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To ask what on earth do people who post about Palestine expect to happen?

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trekking1 · 15/05/2024 22:53

It seems that every time I log into social media there are so people constantly posting about how we need to free Palestine and condemning everyone who ignores their posts.

May I ask what do they expect posting about it will actually accomplish? Did I miss something and wars can be stopped with SM posts? If so, why are they not posting the same about Ukraine? There is still a war going on there...

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stormy4319trevor · 16/05/2024 00:05

The deaths and wounding of children and innocents are unprecedented, the population trapped, and aid is not getting to them. I think many post in shock and disbelief that it is allowed to happen with no end in sight.

GenerationP · 16/05/2024 00:00

Honestly? It’s a case of “How can I make a highly complex geopolitical situation all about ME. See how righteous I am, blah, blah, blah”.

It’s performative narcissism that is so crude and disrespectful to Palestinians and Israelis alike, those type of posters should be ashamed of themselves (but they won’t be)…

So let me just say now to all those posters that gnash their teeth and wring their hands over Israel’s foreign policy:

If you never posted or protested about the dead civilians in Syria, if you didn't post or protest about the dead civilians in Yemen, if you didn't post or protest about the women of Iran, if you didn't post or protest about the Uyghurs or Sudanese or Nigerians or Afghans or Rohingya, if you didn't post or protest about the Israelis butchered, raped, tortured, burned and kidnapped, but somehow your supposed morality was triggered in the wake of Israel's response to Hamas savagery, you are an antisemite and a fraud and you can GFY.

Simply OP it’s literally ‘No Jews No News’ for these people.

greenlettuce · 15/05/2024 23:55

I think many have simplified the debate - this polarisation denies the fact that this is a complex issue. The marches in London vilify Israel to the point they are seen as the cause, Israel was the victim on 7th October. To establish peace there needs to be discussion and agreement.

SiennaSienna · 15/05/2024 23:55

What would you like people to do OP? Ignore the horrific news and video footage of the carnage and look away? What’s happening to civilians in Gaza is not comparable to Ukraine. It’s being described as one of the most destructive wars in modern history.

Nctodayjan24 · 15/05/2024 23:50

OolongTeaDrinker · 15/05/2024 23:30

You have completely misunderstood what I am saying. I said I didn’t know why they were fixated on Palestine when they have never commented on any other atrocities before.which would be understandable if they have personal ties there, but my point was why do they care more about this war than other past and ongoing conflicts.

Because this is the first genocide we are watching on our phones . Look at the posts from doctors working in hospitals in Gaza speaking of the horrors . Look at the images of the children on TikTok, they are given names and stories. This is not something we have had access to on the same scale in other conflicts.

Nctodayjan24 · 15/05/2024 23:45

Because as a pp said what is being fed by the media has a heavy agenda .
Look at the Daily Mail website (yes its scum but to dismiss it would be dangerous based on the amount of views it receives) This website blatantly ignores the atrocities and murders but wil highlight any antisemitic incidences that occur . Obviously these should also be reported on but not as the only issue regarding the ongoing attacks . If this is your only source of information your going to have a very skewed and biased view
Hilary Clinton recently mocked young people for not understanding the Middle East and their passion for the cause, however it appears that through social media posts , sharing images , events and stories from the front line they are the most in tune and switched on generation.
And finally there are 14000 children who won't grow up due to the atrocities of the past few months. Gaza has a population of half of Ireland and to think that since October proportionally the equivalent of 28000 Irish children could have died here is beyond belief..

We should be all shouting more not less

TheOtherBennetGirl · 15/05/2024 23:42

ConnieCounter · 15/05/2024 23:33

Awareness, solidarity.

Israel won't allow foreign journalists into Gaza to report and they've murdered over a hundred local journalists in Gaza so social media is important in this conflict.

Personally I think that talking about an ongoing genocide is important, online and offline.

This. History shows us that when we stop talking about atrocities, it becomes all too easy for people to deny they ever happened. Sometimes there is nothing we can do except call out what we're seeing and hearing. I would much rather be told off for loudly bearing witness than to teach my children they should only speak up when they're able to act.

ConnieCounter · 15/05/2024 23:33

Awareness, solidarity.

Israel won't allow foreign journalists into Gaza to report and they've murdered over a hundred local journalists in Gaza so social media is important in this conflict.

Personally I think that talking about an ongoing genocide is important, online and offline.

OolongTeaDrinker · 15/05/2024 23:31

MoonLightWhisper · 15/05/2024 23:28

Maybe they just don't like seeing over 30'000 people getting killed by constant bombing and shot at by soldiers! 🤷

See my comment above - you have misunderstood what I was saying.

OolongTeaDrinker · 15/05/2024 23:30

Opine · 15/05/2024 23:21

@OolongTeaDrinker Do you need ties to Palestine to not be outraged and repulsed by the sight of toddlers missing half their heads? Mothers screaming over the bodies of their dead children. ALL of them gone in one day?
is there a particular radius for which your sympathy reaches? 30 miles? 100?

You have completely misunderstood what I am saying. I said I didn’t know why they were fixated on Palestine when they have never commented on any other atrocities before.which would be understandable if they have personal ties there, but my point was why do they care more about this war than other past and ongoing conflicts.

Alwaysgothiccups · 15/05/2024 23:30

Just posting is one thing.. and understandable..
Berating others is another.. and does get on my nerves tbh.
I have one particular friend who posts every day multiple times about it.. fair enough... but she also constantly tries to wind people up and provoke arguments.. and she berates anyone who isn't also posting about it multiple times a day..
Whilst I agree with alot of what she posts she does post some genuinely anti semitic shite too
She also is single, childless and has no job at the moment. I don't get involved because I know she's desperate for arguments but I do want to tell her that she is able to devote all this passion to it because she doesn't actually have a lot going on personally... whereas other people are fkn tired.. and going thru God knows what. It's like she can have empathy for the dead children in Gaza (which is understandable) but the empathy ends there...
I've recently given birth for example amd am on two types of medication for postnatal depression and anxiety...I'm absolutely not going to be plastering my social media with pictures of dead and injured children. It's not that I do not care. Or that I support what the IDF or Hammas are doing.. but I need to keep it together in my own life.
If it actually achieved anything to rant on social media I might make more of an effort. But as it stands I'd just be preaching to the converted... yet she thinks I should be saying something?
What is there to bloody say? I feel so deeply sorry for those people. But nothing I say on Facebook is going to stop the Israeli government is it?
I try to to always vote left wing.. I try to uphold my principles of kindness and collectivism.. I teach my children this.
You've got to try and lead by example and stuck to your values.
Bullying people because they aren't shouting about the cause you personally feel they should be achieves literally nothing. People are allowed to care about many things and express that in different ways.. they are also allowed to protect themselves from despair when they need to.

trekking1 · 15/05/2024 23:30

drusth · 15/05/2024 23:28

This.

It’s great that so many people are standing up to injustice.

If this was a cause that OP supported she’d be singing a very different tune.

Oh, jog on. There is not a single war I ever supported in my life.

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Opine · 15/05/2024 23:30

@Scintella well the ‘solution’ will be that every Palestinian is dead and then Israel can take the Gaza Strip too. It’s almost like that was the plan all along.

Given that the big Hamas guys are apparently living in luxury elsewhere how does Israel expect they are wiping them out? This isn’t about Hamas is it. Quite obviously.

drusth · 15/05/2024 23:28

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This.

It’s great that so many people are standing up to injustice.

If this was a cause that OP supported she’d be singing a very different tune.

MoonLightWhisper · 15/05/2024 23:28

OolongTeaDrinker · 15/05/2024 23:12

I’ve noticed a couple of friends, having not really ever posted anything political on social media have become absolutely fixated on the Palestine situation, posting multiple times per day. They don’t have any personal ties to Palestine so I have no idea why they have currently devoted their time to this and have never mentioned any other atrocities. I do wonder what all the 🍉 emojis and posts of ‘solidarity 👊’ are actually supposed to achieve OP so I do get what you are saying!

Maybe they just don't like seeing over 30'000 people getting killed by constant bombing and shot at by soldiers! 🤷

GreenFairies · 15/05/2024 23:27

trekking1 · 15/05/2024 23:23

My question is not why do people post about it, but what they expect to achieve by posting "let's free Palestine" as if we have the power to do that by posting on social media. You are being deliberately obtuse

The end of apartheid of South Africa started small. Awareness, especially via social media, is a powerful tool.

QueenOfHiraeth · 15/05/2024 23:26

The problem, for me, is that we need this terrible situation in Gaza to end but should not endorse any action that allows Hamas to continue to do terrible things which they have already promised they will.

Most of the people posting Free Palestine and similar have not thought of the history and politics of the area or of the fact their demands would destroy the only democracy in the Middle East and hand power to extremists who will brutalise and kill their own people as well as their enemies.

Scintella · 15/05/2024 23:26

But no one follows up with what will happen when the shooting stops .
What do people suggest Israelis do - as Hamas are determined to have no Israel- what should happen next. What do you think must happen next to solve this .
i don’t see any solution.

Opine · 15/05/2024 23:24

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trekking1 · 15/05/2024 23:23

ssd · 15/05/2024 23:22

And ask why people are even bothering to post about mass slaughter on socialmedia, like the op is asking....

Funnily enough mass slaughter still angers and infuriates those of us who care op.

My question is not why do people post about it, but what they expect to achieve by posting "let's free Palestine" as if we have the power to do that by posting on social media. You are being deliberately obtuse

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Opine · 15/05/2024 23:15

The news isn’t reporting what they should so sm will give you a good look at what’s really going on.
Once you’ve watched months of stomach turning war crimes happen in real time it should impact the way you function as a human being. It should make you do whatever you can. No matter how small. Write to your MP, attend rallies, boycott etc.

That’s decent people though. Others will just sneer and shrug their shoulders.

And ask why people are even bothering to post about mass slaughter on socialmedia, like the op is asking....

Funnily enough mass slaughter still angers and infuriates those of us who care op.

Opine · 15/05/2024 23:21

@OolongTeaDrinker Do you need ties to Palestine to not be outraged and repulsed by the sight of toddlers missing half their heads? Mothers screaming over the bodies of their dead children. ALL of them gone in one day?
is there a particular radius for which your sympathy reaches? 30 miles? 100?

walkthroughtulips · 15/05/2024 23:16

It’s quite performative. But it’s also keeping it relevant I guess.

Opine · 15/05/2024 23:15

The news isn’t reporting what they should so sm will give you a good look at what’s really going on.
Once you’ve watched months of stomach turning war crimes happen in real time it should impact the way you function as a human being. It should make you do whatever you can. No matter how small. Write to your MP, attend rallies, boycott etc.

That’s decent people though. Others will just sneer and shrug their shoulders.

trekking1 · 15/05/2024 23:14

echt · 15/05/2024 23:13

No longer engaging with one who can't read.

Good luck going through life not engaging with yourself then

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