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To ask what on earth do people who post about Palestine expect to happen?

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trekking1 · 15/05/2024 22:53

It seems that every time I log into social media there are so people constantly posting about how we need to free Palestine and condemning everyone who ignores their posts.

May I ask what do they expect posting about it will actually accomplish? Did I miss something and wars can be stopped with SM posts? If so, why are they not posting the same about Ukraine? There is still a war going on there...

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TakeMe2Insanity · 16/05/2024 19:38

therealcookiemonster · 16/05/2024 19:35

I find people who use religion as a means of oppressing and hurting others don't actually believe in God at all even the ones who say they do. because anyone truly believing in a Being who Created all life should not be able to take life so willingly

Oppression is just wrong.
Occupation is just wrong.

TakeMe2Insanity · 16/05/2024 19:37

OolongTeaDrinker · 16/05/2024 18:48

Argggh I explained in a subsequent post - you like another poster have misunderstood what I am saying - my point was in response to the OP in that people I know who have not said a peep online about other recent atrocities and genocides are now posting about the situation in Gaza multiple times per day - which would be understandable if they had ties to the region but they don’t, so why haven’t they been so fixated on other situations where lots of innocent people are being massacred? No amount of 🍉 emojis and ‘solidarity 👊’ is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the conflict.

Maybe this touches them differently?

Watermelons may mean nothing to you but when the Palestinians weren’t allowed to fly their flag they drew pictures of watermelons as their resistance to occupation. Again that does nothing in itself but to the Palestinians I know it means we care about them and are trying to keep them alive. So many villages have been wiped away, homes repopulated, and now so many lives lost keeping the watermelons going keeps them visible. This thread (and the 8+ pages of posts) proves it.

therealcookiemonster · 16/05/2024 19:35

TakeMe2Insanity · 16/05/2024 19:32

Also worth noting lots of zionists don’t believe in a God and yet believe God gave them the land. Contradiction is something else.

I find people who use religion as a means of oppressing and hurting others don't actually believe in God at all even the ones who say they do. because anyone truly believing in a Being who Created all life should not be able to take life so willingly

Toxicinlawz · 16/05/2024 19:32

Comedycook · 16/05/2024 18:18

No essentially I was not saying that at all.

Maybe that's not what you meant but that's the message that gets planted. I don't support the Palestinians with a view of not supporting the Israeli civilians. Both sides are suffering.

TakeMe2Insanity · 16/05/2024 19:32

therealcookiemonster · 16/05/2024 15:54

agreed.

I'm a religous Conservative Muslim and a lot of my social circle consists of very religous people of various backgrounds and faiths. I'm yet to meet someone of any religion who think that religous texts are a sane basis for determining who gets to live where.

and God stating a certain land will be inherited by a certain group of people doesn't mean He is telling them to go take it but rather its a prophecy of something that will happen. in the same way the outcomes of wars between the Persians v Romans was foretold in the Qur'an.

anyone who thinks theological texts should be the basis of laying claim to any kind of property or land needs to get their head checked.

Also worth noting lots of zionists don’t believe in a God and yet believe God gave them the land. Contradiction is something else.

OolongTeaDrinker · 16/05/2024 18:48

Lulooo · 16/05/2024 18:22

You don’t need personal ties to a country to feel outrage at the mindless killings of 40,000 civilians. You just need humanity.

Argggh I explained in a subsequent post - you like another poster have misunderstood what I am saying - my point was in response to the OP in that people I know who have not said a peep online about other recent atrocities and genocides are now posting about the situation in Gaza multiple times per day - which would be understandable if they had ties to the region but they don’t, so why haven’t they been so fixated on other situations where lots of innocent people are being massacred? No amount of 🍉 emojis and ‘solidarity 👊’ is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the conflict.

LargeAmericano · 16/05/2024 18:45

trekking1 · 16/05/2024 18:33

You are putting words in my mouth, never said it doesn't bother me, I just don't understand what people think posting some generic "let's free Palestine" posts will achieve as if Middle East wars are ended with social media posts

They always try to put words in your mouth OP.

The words ‘Hamas must surrender immediately so Palestinians can stop being used as human sacrifices for an extremist religious ideology’ doesn’t come out of theirs though funnily enough.

Eieiom · 16/05/2024 18:42

Of course social media posts have an impact on awareness and perceptions, just like any other media type. Otherwise you wouldn't have governments or companies using them to sell policies/products.
Politicians are very aware of social media and use it to gain support on issues and also gauge public opinion too, this is nothing new.
Social activists use it to lobby and build connections and movements.
So I don't really get why people think it achieves nothing, when it's pretty evident that it can.
The support for Palestine is pretty vociferous because many governments are supporting Israel, and citizens are finding it difficult to reconcile that their country is supporting an action with the gargantuan level of casualties that it has had to date.
I also think that there is no clear endpoint for this military action by Israel, so people are justifiably fearing that it is meeting the criteria for genocide.

trekking1 · 16/05/2024 18:33

kirinm · 16/05/2024 13:40

You don't remember the support for Ukraine which is ongoing? People taking in Ukrainians? The government permitting access to Ukraines?

What is it about Palestinians being murdererd that doesn't bother you OP?

You are putting words in my mouth, never said it doesn't bother me, I just don't understand what people think posting some generic "let's free Palestine" posts will achieve as if Middle East wars are ended with social media posts

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Thebestwaytoscareatory · 16/05/2024 18:33

LargeAmericano · 16/05/2024 18:14

And in answer to the OP’s very legitimate question, it’s to whip up hatred against the ‘Zionist’s’ (otherwise known as Israelis who legally accepted a homeland from the governing authority after the defeat of the Ottoman NOT Palestinian empire) and the Jewish people in general.

Also worth pointing out that there was a pretty decent sized Jewish population living in that area for the entirity of the Ottoman empire (and before) and that the division of land when creating the state of Israel was, in part, based on the existence of these settlements.

Toxicinlawz · 16/05/2024 18:31

Comedycook · 16/05/2024 18:12

Turkish settlers in Northern Cyprus were given homes and land belonging to Greek Cypriots who were forced out. These issues are not unique to Palestinians.

land belonging to theTurks was also given away to the greeks. Everything that one side suffered so did the other so tell a full story not half just to create a narrative to suit you. The war in Cyprus once again due to the governments and the British government (there's a surprise) of course the land was traded off the two sides separated 🙄

MsLuxLisbon · 16/05/2024 18:26

Lulooo · 16/05/2024 18:22

You don’t need personal ties to a country to feel outrage at the mindless killings of 40,000 civilians. You just need humanity.

Why start with Palestine, though? There are horrible wars all over the world, why are people fixating on this one?

Comedycook · 16/05/2024 18:23

Lulooo · 16/05/2024 18:22

You don’t need personal ties to a country to feel outrage at the mindless killings of 40,000 civilians. You just need humanity.

No one thinks the death of civilians is ok...or do you think those people who don't endlessly post their displeasure on social media are secretly thrilled when they hear a child has been killed?

LargeAmericano · 16/05/2024 18:23

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How on earth does that compare with Arafat?

Lulooo · 16/05/2024 18:22

OolongTeaDrinker · 15/05/2024 23:12

I’ve noticed a couple of friends, having not really ever posted anything political on social media have become absolutely fixated on the Palestine situation, posting multiple times per day. They don’t have any personal ties to Palestine so I have no idea why they have currently devoted their time to this and have never mentioned any other atrocities. I do wonder what all the 🍉 emojis and posts of ‘solidarity 👊’ are actually supposed to achieve OP so I do get what you are saying!

You don’t need personal ties to a country to feel outrage at the mindless killings of 40,000 civilians. You just need humanity.

ShyPoet · 16/05/2024 18:19

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Comedycook · 16/05/2024 18:18

Toxicinlawz · 16/05/2024 18:17

You are essentially saying that the Israeli government can kill as many children/civilians as they want and if anyone says stop its anti semitic? A reasonable person accepts that the level of civilian deaths in gaza is not acceptable.

No essentially I was not saying that at all.

Toxicinlawz · 16/05/2024 18:17

Comedycook · 16/05/2024 17:54

I've always said and I still believe that if what was happening to Gaza was being done by another Muslim country, no one would care, or very few would care.

Whether it's conscious or sub conscious I think a huge amount of the pro Palestinian movement is motivated by anti semitism. Goodies and baddies to them. It's like a football match..pick a side.

You are essentially saying that the Israeli government can kill as many children/civilians as they want and if anyone says stop its anti semitic? A reasonable person accepts that the level of civilian deaths in gaza is not acceptable.

LargeAmericano · 16/05/2024 18:14

And in answer to the OP’s very legitimate question, it’s to whip up hatred against the ‘Zionist’s’ (otherwise known as Israelis who legally accepted a homeland from the governing authority after the defeat of the Ottoman NOT Palestinian empire) and the Jewish people in general.

Comedycook · 16/05/2024 18:12

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Turkish settlers in Northern Cyprus were given homes and land belonging to Greek Cypriots who were forced out. These issues are not unique to Palestinians.

MsLuxLisbon · 16/05/2024 18:11

I agree, it is absolutely nonsensical. I got very tired of all the whinging about the Met Gala, as well. These people are celebrities, not politicians. They have nothing to do with what's happening in Gaza or anywhere else. Also, as you say, why stop at Gaza? Why do anything apart from raise awareness of various injustices? Virtue signalling at its dumbest.

ShyPoet · 16/05/2024 18:09

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Yep. Obviously watching people suffer is horrible...no one denies that. Unfortunately the world is full of conflict. Many people across the world are displaced. New borders are drawn up all around the world. So much focus on this one leads me to one conclusion.

LargeAmericano · 16/05/2024 18:07

TakeMe2Insanity · 16/05/2024 17:56

And the Palestinians (admittedly older now) born pre Israel are they just forgotten? Was it not their land?

Ah but the ‘father’ of the Palestinians was born in Cairo. His father fought for 25 years in court to try to gain family land in Egypt as his inheritance.

Just saying.

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