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To hate the vacuousness of some young girls nowadays?

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 20:45

I find it so sad. 12 year olds obsessed by beauty brands, TikTok, doing their hair for school, fake tan, ridiculously short school skirts, it all seems so sad. And they are clones. Room in their heads only for brands

i know this is not all of them.

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Mckypch · 13/05/2024 22:15

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 21:57

I do not sneer at them.

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You've been sneering at them for 7 pages now! I give up 😂

You've not said what you do to encourage their other interests, so I can only assume that being horrible about them makes you feel good.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 13/05/2024 22:14

FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 22:10

Did you inject your lips, get Botox, spend the equivalent of £200 on a coat which you begged your mum for because everyone else had one?

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Umm Botox wasn’t a thing but yeah I’ve already said I did spend that on clothes…

Coach purse @ 16 along with acrylic nails. Also got my perms (why yes I’m dating myself) cuts and color done at the original Aveda salons.

OnlyOneAdda · 13/05/2024 22:14

What a judgy sanctimonious cow you are.

My teen DC are very much into skincare, make-up and TikTok...and are also highly intelligent - both academically and emotionally - with sound values & priorities, interesting opinions and are generally great company.

The irony of somebody posting this BS and describing others as vacuous...

ConfusedKoala13 · 13/05/2024 22:14

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 20:54

No. I was very into make up in the 80s. But it was about fun and experimenting, not brands and confirming

But it was - it was just Impulse & Body Shop instead of Sol de Janeiro and Byoma. And it's bubble tea and iced coffee rather than diamond white & 20:20. Naf naf & Kappa not North face & Nike
They're just gonna need better Saturday jobs 🤣
My 13 yo probably wouldn't see the joy in leafing through every poster in Athena every week but would watch YouTube shorts endlessly - teenagers are similar just the details that change

SundaysAndMondays · 13/05/2024 22:13

FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 22:08

Of course they bloody don’t.

All very well making yourself look like a five star feminist and cooool mannnnn by calling OP a misogynist and out of touch, but in 20 years when these girls are crippled with anxiety they are now and wondering why the fuck we didn’t empower them to rein in the impossible beauty standards that have resulted in the horrors of lip filler, Botox and experimental ‘vitamin injections’ etc what will we say then?

It’s nothing like wearing bloody blue eye shadow in the 80s, stop the faux naivety

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The op isn't empowering girls.

Maelil01 · 13/05/2024 22:12

Screamingabdabz · 13/05/2024 20:51

Lots of grown adult men are endlessly obsessed with kicky ball and their dicks. But let’s pick on 12 year old girls eh?

It’s possible to think about more than 1 topic at a time 🙄

Bellsandthistle · 13/05/2024 22:12

Stop blaming young girls for the problems of consumerism and social media.

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:12

AuraBora · 13/05/2024 22:11

This nails it for me.
My daughter is not yet 7 but I seriously hope she doesn't get sucked into it all (if that's actually possible).
I don't agree that the OP is sneering or belittling young girls of today, I think perhaps the wording could have been better but I absolutely agree with her sentiment.

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I will own the wording, blame it on frustration

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ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 22:11

boredinmy30s · 13/05/2024 22:05

@FaeryRing @ghostyslovesheets

the consumerism is starting earlier and earlier. Does a 10 year old need a £45 cup...

No they don;t but as a parent you don's BUY it - you buy the £4.99 dupe and explain that paying that much for a cup is stupid!

I can remember badgering my mum repeatedly for a horse - I worked for free at a yard to get free rides, I converted our shed to a stable which I mucked out every day and I begged and Begged every birthday and Christmas - my mum just said 'Ghosty, we can't keep a horse in a 3 bed terrace so no' because that's parenting

SundaysAndMondays · 13/05/2024 22:11

And they are clones.

How lovely, dehumanising young girls😖

Room in their heads only for brands

Sneery and rude.

Shame, a discussion about the pitfalls of social media marketing and addictive smart phone could have been interesting but you are just being rude about young girls and women.

AuraBora · 13/05/2024 22:11

FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 22:01

It’s part of a bigger culture where teen life is sheer materialism and being cooped up on screens.

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This nails it for me.
My daughter is not yet 7 but I seriously hope she doesn't get sucked into it all (if that's actually possible).
I don't agree that the OP is sneering or belittling young girls of today, I think perhaps the wording could have been better but I absolutely agree with her sentiment.

FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 22:10

saltinesandcoffeecups · 13/05/2024 22:09

It was the same back ‘then’ too! Then for me being late 80’s early 90s, but I think we’ve had representation back to the 50s in this thread.

Now I’m starting to think you were that girl that looked and dressed like was a 40 yo mum at 14.

Seriously what did the girls at your school wear?

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Did you inject your lips, get Botox, spend the equivalent of £200 on a coat which you begged your mum for because everyone else had one?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/05/2024 22:10

Follow 90s goop on insta. They post photos of articles from 90s magazines. They were all obsessed with makeovers for 11-13 year olds and looking good for lush lads at the disco - beauty obsession is nothing new! At least there are more diverse roll models now

saltinesandcoffeecups · 13/05/2024 22:09

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:04

It’s so different now. These aren’t trends, they are must haves

12 year olds in body con outfits and full nightclub makeup as seen on the media

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It was the same back ‘then’ too! Then for me being late 80’s early 90s, but I think we’ve had representation back to the 50s in this thread.

Now I’m starting to think you were that girl that looked and dressed like was a 40 yo mum at 14.

Seriously what did the girls at your school wear?

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:08

high end beauty counters were not full of pre teens

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FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 22:08

boredinmy30s · 13/05/2024 22:05

@FaeryRing @ghostyslovesheets

the consumerism is starting earlier and earlier. Does a 10 year old need a £45 cup...

Of course they bloody don’t.

All very well making yourself look like a five star feminist and cooool mannnnn by calling OP a misogynist and out of touch, but in 20 years when these girls are crippled with anxiety they are now and wondering why the fuck we didn’t empower them to rein in the impossible beauty standards that have resulted in the horrors of lip filler, Botox and experimental ‘vitamin injections’ etc what will we say then?

It’s nothing like wearing bloody blue eye shadow in the 80s, stop the faux naivety

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:07

The trend, and the consumerism, is different, and it’s not harmless

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FrangipaniBlue · 13/05/2024 22:06

*demanding the latest sm approved fragrance.

This is the massive difference*

The only difference is that we were influenced by the SM of the time in the form of magazines like Cosmo and Bliss because the internet didn't exist.

It's still social influence!

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:06

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 22:05

Well I was going to actual nightclubs at 14 - in 1984 so that's an improvement!

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Hurray for progress! 👀

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Sheepinclothing · 13/05/2024 22:05

SundaysAndMondays · 13/05/2024 22:01

What a sexist and unpleasant undertone on this thread. I find it so strange when grown women are so judgemental and derogatory about young girls and women. Leave it, they don't have to be in any way that pleases you or gets your approval.
Op you are projecting your misogyny. Sad.

This!

boredinmy30s · 13/05/2024 22:05

@FaeryRing @ghostyslovesheets

the consumerism is starting earlier and earlier. Does a 10 year old need a £45 cup...

catscalledbeanz · 13/05/2024 22:05

Unless "close association" means you live with them, (although even then to make the outlandish claim you know what someone thinks about "all the time" is obviously non sense) then it all stands.

If they live with you, then I would both lay some blame at your door, and or pity the girls involved.

If they do only think of brands then their parents have failed them and they deserve no ire- rather judge their parents for their mistakes, not the children who are but products of their upbringing.

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CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:05

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 22:04

But teens have ALWAYS (well post war) been targets by consumerism and media - that's not new. I can only speak for my 3 but, while they do engage a lot in SM they are not cooped up on screens 24/7

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Yours might not be captured, of course not

But many are

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ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 22:05

CarryOnCharon · 13/05/2024 22:04

It’s so different now. These aren’t trends, they are must haves

12 year olds in body con outfits and full nightclub makeup as seen on the media

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Well I was going to actual nightclubs at 14 - in 1984 so that's an improvement!

ghostyslovesheets · 13/05/2024 22:04

FaeryRing · 13/05/2024 22:01

It’s part of a bigger culture where teen life is sheer materialism and being cooped up on screens.

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But teens have ALWAYS (well post war) been targets by consumerism and media - that's not new. I can only speak for my 3 but, while they do engage a lot in SM they are not cooped up on screens 24/7

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