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Sexual assault during hotel stay

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Tripadvisornotloading · 14/05/2024 19:09

Myself and 3 friends booked a spa night at a popular hotel on the Wirral.
A drugged up strange man broke into one of the rooms during the night and got into a bed with one of the young ladies and sexually assaulted her, we were subsequently all traumatised and extremely upset. We were up with police most of the night giving statements, the doors on the rooms were different and one automatically locked, so we’ve assumed the other did - it didn’t as it wasn’t a fire door. We spent most of the time in the bigger room (with the fire door) getting ready etc as a group so had gotten used to the door slamming locked.
Anyway, during the night and next morning the reception assured us both rooms would be free of charge. We had already paid for lunch, dinner and drinks as and when purchasing. We spent a considerable amount in the short amount of time we were there.
Then as the lead guest on the booking I contacted the hotel the following Monday to ask guest relations to call me - I just wanted to clarify - as directed by reception staff - whether there was a key card used to enter the room or if the door was faulty, I didn’t put any information within the email; just that I would like management to give me a call.
I got a rude email back, not asking about the welfare of the assaulted party or other traumatised guests but demanding payment for the rooms - the ones we had been told were free of charge.
I then get further threats of taking me to a debt collection agency and pay the bill in full for both rooms.
Now 7 months down the line I get an email from
TripAdvisor asking for a review, I post a review stating what happened and how the management l/guest relations have responded and treated us and the management have said it’s completely inaccurate and they’ve only asked for payment for food and drinks! I’m absolutely raging! I’ve tried to edit my review to include the screenshots of emails stating the exact amount in question is for the 2 rooms but it won’t let me edit my review, I’ve then tried to post another review to back up the initial review and it’s only bringing my camera roll up to post from earlier today, I’ve deleted and redownloaded the app etc to no avail - I can’t get them posted to back up my version of events

OP posts:
Peaceandquietandacuppa · 15/05/2024 08:50

Take screenshots of everything again just before you go to post them on trip advisor, then they will appear in your most recent.

I’m sorry this happened to you all and especially your friend. It’s my worst nightmare as I travel alone a lot for work :(

Viviennemary · 15/05/2024 08:44

ageratum1 · 15/05/2024 08:31

I am not really sure what the hotel did wrong? Surely it is incumbent on the guest to make sure their room is locked - I don't think the different locks argument holds water as long as there was a functioning lock of some kind.i can see that the hotel management/lawyers would think that 'comping' the room may suggest am admission, there was some fault on their part, and open them up to a lawsuit.
I don't think you have a leg to stand on, especially if you have no hard evidence of the receptionist saying this.

Surely the police would advise if the hotel was negligent as regards the safety of guests. But even if a door was unlocked it's still shocking as a serious crime was committed. But the hotel itself can't be held responsible for this if the room had a lockable door. IMHO.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 15/05/2024 08:43

I’m so sorry for your friend’s horrific experience, I hope she is recovering.

I know nothing about posting and editing reviews but would urge everyone to travel with a simple, rubber door wedge. Push it firmly under the door so it cannot be pushed open but is easily pulled out of the way if you need to evacuate a room.

Hope the scum bag is convicted and his wife has started divorce proceedings.

Nenen · 15/05/2024 08:43

I think the manager’s response is horrible and can see why it rubs salt into the already horrible wounds for you and your friends. If it’s any consolation, I always try to read a few management responses to bad reviews as they say a lot about how problems are dealt with. I would be totally put off from going to the place after reading his responses to you and others.

I agree with previous posters who have suggested you report the manager’s response to TripAdvisor for breaking their rules… one of which is they are not allowed to suggest the review is fraudulent. Max is 250 characters so make sure you use words wisely to show the response breaks TA rules. You could write something along the lines of,

‘management response suggests I have written a fraudulent review and I am lying. In fact, I have evidence to prove I had already paid for all services we used up to the point of the sexual assault by an intruder while my friend slept.’

I hope the attacker is found guilty and hotel management held accountable for the lack of security and their appalling response to you all.

Bookworm1111 · 15/05/2024 08:40

I think you should remove the TA review. If your friend's case goes to court, the defence team will be looking for anything to discredit her to help their client. You complaining publicly about being charged for the rooms could play into a narrative that she's embellished her account to get freebies. I'm not saying that's what definitely would happen, but I wouldn't risk it and would take down the review and focus on your private complaint.

ageratum1 · 15/05/2024 08:31

I am not really sure what the hotel did wrong? Surely it is incumbent on the guest to make sure their room is locked - I don't think the different locks argument holds water as long as there was a functioning lock of some kind.i can see that the hotel management/lawyers would think that 'comping' the room may suggest am admission, there was some fault on their part, and open them up to a lawsuit.
I don't think you have a leg to stand on, especially if you have no hard evidence of the receptionist saying this.

Viviennemary · 15/05/2024 07:55

Thegoodbadandugly · 15/05/2024 07:51

Are you for real? The person has asked a genuine question and the question was is your friend ok with you posting about her being sexually assaulted online, I don't know about other people but if I was sexually assaulted I don't think I would want it splashed over the internet she's been through enough trauma as it is!

I wouldn't want this incident written about on a public forum either. Imagine if this happened to you and you read about it on here.

Thegoodbadandugly · 15/05/2024 07:51

JacquesHarlow · 14/05/2024 19:19

My goodness, another one…

Are you for real? The person has asked a genuine question and the question was is your friend ok with you posting about her being sexually assaulted online, I don't know about other people but if I was sexually assaulted I don't think I would want it splashed over the internet she's been through enough trauma as it is!

SpoonyFish · 15/05/2024 07:41

That's awful. We were on a hen in the travel lodge in Liverpool years ago and a group of men were able to use their key card to open our room in the early hours of the morning while we were asleep. Once they realised their mistake (I think they were in same room but different floor) they left but it shook us up. We complained to reception the next morning. It's scary how this can happen and I'm so sorry for your friend.

NormalNans · 15/05/2024 06:07

I don’t want to be THAT person, because I’m totally on board with all your concerns but I just want to say that if there is any chance that this can be traced back to a particular legal case, is there not a risk that it could prejudice any hearing / trial? Particularly now that you’ve named the hotel and people have found your review. I’m sure someone else will be able to either confirm or tell me I’m talking bollocks.

PurpleBugz · 15/05/2024 05:45

I've seen a few posts about men getting into women's rooms recently. It's disgusting men do these things but to have so many hotels failing basics in safety is depressing. You absolutely are not unreasonable op.

Polishedshoesalways · 15/05/2024 05:39

Do you have it in writing that they will not be charging you for x,y and z? If so, I would totally ignore them.

In terms of the trip advisor- get your other friends to write one too (not the victim unless they want to)

What was the man charged with? I work in a court and can help you.

costahotchocolatesaremyweakness · 15/05/2024 05:23

I see the TripAdvisor response and it has an option to “mark response as inappropriate”. Wonder what would happen if people clicked on that option and reported the responder for victim blaming?

costahotchocolatesaremyweakness · 15/05/2024 05:14

I hope that you are all recovering, and the horrible man is going to prison for his actions. As someone else mentioned Trustpilot sometimes works well for reviews/getting action. I had an issue with a very large insurance company, went in circles for months, wrote one trustpilot review and head office immediately sorted it and cut out the incompetent middle guys. What utter twattish behaviour on the part of the hotel though. I hope they see this and realise they made a very big mistake.

Combattingthemoaners · 15/05/2024 05:10

JacquesHarlow · 14/05/2024 19:19

My goodness, another one…

It’s unbelievable isn’t it. Someone could tell the most horrific story in the world with some minor detail about what they were eating and posters on here would be like “do you always have takeaways?” So bloody pedantic.

One poster the other day described her boyfriend hiding in the under stairs cupboard during a house party because he didn’t like her friends. Another poster completely ignored his weird behaviour and said “was he not allowed to have his own friends there??”. Constant blaming of others, it’s tiresome.

CorpusInterruptus · 15/05/2024 03:50

Geoff responds with the same pompous manner to a post complaining about soggy vegan sandwiches as he does to a guest whose party experienced sexual assault. Quite frankly the least they could have done was cover your food too. That doesn’t need to be an admission of guilt. Just basic human decency.

CorpusInterruptus · 15/05/2024 03:41

Coconutter24 · 14/05/2024 19:18

Was your friend ok with you posting all that on trip advisor?

Never mind…

CorpusInterruptus · 15/05/2024 03:40

longdistanceclaraclara · 14/05/2024 19:11

I don't think trip advisor is the place for the argument. Your writing style is very odd.

Jesus Christ.

Densol · 15/05/2024 02:22

Tbh - having read the managers response, it massively would put me off that hotel even more than your review. You can always judge a company by the way they handle things when it all goes wrong. His rude, unprofessional response is disgraceful. He has shot himself in the foot in my view 😂

Id be incensed and would be carefully putting up factual reviews on as many sites as I could.

I got conned by Booking dot con last month. Totally ignored by Booking - my bank have sorted it out. Not a lot of money - £95, but the annoyance and sense of injustice has made me review literally everywhere I can to put off as many people as I can. Trustpilot is good for venting reviews 😂

Hope your friend is ok 💐

Bobloblaw84 · 15/05/2024 01:49

Time to walk away. You won’t gain anything from this battle.

lucylulululu · 15/05/2024 01:17

After some googling, I found a news article, and it's apparent that this same hotel had ANOTHER sexual assault case occur by a guest 😐 this was back in 2014.

Regardless, this is appalling and I hope your friend is okay.

StormingNorman · 15/05/2024 00:27

Tripadvisornotloading · 14/05/2024 22:53

Although the police have been great in terms of investigating and putting a case together for my friend to get justice, their communication is lacking. She’s had CPS letters confirming he’s been charged and about court but the section where it’s meant to say what the charge is is blank and my friend has tried to clarify that to no avail. I think it’s likely sexual assault and threats to kill?
They’re using that as an excuse but how could just not mentioning payment for 2 rooms that were previously offered for free affect a court case. They could’ve simply not mentioned it. I think they think they’re admitting liability by not charging us, because in the grand scale of things £267 won’t break the bank for them. We spent upwards of £600 whilst there on various meals, snacks and drinks! They sometimes have 2 weddings a day. But even then as a guest relations manager if you’d been advised by the hotel legal team not to waiver the charge you’d still be nice to the guests and maybe arrange flowers and/or a voucher to come back. But anyway; the gripe isn’t even the money, it’s the treatment since and the lies on the TA review from Geoff.

They may be worrying now that if they comp the rooms it will be seen as an admission of guilt if the door was faulty.

My first thought was that the person who offered to comp the rooms forgot to pass on the message or update the system. There may be some plan in this, but I’d bet on it being old-fashioned incompetence.

Geoff sounds like an arse and the hotel seems to dislike having guests to stay so who knows.

Mostlyoblivious · 15/05/2024 00:16

I like the idea of the google review. The hotel looks bad with their response to you - it doesn’t look like you’re lying, please don’t worry.

I would complain and also charge back with the card company / section 75 as they have acted beyond poorly. I would also talk to the local press once the verdict is in. There are reporters who are members of the Neston and Parkgate fb groups so it won’t be hard to engage them.

I am really sorry Your friend has gone through this. I hope that they are doing okay

Moonpie6 · 14/05/2024 23:26

Everyone should put in Thorntons insta posts female guests check trip advisor

Lavengro · 14/05/2024 23:20

I think I would make it my mission to force the hotel to change the door locks in every room to be self-locking so this could never happen again. I would plague Geoff the GM and the director/owner every day until it happened, and I would write press releases and first person accounts about your experience for local papers, radio, TV and trading standards, and basically anyone who will stand still long enough to listen, until they confirm publicly that your request has been acted on. This is a fucking awful public safety and VAWG issue and anyone nitpicking on here should be ashamed of themselves too. Your poor friend. Flowers

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