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Friend lied about having emotional support dog.

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Otins · 13/05/2024 14:50

A friend of mine has a dog. He is a pet. She loves him, but he is a pet. Nothing else.

She recently went on a day out to a stately home. Dogs not allowed inside.

She told them it was an emotional support dog and they let him in.

She thought it was really funny and clever to do this.

I told her that I didn’t approve - and we moved on, and it was fine.

But the more I think about it, the more it winds me up.

For transparency, I am not a dog lover (not a dog hater either) and the sense of entitlement I see from many dog owners annoys me, and I think dogs being allowed (emotional support or not) in cafes and shops is inappropriate.

Whatever happened to leaving your dog at home to snooze on the sofa while you went out?

AIBU

Yes - how does this affect you if she takes her dog into places when you’re not there.

No - she was wrong to deceive the stately home in this way.

OP posts:
blacksax · 13/05/2024 16:01

Let's leave aside all those for whom an assistance dog of one sort or another is an essential way of being able to manage their disability or other condition. We all know how vital they are.

Anyone else who is so emotionally attached to their furbaby that they lie their way into a stately home with the animal is... well... barking.

asbigasablueberry · 13/05/2024 16:00

What the hell is an emotional support dog?

I am convinced a little more each day that humans are making themselves so feeble, that we are on the road to extinction.

Funkyslippers · 13/05/2024 16:00

Ponoka7 · 13/05/2024 15:59

No they aren't.
https://www.esaorguk.com/

I just saw that. The stately home should have asked for proof

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/05/2024 16:00

SherlockHomies · 13/05/2024 15:52

The thing is, the venues must be happy to let them in because they don't have to.

They might not be happy, just trying to avoid a scene/one star reviews on Trip Advisor.

Ponoka7 · 13/05/2024 15:59

CammyChameleon · 13/05/2024 15:54

Emotional support dogs are basically pets, so she didn't really lie.

No they aren't.
https://www.esaorguk.com/

Emotional Support Animals UK

Emotional Support Animals UK Registration

https://www.esaorguk.com

SherlockHomies · 13/05/2024 15:57

CammyChameleon · 13/05/2024 15:54

Emotional support dogs are basically pets, so she didn't really lie.

Of course she lied.

She doesn't use it/need it for emotional support.

Youdontevengohere · 13/05/2024 15:57

Your friend behaved entirely unreasonably, so YANBU. However it’s entirely up to the owners of the cafes/restaurants etc as to whether they allow/encourage dogs (and obviously completely up to you as to whether you decide to frequent the establishment based on that).

Ponoka7 · 13/05/2024 15:57

NeedToChangeName · 13/05/2024 15:35

How about emotional support peacocks?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42880690

I'd prefer a donkey.

CammyChameleon · 13/05/2024 15:54

Emotional support dogs are basically pets, so she didn't really lie.

Ponoka7 · 13/05/2024 15:54

We meed an official registration for emotional support dogs. I know someone who has one and he is going through the tests for paperwork etc, to get him registered. People like your friend are abusing a system set up for people who have MH/disabilities. It's one step over parking in a disabled place.

PermanentIyExhaustedPigeon · 13/05/2024 15:53

It's a cunty thing to do and it makes life harder for the people who really do need such adjustments to be made.

I'd be really pissed off.

SherlockHomies · 13/05/2024 15:52

The thing is, the venues must be happy to let them in because they don't have to.

Misthios · 13/05/2024 15:51

I know more than one person who does this regularly.

pestowithwalnuts · 13/05/2024 15:48

Nothing against Support Dogs
But why do people feel the need to take dogs everywhere they go..
In Ambleside this place is overun with dogs,,and dog shit.

Notreat · 13/05/2024 15:48

Your friend was being very unreasonable saying her dog was a support dog . It's unfair on people who do need a support dog.

Hoppinggreen · 13/05/2024 15:45

Harvestfestivalknickers · 13/05/2024 15:40

Yes, I work at a visitor attraction that only admits assistance dogs. The amount of 'emotional' support dogs that we see is growing. But we always ask to see proof and tell the owner it needs to wear the appropriate harness/jacket identifying it as an assistance dog. Funny how many people have driven such a long way and left that at home!

Unfortunately there is no official scheme so it makes it harder.
I work with people moving to The Uk from abroad and I was discussing finding one client a property that would accept their cat. They claimed that as the cat was a "registered" emotional support cat it was illegal for a Landlord not to accept it and if a LL turned them down for any reason they would be able to claim it was due to the cat and sue. I explained that it didn't work like that here.

SherlockHomies · 13/05/2024 15:44

Harvestfestivalknickers · 13/05/2024 15:40

Yes, I work at a visitor attraction that only admits assistance dogs. The amount of 'emotional' support dogs that we see is growing. But we always ask to see proof and tell the owner it needs to wear the appropriate harness/jacket identifying it as an assistance dog. Funny how many people have driven such a long way and left that at home!

I could have written this! In fact I was just about to 😲

I also work at a visitor attraction and we don't allow 'emotional support' dogs in at all.

But assistance dogs are a little more tricky as they don't legally need ID.

Harvestfestivalknickers · 13/05/2024 15:40

Yes, I work at a visitor attraction that only admits assistance dogs. The amount of 'emotional' support dogs that we see is growing. But we always ask to see proof and tell the owner it needs to wear the appropriate harness/jacket identifying it as an assistance dog. Funny how many people have driven such a long way and left that at home!

Floralnomad · 13/05/2024 15:32

YANBU , there needs to be a crack down on this ‘support dog’ business , won’t be long before everyone has their pet going everywhere . I love my dog and don’t mind well behaved dogs in cafes etc but I don’t want to be bumping into loads of dogs in shops , museums , stately homes etc

Mrsjayy · 13/05/2024 15:26

There is a woman I follow on SM insists her dog is an emotional support dog it even has a harness label, it's just her pet but she takes it everywhere it's a bit daft really,

Hoppinggreen · 13/05/2024 15:24

While I fully understand how properly trained dogs can support people with diabilities I don't hold with all this "support dog" nonsense - largely because of people like your friend who take the piss.
I have a dog and I sometimes take him to dog friendly cafes or similar (where he keeps out of everyones way and is no trouble to anyone) but I wouldn't dream of trying to claim he supports me emotionally to take him somewhere that dogs aren't allowed.
Your friend basically pretended to be disabled, which is a shitty thing to do

loropianalover · 13/05/2024 15:03

YANBU. I’m not a dog person so my judgement might be clouded but I’m sick of dogs being everywhere (service/assistance dogs doing a job not included, they are so clever!).

I’m sick of people getting breeds they can’t manage, leaving the dog dirty and smelly, carting them everywhere and anywhere instead of doing dog friendly activities with them or leaving them at home/in the care of someone. I know a man with an old bulldog that he got just for the ‘look’ years ago and he now couldn’t care less about the dog, shows no affection to it and the poor thing stinks and is too fat to clean himself.

PlaySuitHelp · 13/05/2024 15:03

Otins · 13/05/2024 14:56

Of course I don’t include Assistance dogs in my gripe about dogs being allowed in cafes etc.

My friend wasn’t pretending her pet was an Assistance dog, but an Emotional Support dog.

Edited

Sorry I thought you meant no dogs at all. Apologies.

So she shouldn't have been allowed entry as Emotional support dogs are not a thing in the UK. That's a term from USA. The UK is strictly Assistance Dogs under the Equality Act 2010. So if she keeps trying that she could find herself in difficulty... It annoys me so much when people fake Assistance Dog status 😡

Bjorkdidit · 13/05/2024 15:00

I thought the main benefit to having an 'emotional support dog' was that it was a ruse that allowed you to take it in the cabin to fly around the US for free/very cheap rather than having to pay for specialist pet transportation.