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Should I report to 101, stranger and my baby

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Bramblecrumble22 · 15/05/2024 09:21

I feel a bit shaken after an interaction. After the school run, I was putting my baby in the car seat and someone tapped my shoulder. I turned with baby in my arms and she said 'baby' and touched him, and but her hand near his armipit. She was stood very close and it felt like when you pass a baby over. I said 'what are you doing.' quite aggressively and she said 'no, no, I like babies' and squeezed his cheek then walked off quickly. I mean she could be lonely and love babies and want to innocently interact with them. She didn't speak much English either. But I just felt really uncomfortable. She wasn't as old as the ladies that often coo over him in the shops, so maybe that why i felt threatened. So aibu she just wanted to see and smile at a baby, very innocent and a cultural misunderstanding, or ainbu report to police in case it builds up a bigger picture and she will go on to kidnap.

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viques · 19/05/2024 08:53

saraclara · 19/05/2024 00:30

Because she's foreign?

No, because pickpocketing, using distraction , is a common crime. Kidnapping babies isn’t.

It is called statistics.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 19/05/2024 07:51

In response to your questions.

Yes it could be a cultural thing. My SE Asian extended family (by marriage) are much more touchy feely and hands on with kids than the British ones. They make for fab grandparents ! When we were travelling around SE Asia my blonde white DC were quite popular with the locals, touching their hair for example. It was considered good luck.

If you knew it was a cultural thing then would you feel as uncomfortable with the interaction? If not, no need to report. If despite that it felt really beyond a normal interaction then by all means report. Don't expect much to come out of it though

SoupChicken · 19/05/2024 07:41

When my first baby was small we were in the park and she was on a blanket and 2 men came over who didn’t speak English and tried to take photos of her, I felt really uncomfortable about it so I reported it to 101, not as in a crime had been committed but just in case they did go on to do something then the police would have the information to build up a picture of their behaviour, the man on 101 said I’d done the right thing.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 19/05/2024 07:36

Eggmoobean · 15/05/2024 17:24

Report this via 101. This is not ok. Sounds like she was sounding you out , to see if you would hand baby over. I don’t like this. Your feelings are accurate on this - it’s not ok.

To see if she would hand her baby over for what? The woman to then walk off with the child?

Is that a common occurrence where you live, are trainee baby snatchers sent out on the streets to see how many they can snaffle in a day?

thecatsthecats · 19/05/2024 07:13

Hmm. On the "building a bigger picture" but YANBU, because there's usually plenty of warning signs that, if you add them up, would result in a pretty accurate picture of potential crime. OTOH, if they were all reported the police would do nothing else, it's a task for AI.

But I doubt it was sinister. There are many people out there, mostly women, who are just obsessed by babies. There's a woman who had a late miscarriage in my gym who comes after baby swim classes. She coos over all.the babies, tells her sad story over and over and shows you unasked for pictures of her niblings.

I do let her hold my son and have him pull someone else's hair for once while I change. In a less contained environment I might think it more risky, but as it is I just feel sorry for her.

Luio · 19/05/2024 06:58

Why on earth would you report it? She is just a bit weird. She didn’t commit any crime. What are the police meant to do with that information? Some random woman came up and interacted with you in the streets. Where would they file away that bit of info? Under non events carried out by nameless people who did nothing wrong?

saraclara · 19/05/2024 00:30

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

Because she's foreign?

Alizzle · 19/05/2024 00:21

Bramblecrumble22 · 15/05/2024 09:21

I feel a bit shaken after an interaction. After the school run, I was putting my baby in the car seat and someone tapped my shoulder. I turned with baby in my arms and she said 'baby' and touched him, and but her hand near his armipit. She was stood very close and it felt like when you pass a baby over. I said 'what are you doing.' quite aggressively and she said 'no, no, I like babies' and squeezed his cheek then walked off quickly. I mean she could be lonely and love babies and want to innocently interact with them. She didn't speak much English either. But I just felt really uncomfortable. She wasn't as old as the ladies that often coo over him in the shops, so maybe that why i felt threatened. So aibu she just wanted to see and smile at a baby, very innocent and a cultural misunderstanding, or ainbu report to police in case it builds up a bigger picture and she will go on to kidnap.

You are a mum, if someone makes you uncomfortable, sets off alarms listen. It's mummy radar. I would report. If nothing came of it no harm done.

CurlewKate · 16/05/2024 20:52

At least she wasn't.....gasp.....old!

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 16/05/2024 18:50

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 16/05/2024 14:00

Do the police take "just for info" reports?

Edited

I just mean you can ring for advice. If you're genuinely concerned about someone's behaviour you can call them.

I don't think I'd report what happened in the op, personally.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 16/05/2024 14:00

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 15/05/2024 09:35

There are a lot of people in the world, this can't be the first time you've seen someone behave slightly differently to how you would?

I understand you felt vulnerable, if you did report to the police you should make it clear it's a 'just for info' report rather than a crime report.

Do the police take "just for info" reports?

SnoqualmieRiver · 15/05/2024 19:43

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

This 100 %

Cuwins · 15/05/2024 19:29

My first thought was could she have some sort of additional needs meaning she doesn't have the same personal space boundaries as the majority do?

Frangipanyoul8r · 15/05/2024 19:17

This reminds me of the time I was breastfeeding my baby sat in my car and a stranger put their head right up to the open window and said “aw baby’s having their lunch”. It was very weird and spooked me but that’s London for you 🤷‍♀️😆

Noname1000 · 15/05/2024 19:07

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/05/2024 12:44

The notorious Eastern European looking men driving vans aka Evri drivers.

Can you put it on share, hun.

viques · 15/05/2024 18:48

MadKittenWoman · 15/05/2024 18:47

Really?!

Yes. Pickpocketing is a much more common crime than kidnapping small babies.Smile

MadKittenWoman · 15/05/2024 18:47

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

Really?!

heartsinvisiblefury · 15/05/2024 18:46

Sorry stop thinking of wasting police time that should have said

heartsinvisiblefury · 15/05/2024 18:46

Stop wasting police time OP

TicTac80 · 15/05/2024 18:44

OP, I don't know if this will help at all....

I'm from the ME originally, and it is very common there (and in a lot of Mediterranean , Asian and North African countries/cultures too). A person would say something lovely about a baby/child (or just see a baby/child), followed by "mashallah" (this means "God wills it") or "tabarakallah" ("Gods blessings"), often cheek or bottom slightly pinched. We (I'm Christian) might also cross ourselves and point first two fingers at the person. This sort of thing is also done if something good happens to someone - you comment on the good thing (e.g. "well done, you passed the test/bought the house/got engaged/the job you wanted etc"), and then say mashallah or tabarakallah. This will sound absolutely nuts to many, but it's to ward off the (curse of the) evil eye (we call this "aina bishta"....IIRC it's "al-ain" in Arabic). From where I'm from, this is a thing in both Christian and Muslim communities. I believe something similar is also in Jewish communities.

I may be wrong, but I wonder if this incident is the same thing, particularly as OP mentioned that the lady might not have been from UK. Having said all that, I understand that it could be very unsettling/weird if it is not something you've encountered before! I've lived here long enough to know that this definitely isn't a "thing" in the UK, so I wouldn't do it (unless I know the baby's family is from my part of the world) - I would instead say something lovely about the baby and then say "bless him/her".

It's like a superstition to prevent bad luck, bad fortune or injury.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 15/05/2024 18:24

She probably has SEN.
Non issue. Don't bother reporting to the police.

Sapphire387 · 15/05/2024 17:42

OP, do you have much experience of interacting with people from other cultures, specifically around your baby? If it felt like 'more' than that, then report it. From how you have written it, it doesn't come across as a police matter, but only you were there, not us.

FuckTheClubUp · 15/05/2024 17:31

Mostlyoblivious · 15/05/2024 14:16

Oh that first line made me roar

Living in South London is basically the real life version of The Hunger Games, especially SW London🫣

slore · 15/05/2024 17:27

Wow. YABVVU. She's just an awkward foreigner trying to interact with a baby! No crime was committed.

If you reported it, I'd worry you'd be accused of wasting police time, or even racism.

Boomer55 · 15/05/2024 17:27

Very South London. Nothing worth reporting. 🤷‍♀️

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