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To hate the vacuousness of some young girls nowadays?

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 20:45

I find it so sad. 12 year olds obsessed by beauty brands, TikTok, doing their hair for school, fake tan, ridiculously short school skirts, it all seems so sad. And they are clones. Room in their heads only for brands

i know this is not all of them.

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Mckypch · 13/05/2024 21:55

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:51

Maybe I’d like girls to think about other things than the on brand skincare to buy, at 12

And what do you do to help the situation? Do you encourage them? Tell them they are smart and capable? Or just sneer at them because that's more fun for you.

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 21:55

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:51

Maybe I’d like girls to think about other things than the on brand skincare to buy, at 12

THEY DO!

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:55

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/05/2024 21:54

My view as well. Jumped the shark with the grammar school stuff

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That was in reply to a “grammar school’ post

We don’t even have them here

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FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 21:54

FourEyesGood · 13/05/2024 20:49

There have always been vacuous young girls (and boys, and men, and women). Perhaps they’re more visible these days due to social media, but they’re really nothing new.

No but I think the fashion is on the next level now - when I was a teen in the 2000s to look ‘dolled up’ you just needed make up, hair straighteners, some nail polish and a fashionable outfit from New Look (maybe body glitter if you were going the whole hog 😉) but now it’s fake tan, extensions, lashes, LVL, acrylics, expensive products, lip filler, clothes which cost an absolute fortune (£200 North Face jackets! A world away from Tammy Girl), £100 trainers, designer bags… it’s mental. Not to mention a chemically nightmare, just imagine the shit they’re pumping into their lips and the effects it will have on their health in 10 years 🤯🤯

And I don’t know if I’m the only person to notice but they seem to think it’s cool and fashionable to look miserable, have ‘resting bitch face’ and act in a surly and indifferent way.

It’s all quite sad actually. They should go back to cheap and naff fashion and prank calls, they’ll all feel better for it.

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:54

MissTrip82 · 13/05/2024 21:50

It’s always been the case that misogynists trivialise and belittle teenage girls.

Nothing changes.

What changes is the power of social media to manipulate children

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/05/2024 21:54

Bellsandthistle · 13/05/2024 21:50

My post isn’t about “intelligent grammar school girls”… ”It’s probably poor girls”.

This is surely a wind-up.

My view as well. Jumped the shark with the grammar school stuff

Garlicked · 13/05/2024 21:54

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:43

My post isn’t about intelligent grammar school girls chatting makeup in between the issues of the day and popping into boots

Its about the obsessional pursuit of a media driven ideal

I said we were intelligent, fashion-obsessed, "vacuous" grammar-school girls. You made up the popping into Boots in between discussing issues of the day 😂

Most discussion around issues of the day happened in school and at the family dinner table. You could always take that leaf out of my parents' book, since you're already echoing their other concerns.

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:53

Many of these answers are so disingenuous: people would not be happy if this was all their daughters thought about

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:51

Maybe I’d like girls to think about other things than the on brand skincare to buy, at 12

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Bellsandthistle · 13/05/2024 21:50

My post isn’t about “intelligent grammar school girls”… ”It’s probably poor girls”.

This is surely a wind-up.

MissTrip82 · 13/05/2024 21:50

It’s always been the case that misogynists trivialise and belittle teenage girls.

Nothing changes.

AGirlWithAHandOnHerArm · 13/05/2024 21:49

60andsomething · 13/05/2024 21:29

I am sure she is lovely, but it is deeply depressing that she has been suckered in to believing she need "skin care". of course she doesn't, and I am saddened that any mothers caught in this trap themselves deem it appropriate to pass the oppression on to their daughters.

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With respect, there is no “trap” about understanding the importance of skincare and good skin hygiene. In France they have facialists, and girls as young as twelve are taught the importance of skincare and go for facials. It’s about looking after oneself naturally, from a young age, not putting lots of products on young skin (my daughter certainly isn’t) - using sun protection from a young age and being skin aware. That is what I meant with brands, that is what I meant by my influence. The opposite of putting rubbish on her skin.

Momstermunch · 13/05/2024 21:49

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:39

My point is precisely the opposite.

its that this is all they think about

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I know your point is the opposite, you absolute donut.

I'm saying you're wrong.

Yes 12 and 13 year old girls like short skirts and make up. As the always have. They also do sport, play instruments, read books and numerous other things.

If you are judging young girls based on their appearance then YOU are the problem, not them

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 21:49

KreedKafer · 13/05/2024 21:47

You’re a colossal snob.

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Yup - we are a fairly hard up single parent family - all my kids go/went to RI state schools!

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 21:48

Contact with them? So you get a snap chat of their social conversations - not an actual view of them as rounded humans.

KreedKafer · 13/05/2024 21:47

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:43

My post isn’t about intelligent grammar school girls chatting makeup in between the issues of the day and popping into boots

Its about the obsessional pursuit of a media driven ideal

You’re a colossal snob.

Motnight · 13/05/2024 21:47

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:43

My post isn’t about intelligent grammar school girls chatting makeup in between the issues of the day and popping into boots

Its about the obsessional pursuit of a media driven ideal

Thank fuck for intelligent grammar school girls as well as the non intelligent comprehensive school girls.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 13/05/2024 21:47

Wow this thread feels reall judgy imo. Nice to note it’s not grammar school girls OP- just us commoners who went to comprehensive then?
this was me in the late 80’s, early 90’s - tiny skirt, hot pants, brands…
I’m a trauma specialist psychotherapist now, but hey, hopefully still a bit vacuous

KreedKafer · 13/05/2024 21:46

It’s always girls that people call ‘vacuous’ for being into fashion and beauty, isn’t it? Funny how nobody talks about boys like that, when they are just as likely to be obsessed with brands and looking cool and spend just as much time glued to their phones.

By ‘funny’ I mean ‘really fucking misogynistic’ of course.

Anyway. People, both male and female, are allowed to enjoy frivolous trivial stuff. Just because someone loves trends and likes to have a certain image, that doesn’t mean they aren’t a decent human being and it doesn’t mean they don’t care about other things too. One of my adult nephews absolutely LOVES designer brands, flash bars and restaurants, partying in ridiculous clubs, expensive toiletries and all the rest. No idea where he gets this from as nobody else in the family is like that at all, but anyway - he is absolutely one of the kindest, most generous, most thoughtful and hard-working young men you could possibly wish to meet. He is one of the least judgmental and most open, friendly people I’ve ever met and he basically succeeds at everything he does because he’s clever, diligent and motivated. So maybe, if you judge kids on their love of trendy brands, it’s you who’s the shallow one here.

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:46

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 21:45

But again - how do you know? How do you know that this is ALL 'some girls' talk/care about?

Because I have contact with them

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:46

It’s probably poor girls who are mainly preyed on by this culture.

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IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 13/05/2024 21:45

Whereas young boys are SUCH deep thinkers...

Motnight · 13/05/2024 21:45

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 13/05/2024 21:13

WTF!? She needs to do nothing to her skin except wash it. She's 12! Oh well you do you😑

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But it doesn't make @AGirlWithAHandOnHerArm's daughter vacuous does it?

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 21:45

But again - how do you know? How do you know that this is ALL 'some girls' talk/care about?

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:44

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 21:43

its that this is all they think about but how do you KNOW that? from social media, observing them a few hours a day in school, overhearing conversations in Primark? Do you have teenage girls?

Mine talks about: Her boyfriend, her latest haul, holidays, her dads dog, our cats, Gazza, the next election, bubble tea, Vampire Diaries, her sisters, her mates and lots of other things - in fact she never stops - but it's not ALL brands and make up.

Again: some girls

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