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money for nothing - chucking stuff away

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Misthios · 14/05/2024 14:36

I do like crafty stuff and upcycling and all that sort of thing and like seeing what people do with things on Money for Nothing.

Today's show - woman pitches up with one of those massive Ikea bags of fabric and a huge cardboard box packed with buttons. Presenter obviously swoops on her and takes it all away to use.

Asks the woman why she is throwing away so much fabric/buttons. Answer - I didn't know what to do with it. SERIOUSLY?? If you don't want to take it to a charity shop, any school, nursery, Brownies/Cubs, afterschool club etc etc would chew your arm off for a donation like that.

I'm not sure whether it's that people are just too stupid to think of anything other than chucking it away, or too lazy to send an email or pick up the phone. Also not sure which of the two case scenarios is worse.

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Topofthemountain · 14/05/2024 19:08

We really struggled when it came to emptying my MIL's house. Some things were easy, but other stuff such as nick nacks (k?) not so much.

We were fortunate that we had about 7 months but many people may only have a month if in rented accommodation, especially council /HA. I had a lot more sympathy for people who just chuck everything, stick it in their garage / house for years or just take the essentials, lock the door and hand the keys back.

DH is often my barrier, he either nags when stuff is waiting to go, or makes me doubt myself with "Are you sure?". I do try to pass most things on but it isn't always easy.

GoingOnHol · 14/05/2024 19:07

I work with someone who spends hundreds (maybe thousands!) on Shein clothes, lives alone but has 3 wardrobes full of clothes, drawers full, loads still with tags on.
When she has a clear out she just dumps it all in the bin 😭 I suggested the clothing bins in supermarket car parks/charity shop/freecycle etc. but she just made loads of excuses about having no time/it's too much hassle. If she brought it into work I'd bloody deal with it for her!

FunLurker · 14/05/2024 19:02

PrincessTeaSet · 14/05/2024 17:17

Never give good stuff away for free. If you put a realistic but lower end price on you have much less trouble. Also why not just get rid in one go. It involves much less hassle. Or if you want to let it go separately you need to make separate listings. You are deliberately making your life harder by trying to stipulate they can only have 1 thing.

All listed separately. If I thought the people wouldn't make from clothes I'd give the lot to same person. But why would someone want size 8, 9 and 10 trainers? Anyway ill leave where they are for now

RandomUsernameHere · 14/05/2024 18:52

Completely agree. My DMum recently had a load of craft stuff she didn't want, I advertised it for free on a local Facebook group and she gave it to a lady who runs craft classes. She was extremely grateful and my DMum was happy it went to good use. I suppose it's harder for people who don't have social media though.

1offnamechange · 14/05/2024 18:47

Misthios · 14/05/2024 14:46

Agree - I'm not a "disposable" sort of person and have a lot of stuff in this house which is older than me, and would rather mend or refurbish than buy new.

I just don't get the mentality - you have an old chair, or bag of fabric, or table, or some other thing which someone might be able to get use out of and your first thought is that the very best place for that item is in landfill.

Yes but if you're having a massive tidy up or, two people with fully equipped houses moving in together, or sorting out a relative's house after they've died, it's not "just" one bag of fabric, is it?

It's10 files of old paperwork
A house load of furniture
Several wardrobes full of clothes of all ages and sizes
boxes full of toys
cupboards of food
boxes of random tools
gardening paraphernalia
full sets of crockery and cutlery
shelves of books
jewellery
car/bike
carpets/rugs/curtains, light shades, bedding, etc
and whatever else.

Most of which won't be accepted by the same place. If charity shops take them at all, which they often don't, you still have to sort them out and package them and transport them.

Perhaps that woman has already done 8 charity shops runs, 10 trips to the local recycling centre, paid for several big item collections from the council, sorted BHS to collect some of the best furniture, gone through and shredded/saved 70 years of paperwork, shared expensive or sentimental items out to the family, waited around for multiple timewasters on gumtree/fb marketplace, put stuff on ebay, taken random recycling to the big bins in the supermarkets, all after dealing with probate, trying to sell a house, whilst suffering through the grief of losing a family member, and doesn't need to be judged for being "stupid or lazy" for the one flipping bag of material she didn't know what else to do with?!? Is it really such a big issue in the scheme of things?

and as for "any school, nursery, Brownies/Cubs, afterschool club would bite your arm off" - I'm a teacher and I'd have no idea what to do if someone gave me a random load of material and buttons! tbh I'd be deeply unimpressed they were trying to offload their crap onto me.

NewGreenDuck · 14/05/2024 18:44

A lot of charity shops are really picky about what they will take. Perfectly good furniture isn't taken for various reasons most commonly not adhering to current fire regs. I've tried to give away perfectly good quality furniture on free cyle and again sometimes it just isn't wanted. People are often very specific and not a little unrealistic about what they want. Many don't take electrical items as I found when trying to donate a pair of really nice table lamps. I agree that it would be nice if we could recycle more, but sometimes it just isn't possible.

betterangels · 14/05/2024 18:44

Elebag · 14/05/2024 14:55

Giving stuff away is much harder than you think. I live in a large town and the amount of idiots on freecycle or whisk sites means I gradually give up trying to give it away.
Our tip is actually very good at sorting and recycling so I don't feel quite so bad for taking it there.

Yes to all of this.

No time-wasters or charity shop hassle.

MadameMaxGoesler · 14/05/2024 18:42

A PP mentioned Freegle. It's less well known than Freecycle, but same basic principle - to keep things out of landfill.
Full disclosure: my brother is CEO and runs the website.

SapphireOpal · 14/05/2024 18:24

Misthios · 14/05/2024 18:04

*But she did do something with it, she brought it to them. She could have just chucked them in her wheely bin.

I've not seen the show, so I may be missing the point.*

She didn't "bring it to them", the point of the show is that the presenter intercepts people who are about to throw things away, and then upcycles them. Or gets other people to upcycle things, reupholster chairs, paint sideboards - that sort of thing.

Yes but they advertise they're going to be there!

SapphireOpal · 14/05/2024 18:22

I'm autistic and it takes a huge amount out of me to organise doing something like this. It's not just "two minutes to email Brownies" or whatever.

I have clothes waiting to be donated. They've been there for about 6 months. It's WAY too overwhelming to take them somewhere. I have definitely chucked things I "could" have donated.

You have no idea about people's circumstances. It's not necessarily that people are "stupid" or "lazy".

alrightluv · 14/05/2024 18:20

I must be lucky as our charity shops are grateful. They pick up furniture. Not painted furniture though.
I did wonder about some of the stuff on there. Makes sense now they advertise they're going to be at the tip. There's loads of craft groups not far from me would take it.
I do remember watching one with load of material and thinking wtf??

Uncooperativefingers · 14/05/2024 18:12

Misthios · 14/05/2024 18:04

*But she did do something with it, she brought it to them. She could have just chucked them in her wheely bin.

I've not seen the show, so I may be missing the point.*

She didn't "bring it to them", the point of the show is that the presenter intercepts people who are about to throw things away, and then upcycles them. Or gets other people to upcycle things, reupholster chairs, paint sideboards - that sort of thing.

I would suspect that the show is something of a "fix" tbh

There's a charity shop around here that accepts different donations on different days. So women's clothes one day, men's clothes another and so on for kids clothes, homewares and books. I appreciate it easy to sort, but I'm not going 5 times on a week to donate, especially when it's open 10-4. One quick dash in my lunch break is usually my limit

LoobyDop · 14/05/2024 18:07

aLFIESMA · 14/05/2024 16:14

Many years ago Misthios, the local tip had an area where you could put out/rummage treasures! I 'scored' a water feature, ercol chair frame, a beautiful huge mirror as well as little finds!
Sadly no longer allowed, maybe health & safety?
Sometimes I came home with more in the boot than I tookGrin

Our local one has a “reuse and repair” area where you can leave stuff, or root around and help yourself. It’s much less guilt-inducing to leave things in there than to throw them away, and much less hassle than trying to find a new owner for them yourself.

Misthios · 14/05/2024 18:04

*But she did do something with it, she brought it to them. She could have just chucked them in her wheely bin.

I've not seen the show, so I may be missing the point.*

She didn't "bring it to them", the point of the show is that the presenter intercepts people who are about to throw things away, and then upcycles them. Or gets other people to upcycle things, reupholster chairs, paint sideboards - that sort of thing.

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JustCantBeBothered · 14/05/2024 18:00

I agree with comments about rudeness of charity shops ATM. I have a lovely shop in my village that I go to often. However, whenever I donate (I have kids so churning through stuff) it's met with "oh. Toys/clothes. Great. Stick it over there". I don't expect a fanfare to go off as I've donated my moses basket, walker etc but geez these are often items tied up with memories too which are often taken with some reluctance if not downright snobbery. It's a shame as it is quite off putting.

pizzaHeart · 14/05/2024 17:43

lafepaer · 14/05/2024 15:03

It takes time and effort to give things away, and everyone's time is money. It's even hard to take things to a charity shop as they don't want things left outside and then their opening hours mean you can't get there if you work and commute and have weekend commitments. Getting in touch with a school or voluntary organisation is hard work as they are too busy to pick up the phone or respond to emails and won't let you past the gates if you're not a parent, and then they get sniffy about the condition things are in, or storage space. Freecycle and FB are full of CFs who arrange a pickup then don't turn up. Definitely less work to just chuck it, you just leave out it in your bin on a normal bin day, which you have to do anyway with normal rubbish.

This^

DancingNotDrowning · 14/05/2024 17:36

Misthios · 14/05/2024 15:11

I know what charity shops do and don't want, as I've volunteered in one for 10 years!!

I will admit to being judgemental as personally I think it is definitely worth taking the time and making the effort to repurpose or give stuff away, or even recycle your old books and jigsaws with bits missing rather than just chucking stuff into landfill as the default setting.

You clearly don’t.

I live in an affluent area and it’s impossible to give stuff away.

I don’t want to sell on vinted or eBay. I don’t have time or patience. i recently cleared out DDs wardrobe and had three bin bags of at worst barely worn clothes. Most was still tagged. You could give it away on Facebook or free cycle.

Other things I can’t give away:

  • old (4yrs) lap tops
  • christmas bedding
  • Sofa
  • Solid wood internal doors that were removed during a renovation
OMGitsnotgood · 14/05/2024 17:30

A friend of mine refuses to throw anything away. An admirable aim. However, whenever she declutters (which is often, as she also acquires a lot of stuff she can't bear to see being thrown away by others), between posting on FB/freecycle etc, getting frustrated when people don't collect and having to do it all again, numerous charity shop trips, and trying to pass stuff on to friends who don't want it, this all takes a huge toll on her well being.

So whilst I agree we should all do a better job of trying not to just throw stuff away, there is a flip side. I guess it's key to only buy what you need/can use but that's not always straightforward either.

Churchview · 14/05/2024 17:29

I've cleared out my parents and inlaws houses and had to get rid of tons of stuff. The only things I couldn't get rid of on freecycle and local facebook buy/sell pages, at the gate, to charity shops and via the scrap metal man were ancient old stained mattresses.

The appalling crap people will come to collect if it's free is astonishing. Charge a £1 and nobody comes - offer it free and they'll snatch your arm off.

It's definitely worth trying to get rid of stuff.

TonTonMacoute · 14/05/2024 17:24

Dotjones · 14/05/2024 14:50

It's easier just to throw things out if you don't want them anymore. The trouble with donating them to a charity shop or the other groups you mention is that the experience of giving is often unpleasant. Often they are rude or act like they're doing you a massive favour by taking your donation. If you just throw it away, you don't have that hassle.

This! We are having a big clear out at the moment and honestly it's a nightmare trying to pass on stuff, even good quality.

There used to be a big distribution centre for a local charity near us, and you could just take everything along, but they closed down during Covid unfortunately. The people at the shop, which is still there, said that people are giving away so much stuff atm charity shops are swamped, it's just too expensive to process and sort all the stuff they are given.

Near us the nicest and most receptive shop is Oxfam, but you have to do donations a bit at a time. Another shop treated us as if we were trying to give them leprosy.

PrincessTeaSet · 14/05/2024 17:17

FunLurker · 14/05/2024 15:23

I recently sorted out my boys clothes, both in men's. I listed things on gumtree for free, 6 tracksuit, all medium, 2 brand new and 4 worn. Nike, northface and another brand. 3 logo tshirts and 3 pairs of Nike trainers. I had so many people asking to just collect the lot despite me saying please only have a couple of things as I knew the items were good, and wanted ut to be fair. Had people telling me that were coming right their and then. I also said when id be in. People telling me they wanted items but I'd have to drop them off, no please or thank you. I took them all off apart from 1 tracksuit and pair of trainers that went, to a lovely lady. Now all sat in cupboard under stairs. Yes I could take to clothes bank but the local one isn't that local. Yes theirs charity shops but they like you to book a appointment so they can go through the bags your donating.

Never give good stuff away for free. If you put a realistic but lower end price on you have much less trouble. Also why not just get rid in one go. It involves much less hassle. Or if you want to let it go separately you need to make separate listings. You are deliberately making your life harder by trying to stipulate they can only have 1 thing.

GimmeGin · 14/05/2024 17:16

Misthios · 14/05/2024 15:00

Oh I do understand about the time wasters on freecycle and gumtree. But a massive bag of fabric and box of buttons - wouldn't you automatically think of the local school or Brownies?

I recently had a clear out and came across a box of paper from when DD went through a papercraft phase. Took 2 minutes to email the local nursery and another 2 minutes to drop it off next time I was passing. Would take much longer than that to drive to the tip. It's not about the money - I think the whole "look how much you've made" thing of that particular show it a bit disingenuous as they do not factor in transporting a three piece suite or massive dining table from Surrey to Aberdeen.

It just boggles my mind that the default setting for so many people is landfill.

Sorry I’m going to have to say you ABU. My dear departed mum was a quilter. She had two double wardrobes full to the brim of fabrics and all the rest of the gubbins. I contacted numerous organisations far and wide, and none of them wanted it.

I was so upset that all my mums treasure was likely going to landfill. She would have been sad about that.

We did manage eventually to get a crafting charity to take the stuff, but it wasn’t easy. The poor woman who picked it up only had a small car, but we squeezed it in somehow. was so relieved that it was going to good use, and with only 3 days to spare before house completion.

So no, it’s not a two minute task in my experience.

Anotherparkingthread · 14/05/2024 17:12

I think most people get to the point where they are desperate for space and breathing room. That box of fabric and buttons won't be the only thing being taken to the tip, it will be part of a larger clear out and the only bit you saw on TV. Often these people are hoarders or clutter collectors at least and need to get things gone instead is sitting on them until they get around to taking it to where it can be donated or listing items and trying to sell them. It's not laziness it's literally because otherwise they will end up keeping it because the volume of items they have is too overwhelming to do anything with other than discard. Convincing people that trash is treasure only stands to enforce hoarder mindsets and can really ruin your quality of life. Let people throw their junk away guilt free.

Kesio · 14/05/2024 17:03

Misthios · 14/05/2024 14:46

Agree - I'm not a "disposable" sort of person and have a lot of stuff in this house which is older than me, and would rather mend or refurbish than buy new.

I just don't get the mentality - you have an old chair, or bag of fabric, or table, or some other thing which someone might be able to get use out of and your first thought is that the very best place for that item is in landfill.

I don't think people's first thought is the landfill. It's actually incredibly difficult to get rid of things that you no longer need in some places. People have small homes and no space for stuff and need to get rid quickly so they can get on with their very busy life.

I had a toddler bed that had been used for a couple of years and was immaculate. It was only a cheap Ikea one. I took the wooden frame and slats to the "too good to tip section" at our "recycling centre" and actually got shouted at pretty aggressively: WE DON'T WANT THAT. So I put it in the wood recycling.

Haven't you seen the threads on here where people do freecycling or similar and the person doesn't turn up when the poster is waiting in, or demands delivery 20 miles away, or is just ridiculously rude: "MINE"? It's more trouble than it's worth in many cases.

People would probably give stuff if there was a quick way to match up donations with people who want them. But in reality, there isn't. It isn't as simple as making a phone call. It's a right pain in the arse and takes time and effort that people can't afford. So they put stuff in the landfill.

There are plenty of schools who wouldn't take random bags of fabric. Someone would have to go through it and no member of staff has the time for that.

It really isn't as simple as you think. People aren't lazy or stupid, they're just very busy and have had enough of wading through treacle just to get rid of stuff. So they landfill it, understandably.

WrenNatsworthy · 14/05/2024 16:50

Ziffit is great for books. They come and collect too.