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All men cheat

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laviniamarie · 15/05/2024 09:29

I was having a coffee with a friend this morning she's literally just left and I can't get my head round what she's said, we were talking about our lives and husbands and shes let it slip her dh had an affair several years ago and she thinks he's at it again.

I never had any words of advice as my own dh would never do such a thing and I was quite shocked to hear her say that "every man would cheat given an opportunity" apparently she thinks that of he thinks he will never be caught he will do it.

What are your thoughts on this? To me it's utter bullshit, I have been married 6 years and my husbands whole world revolves around me and our children. He's a genuinely lovely human being and I don't think he would ever cheat but according to my friend he would if he thought he'd never be caught.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/05/2024 13:55

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/05/2024 09:33

It makes her feel better to think she can’t expect better because all men are the same, rather than facing the fact hers is a duff specimen. That’s sad for her and no reflection on your marriage.

Agree

DreadPirateRobots · 15/05/2024 13:53

Research suggests that, given equal opportunity, men and women cheat equally. The differentiator is really that women are more likely to be weighed down with caring responsibilities and/or financially dependent and thus have less opportunity.

I think that, like most things with humans, behaviour is complicated. Given the right stimulus and opportunity, the vast majority of humans are at least capable of cheating. Some have a lower threshold than others.

NonPlayerCharacter · 15/05/2024 13:52

HereComesTheYellowTrain · 15/05/2024 13:25

I always used to say that my partner of well over 10 years would never cheat, he was the kindest, most mild mannered man you could ever meet. Would be the first to offer to go shopping for elderly neighbours, was loving, gentle etc. 10 years and a baby on....and he cheated.

Obviously this is only my personal experience, but I don't always think there's a type.

Edited

There does persist this impression that a kind, mild-mannered person somehow can't possibly succumb to sexual temptation - which itself exists in many forms.

I'm very sorry that happened to you.

NonPlayerCharacter · 15/05/2024 13:50

OneTC · 15/05/2024 13:48

I reckon most people are ultimately self serving enough that there's an offer out there good enough to swing anyone, it's just that most people would probably never get that offer

I don't know...if there's one person prepared to sleep with and spend time with you, no reason to imagine there couldn't possibly be any others.

OneTC · 15/05/2024 13:48

I reckon most people are ultimately self serving enough that there's an offer out there good enough to swing anyone, it's just that most people would probably never get that offer

Temushopper · 15/05/2024 13:43

SpringerFall · 15/05/2024 12:57

No idea if my husband would cheat or not but as I haven't organised I would be extremely surprised

😂

GingerPirate · 15/05/2024 13:42

If I may....my opinion may be unpopular.
My husband is three decades older and we have been married for 20 years. No cheating whatsoever on his side.
But here comes the however: I personally never felt I wanted to stay "intimate" with one and only person through my productive age, regardless of how old they are.
So from this point of view, I kinda understand these men, not mentioning morality and duties towards family.
We are all human beings with relatively short lives.
Yes, personally I don't condemn the urge to "cheat".

JaninaDuszejko · 15/05/2024 13:41

I think that people move in circles where either lots of people cheat or lots don't and so you assume your experience is normal. For example, I know people who work in some professions or industries say there's loads of affairs at work. Whereas, I know of only one definite affair and a couple of creepy men at work but otherwise it's not common at all (and everyone was shocked at the affair and the man's boss was quite vocal about how unprofessional he thought it was). So the social structure at work is quite disapproving of affairs so there is not the opportunity that there might be in other workplaces.

Olivebrancholivia · 15/05/2024 13:40

Ooooh OP, I said the same to a friend, that my husband would never cheat, I trust him blah blah... Utterly smug about my marriage
Turns out he was cheating.
You never ever know

snakewillow · 15/05/2024 13:39

Not all men cheat, not all women cheat. However, I believe that in the right circumstances, with the opportunity presented at a particular time that more would cheat than you think, including some that you would never expect. I think it's very naive to think that someone never would under any circumstances at any point in their life.

SlothsNeverGetIll · 15/05/2024 13:38

ginasevern · 15/05/2024 13:27

I was married for 26 years and I also knew my husband inside and out. We had a lovely, strong marriage and were each other's best friends. He was very much a "bloke's bloke" and interested in cars, real ale and growing vegetables. He wouldn't even know how to flirt with a woman even if he wanted to. I was a hundred trillion, gazillion per cent certain he would never cheat. Actually it never even crossed my mind, not even remotely.

Then I discovered him talking to someone online. He'd been meeting her when he went away to work. That day my world fell apart. Everything I thought was real suddenly wasn't. My knees gave way and I passed out on the kitchen floor. To be honest I'm amazed the shock and pain of it all didn't kill me.

How awful for you.
It doesn't diminish my confidence in my own relationship though.

AllAtSeaAgain · 15/05/2024 13:35

It's a load of bollocks. I hate this 'all men' crap. How offensive it would be to say, 'All women nag,' or 'All women are materialistic'.

Men and women are individual human beings. Some of them are decent, with decent moral standards. Some of them are not.

She's deluding herself if she thinks 'he can't help cheating because he has a penis'.

stayathomer · 15/05/2024 13:32

Whatever you think let her say whatever she wants in relation to it. I’ve had two different boyfriends cheat on me years and years ago, both you would have expected it from tbh😅Personally I’d think the percentage to be lower than most people think but it’s not something you can argue with a lot of women as they have had bad experiences

ginasevern · 15/05/2024 13:32

Porageeater · 15/05/2024 13:29

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

Thanks @Porageeater

Porageeater · 15/05/2024 13:29

ginasevern · 15/05/2024 13:27

I was married for 26 years and I also knew my husband inside and out. We had a lovely, strong marriage and were each other's best friends. He was very much a "bloke's bloke" and interested in cars, real ale and growing vegetables. He wouldn't even know how to flirt with a woman even if he wanted to. I was a hundred trillion, gazillion per cent certain he would never cheat. Actually it never even crossed my mind, not even remotely.

Then I discovered him talking to someone online. He'd been meeting her when he went away to work. That day my world fell apart. Everything I thought was real suddenly wasn't. My knees gave way and I passed out on the kitchen floor. To be honest I'm amazed the shock and pain of it all didn't kill me.

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

ginasevern · 15/05/2024 13:27

SlothsNeverGetIll · 15/05/2024 12:48

Total bullshit.
And no, I'm not in denial.
I've been with DH for 20 years and know him inside out and he would not cheat. And he does get the opportunity as he works away from home.

I was married for 26 years and I also knew my husband inside and out. We had a lovely, strong marriage and were each other's best friends. He was very much a "bloke's bloke" and interested in cars, real ale and growing vegetables. He wouldn't even know how to flirt with a woman even if he wanted to. I was a hundred trillion, gazillion per cent certain he would never cheat. Actually it never even crossed my mind, not even remotely.

Then I discovered him talking to someone online. He'd been meeting her when he went away to work. That day my world fell apart. Everything I thought was real suddenly wasn't. My knees gave way and I passed out on the kitchen floor. To be honest I'm amazed the shock and pain of it all didn't kill me.

Neverdo · 15/05/2024 13:26

I don't thinkbits given that all men will cheat, but I think everyone, men and women, will cheat given the right set of circumstances. What they are will be different for everyone for some it will be because they can, for others it will take a lot more.

For example, a situation where someone offers a listening ear at a time when you're under intense pressure at work, partner is distracted with issues of their own, the relaionship is a having a shaky patch, a shared interest, a feeling that someone "gets" you, then add in some alcohol...no-one will ever know, this is kinder than breaking her heart and telling her I want someone else....

HereComesTheYellowTrain · 15/05/2024 13:25

I always used to say that my partner of well over 10 years would never cheat, he was the kindest, most mild mannered man you could ever meet. Would be the first to offer to go shopping for elderly neighbours, was loving, gentle etc. 10 years and a baby on....and he cheated.

Obviously this is only my personal experience, but I don't always think there's a type.

OneTC · 15/05/2024 13:24

It's impossible to know the mind of another, you can take very educated guesses but you can't know

Simonjt · 15/05/2024 13:22

I wouldn’t do it, the idea of a one night stand or having sex with someone I’m not in a relationship with doesn’t appeal to me in the slighest.

Is it not true that the majority of relationships experience cheating, but is that having sex with someone else, or is it also kissing, emotional affairs etc.

TuesdayWhistler · 15/05/2024 13:20

Not all men cheat.
Not all women cheat.
But a lot of people cheat.

I have ZERO tolerance for it personally.
Happens once, you're gone forever.

StMarieforme · 15/05/2024 13:20

My husband did, and it wrought devastation on our family. One of the many reasons that I 100% know that my sons, all in their 30s, would not.

whosaidtha · 15/05/2024 13:19

DinnaeFashYersel · 15/05/2024 12:59

The majority don't cheat.

I'm not sure that's true. Anecdotally I think a lot do. Especially if you'd count a drunk kiss a cheating. And if you count partners as well as husbands I'd bet it's over 50%

BigMandyHarris · 15/05/2024 13:19

I think your friend is correct and you are very naive

WaltzingWaters · 15/05/2024 13:18

Of course not all men cheat. Many arseholes do. But there are plenty that would never dream of it.
Shes trying to make herself feel better by saying this.