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to turn supermarket delivery away when they ring on my door bell two hours early?

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BasilParsley · 14/05/2024 21:10

Sort(ish) question: If the supermarket delivery driver turns up at 9am rather than 11am because he's delivering across the road anyway (with no phone call to ask if I could accept an early delivery which is usual) would I be unreasonable to tell him to go away and come back later?

(Long background) It's played on my mind all week so could do with some advice please.

There is a v. small care home opposite my house that also gets the same supermarket to deliver, generally on the same day, but at different times (sometimes around the same time, sometimes earlier, sometimes later).

The reason I order a slot later in the morning is that I have a reasonably severe disability that means it takes me a while to get going in the morning e.g. the ablutions and the getting dressed, breakfasting etc.

Due to the fact that my disability makes me more prone to infections like covid and it takes a lot longer for me put stuff away , I always ask the driver to unload the crates into bags I supply in my porch. I then take my time, decanting those bags into the kitchen cupboards/fridge/freezer etc.

Driver last week clearly had a 9am-ish delivery at the home across the road so rang on my doorbell around that time. I was still in my dressing gown (and wrapped in a towel underneath because I was drip-drying having not long got out of the bath).

I told him he was too early but maybe he could give me five minutes to get dressed then I can accept the delivery. He said yes I'm early, but I've just delivered over the road so if you get your bags, I'll put your order in them and put them in the porch so I won't need to come back.

I felt so coerced (and still bleary-eyed and getting to grips with the day), I went and hid in my skanky dressing gown in the living room for a bit until I heard him call from the porch that it was all done. Got to the porch and the outer porch door is wide open and the bags are all preventing it from being closed.

So I had to deal with it then and there until I was able to close the outer door which left me in a bit of a state for while.

What would you have done?

OP posts:
Lemonyyy · 15/05/2024 14:17

Drives me bonkers, I've stopped using Asda because of it (and I don't even have a disability, just book my slots for when it works for me!) I don't think you're unreasonable at all OP.

I remember once coming back from the school run to see the Asda van driving off despite it not being booked for nearly another hour. He tried to refuse to come back to deliver and I had to spend a lot of the next hour on the phone for Asda to concede and let me have my shopping at the end of his delivery round, so once again not at the time I'd booked. They are absolutely useless.

tara66 · 15/05/2024 14:07

When I was going to order a day or 3 ago from Ocado all their slots were £6.99 very expensive!

badatdecisions · 15/05/2024 14:00

SabreIsMyFave · 14/05/2024 21:18

If you have a slot, it is annoying and daft for them to come 2 hours early for their convenience. What if you're not in?! I would complain @BasilParsley

I do it on purpose. Ocado delivery is £5.99 for the time I actually want it, so I book the 10pm 99p delivery slot and they come 2 hours early every time. Saves me £20 a month.

They do call and ask though tbf, which didn't happen in this situation.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/05/2024 14:00

Spirallingdownwards · 15/05/2024 11:46

I would have let them in. I frequently answer the door, take supermarket and other deliveries in my dressing gown.

Do you have a disability and shortness of breath, @Spirallingdownwards? Because @BasilParsley does, and she has explained why this makes it so much harder for her to just accept the early delivery.

Cornishclio · 15/05/2024 13:44

Well I would have accepted it but I am not severely disabled so totally get why you were put out. If this happens often then I would consider moving to afternoon deliveries as your order would not even be on the van in the morning. Hopefully it is just a one off though.

Gettoachiro · 15/05/2024 13:30

You are not being unreasonable.

As a supermarket delivery driver, I always ring first to see if a customer would be happy to have their shopping earlier. Lots of people don't answer the phone unfortunately (unknown number I assume) and in those cases I'd knock just to see, but always more than happy to return during the time slot if it isn't convenient.

If you put a note on your order asking for no early deliveries, the driver will definitely see it, Tesco use the same system as my company. It will be on her/his hand held device and on the paperwork they should have with them.

There is a lot of waiting around reading in the job!

tattygrl · 15/05/2024 13:23

eatsleepfarmrepeat · 14/05/2024 22:08

Oh FFS you’re in a dressing gown with wet hair, is it really such a deliberation? The guy is delivering next door, of course it’s sensible to just accept it whilst you’re in the house, albeit in a dressing gown.

I went and caught up 20 escaped ewes in wellies and a bathrobe this morning and it wasn’t really on my pre7am itinerary.

it really is a pandemic that we cannot be in any way inconvenienced by other people.

Oooh aren't you 'ard. OP has specific health and disability needs and she's set her life up to independently accommodate them. Commendable, in my opinion. But not in yours, presumably, because she's not living the rugged country life, wrangling animals at all hours?

Moier · 15/05/2024 13:22

I'm exactly the same.. severe disability.. luckily l only use sainsburys and they are excellent.. the driver always brings the crates into my kitchen and unloads them onto my kitchen counter for me. Always at the correct time.
You need to send an e mail to the supermarket.
I wouldn't have answered.

FrogTheWarrior · 15/05/2024 13:16

BasilParsley · 14/05/2024 22:02

JFC I was not bored, I was struggling with mobility and breathing at that time of the morning due to a chronic health condition. Which is why I always order for late in the morning.

I felt coerced because I was not expecting him at that time, I was struggling with my breathing and didn't have the strength to argue. He refused to wait five minutes while I got dressed.... So coerced me into getting the bags for him to put the shopping in then dumped and ran. Absolutely no customer service/consideration whatsoever.

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“Coerced” 🙄

Scarlettpixie · 15/05/2024 13:11

I use Tesco and most drivers seem to phone ahead if they are more than 20 mins early (most not all). I always thank them for phoning ahead as I much prefer not being surprised. I always book the 11-12 slot. I would be happy with the hour before but given their propensity to be early never book 10-11 as I don’t want them rocking up at 9.15! I like to have time to be up and ready and have my worktops cleared off before they arrive. Once that’s done I am happy to take an early delivery as it gets it out of the way. I bet one in 3 or 4 shops is early. Very rarely are they late. Maybe twice in 4 years. I haven’t done a ‘big shop’ in person since the start of lockdown.

I think the note asking to call first or not deliver early is your best bet OP but they don’t always read them I suspect and may just knock if in the same street. All you can do is say no sorry it’s not convenient and not feel bad about it. The annoying ones are those who don’t phone and unload before knocking. Makes you want to turn them away on principle!

I occasionally use other shops but Asda and Morrisons are often late and/or have missing items. Sainsburys are usually ok and arrive within the time stated. I use Asda once or twice a year. The others 3 or 4 times. The rest of the time I use Tesco.

godmum56 · 15/05/2024 13:03

I think Ocado try to organise by area if they can but its not always possible. I am in the south and have had deliveries where the previous one has been north London!

whynotwhatknot · 15/05/2024 13:01

my driver says it happens alot but they are always suppose to message/ring first
orders arent origanise into areas all over the place
ive only ever had one message saying theyre early i ont min but its not the point

BreakingAndBroke · 15/05/2024 12:40

Stay in the bath and don't answer the door. If you've answered the door already just say, "sorry, I need to get ready and go out, I don't have time to unload it all right now. Can you please come back at the agreed time?"

Everanewbie · 15/05/2024 12:37

godmum56 · 15/05/2024 12:28

yup and the flexibility I would like (and have received) has been about moving my delivery within my delivery slot. In that circumstance, they also kindly offered to return at some point later so long as they were still in the area. Ocado drivers alway offer to carry items in for me, even saying its okay to put them in more than one place (my freezer is in the garage) and that is part of their T and C's I wouldn't ask them to leave alcohol with a minor and would not be at all surprised to have that request refused. What I don't expect is stuff dumped on the doorstep if delivered early, rudeness, drivers expecting to be able to deliver early without asking and similar poor service. I have to say I have never exoerienced any of those things from the people I get deliveries from.

Can't say much fairer than that.

Loloj · 15/05/2024 12:34

You’ve booked the slot for when it is convenient for you. YANBU but just don’t answer the door next time.

Tiredalwaystired · 15/05/2024 12:33

Used to drive me mad when the kids were small. I deliberately ordered food for after they were in bed. When they turned up early it was invariably during bath time.

godmum56 · 15/05/2024 12:28

Everanewbie · 15/05/2024 11:10

That attitude is fine, until you want the delivery company to show you some flexibility. Maybe something comes up and you need a delivery to be pushed back, or have a broken arm and want the driver to help you in with something, or leave your delivery with your son/daughter who is 17 and not able to accept alcohol? These circumstances for OP meant that accepting the delivery earlier than planned messed up her routine that is crucial to her wellbeing, but hopefully people that are awkward for the sake of a momentary minor inconvenience are on receiving end of a lifetime of jobsworth-ery and are held strictly to T&Cs.

yup and the flexibility I would like (and have received) has been about moving my delivery within my delivery slot. In that circumstance, they also kindly offered to return at some point later so long as they were still in the area. Ocado drivers alway offer to carry items in for me, even saying its okay to put them in more than one place (my freezer is in the garage) and that is part of their T and C's I wouldn't ask them to leave alcohol with a minor and would not be at all surprised to have that request refused. What I don't expect is stuff dumped on the doorstep if delivered early, rudeness, drivers expecting to be able to deliver early without asking and similar poor service. I have to say I have never exoerienced any of those things from the people I get deliveries from.

hiredandsqueak · 15/05/2024 12:07

They always call if they are going to be early here. If I'm home I accept the delivery only once have I said no as I was out walking the dog so the driver waited until I got back (still before delivery was due) If possible I would accept largely because a bit of goodwill goes a long way in my experience.

PrincessTeaSet · 15/05/2024 12:04

Wishlist99 · 15/05/2024 07:49

I have a note on my account saying I won’t accept early deliveries (they’re timed so they arrive when housekeeper is here as I’m injured and struggle to unpack).

I don’t agree that a ring doorbell is “unethical”, however. Covertly filming someone, yes, but with the amount of CCTV in our society I don’t think a ring doorbell, clearly displayed, is unethical. (I sit on an ethics committee and I think my colleagues would agree!).

It's certainly an invasion of privacy for OP to record all of her neighbours comings and goings and all of their guests. I wouldn't like it. It's possibly illegal too. CCTV is only meant to cover your own property. A shared front door is not her own property.

Allofaflutter · 15/05/2024 12:02

happypickle · 15/05/2024 04:37

You sound like hard work, just take the delivery fgs.

No she doesn’t. If you are struggling to move and breathe and a service you pay for comes when you can cope with it that’s awful customer service. You on the other hand…..

Mrsredlipstick · 15/05/2024 11:52

When you are disabled it can take so much longer to get going in the morning.
I am currently unable to move unaided and feel very vulnerable. I wouldn't want to interact with anyone in my bathrobe. I would feel vulnerable to an attack.
I had a DPD driver hammer my door on Monday, shout up at my window and stand outside shouting waiting, waiting. He didn't use the bell or knocker, my door was hammered on with huge force. He's done it before and there's a ruddy great sticker saying disabled person lives here. I'm still livid. I told him to come back or leave the parcel. He just ignored me. Eventually my wfh DD put down her call and took the parcel in. His arrogance was disgusting. I use ocado and morrisons. Both on time and excellent.

Spirallingdownwards · 15/05/2024 11:46

I would have let them in. I frequently answer the door, take supermarket and other deliveries in my dressing gown.

fluffiphlox · 15/05/2024 11:41

I seem to be in the minority, I would have accepted it.

BoogieBoogieWoogie · 15/05/2024 11:38

Janjk · 15/05/2024 06:53

Why are so many people suggesting complaining? The delivery man asked the question and the OP could have said no. It seems sensible to me that he asked if she would like her delivery early as he was outside and it was loaded on his van.

I can't believe people get their knickers in a twist about perfectly reasonable situations.

Because they are supposed to call first to check - not just try their luck

Dartwarbler · 15/05/2024 11:28

BasilParsley · 14/05/2024 21:16

Yes, I realise now not answering the door is what I could have done. BUT, unless I curtain twitch, I can't see who's at the door and as the outer front door is a shared one, I feel it's unethical to install a ring type video thing.

Plus, in my defence, this situation has never happened before so I thought it might the postman or someone else. I never expected it to be the delivery driver...

Ring doorbell or equivalent with camera
i live on my own and retired- I choose who I’ll open door to. If I’m in towel, not presentable or not expecting and inconvenient time I’ll speak to them and say I’m out, or not respond at all
ive been known to not answer even to my closest friends because, sometimes, I just want to be undisturbed 🤷🏼‍♀️🤣

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