, anyone who is not aboriginal or first nation should leave north America and Australia. then we can get round to newzealand, south America etc etc

and what about the all those who are Palestinians that are actually descended from Jewish ancestors who converted to Islam or Christianity, don't they deserve to live there? because the same core group of people have been living there for millenia apart from usual migration. After Romans expelled many Jewish people, the kurdish general salahuddin welcomed them back and ordered the rebuilding of synagogues. and that region has had a large Jewish population since. the issues only began when mass immigration started following the holocaust and the subsequent expulsion of other religous communities. the then rabbi of Jerusalem opposed the formation of Israel incidentally, something that is never mentioned.

agreed.

I'm a religous Conservative Muslim and a lot of my social circle consists of very religous people of various backgrounds and faiths. I'm yet to meet someone of any religion who think that religous texts are a sane basis for determining who gets to live where.

and God stating a certain land will be inherited by a certain group of people doesn't mean He is telling them to go take it but rather its a prophecy of something that will happen. in the same way the outcomes of wars between the Persians v Romans was foretold in the Qur'an.

anyone who thinks theological texts should be the basis of laying claim to any kind of property or land needs to get their head checked.

If I recall correctly, the Quran also talks about Palestine as the Holy Land that will be inherited by the righteous. If we're using religious texts to sort out who belongs on this land, doesn't that mean both sides have a claim?

In a humane world, no one would condone the kidnapping, rape, murder or bombing of civilians on either side by governments who justify those actions as necessary.

I'm embarrassed for you.

@sunnydaysanddaydreams because our government are actively supporting Ukraine? Rather than actively supporting Israel in the atrocities it's carrying out?

Don't you read the news? The answer to your question is no btw.

You don't remember the support for Ukraine which is ongoing? People taking in Ukrainians? The government permitting access to Ukraines?

What is it about Palestinians being murdererd that doesn't bother you OP?

@meisafairy I agree not much is being achieved to help Gaza and it is horrifying but I wouldn't say "white nations" aren't interested. I hear a LOT about it. Sudan, on the other hand....
Why so catty about "saviour complexes" whilst advocating intervention?

Disagree think Echt has made a good point

I would say this is much like how many important things with the passage of time sadly get less air time. There are lots of sad and horrible things that we aren't speaking up about. I would say though, if there is something like this, then it's worth always voicing and not giving up on.

They were voted in once, in 2005 or thereabouts. It’s 2024 now….

I am one of those people who posts on SM about Palestine. I don't ever post asking others to post though. But I will post about what is happening. I am careful not to share graphic images and I perhaps post something once a week on average. Other than a feeling of human empathy, it does also feel close to home for me because I'm Muslim. My reason is that I don't feel like it is being accurately reported in mainstream news.

And so, having said all of the above, I would also like to add that I am nervous about sharing this on SM. I think things like what will people think of me? Will they categorise me as an "extremist". Most of my friends don't share the same background as me and I don't want them to think something negative of me. In the 90s, growing up, I wasn't at all nervous about how people perceived my background, however, I increasingly stay quiet about being Muslim in public. I don't feel like we are moving in an inclusive direction and I do think the media and SM has a lot to do with that.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I did think hard about it before sharing anything on SM and I felt that it was a small way I could highlight what is happening.

peakygold · Today 11:30

"Didn't Hamas start it And now they are getting their butts kicked? The Palestinians voted for Hamas to lead them, so reap the wild wind, as they say."

This child of Holocaust survivors shows so much more compassion than you.

https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1790441926694482105