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Parent taking teenage boy into women's changing room

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JohnnyLuLus · 12/05/2024 23:26

I need to preface this with this is not about transwomen. This is about parents.

I was swimming with my children today at a leisure club. The gym overlooks the pool.and my teens noticed a boy who looked about their age (13) in the gym. They asked if they could use the gym, but the rules are no under-16s. I explained that the boy was probably older than he looked. All fine. (I was somewhat disgusted by the fact he took off his top to run on the treadmill, but I recognise that's probably my issue).

Anyway, after our.swim my teen boys went off to get changed in the men's changing room, whilst my 11 year old daughter and I went into the ladies.

It's an open-plan changing room - no private space and who should walk in, but the teenage boy and his mother. She kind of ushered him nto the corner and he sat on a bench. I got my daughter to cover up and hurried her along, but she's 11 and autistic so some executive functioning issues, so inevitably was exposed - I stood between her and the boy's line of sight. As I was trying to get her to finish up, the mother came over and said , "is it okay if my little boy walks through". I said "no not really is it, and he shouldn't be in here, he's no little either".
She then said in a defensive voice "Well he's autistic, what am I supposed to do?" and then hurried him.out to the pool.

2/3 of my children are autistic, I get it's hard. But that shouldn't mean a teenage boy is in the open-plan women's changing area. The local leisure centres have family changing.

Being the weekend, the only staff on reception were young weekend staff, but I've left a message for the manager to get back to me tomorrow.

Aibu unreasonable for leaving a message saying we will revoke our membership if they don't make it very clear what their rules are around age limits to the opposite sex changing room?

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Ereyraa · 13/05/2024 03:09

anonai · 12/05/2024 23:29

YABU. I get it was an uncomfortable situation but autism means different things for different people. Perhaps this young person isn't capable of getting changed independently and so needed his mum's support (I know my autistic boy will likely need my support when he's a teen). You might have a point about the leisure centre providing family changing facilities, but focusing on ages and sexes is not the way to go.

No, sorry, autism does not mean a 13 yo boy can be in the women’s changing rooms.

And it’s not about what any male ‘needs’. It’s about the respect and safety for women and girls.

coxesorangepippin · 13/05/2024 01:19

Just to clarify, he was the Rambo on the treadmill without a shirt?

Who's then in the women's change rooms?

Kitkat1523 · 13/05/2024 01:16

anonai · 12/05/2024 23:29

YABU. I get it was an uncomfortable situation but autism means different things for different people. Perhaps this young person isn't capable of getting changed independently and so needed his mum's support (I know my autistic boy will likely need my support when he's a teen). You might have a point about the leisure centre providing family changing facilities, but focusing on ages and sexes is not the way to go.

No autism diagnosis should factor in this….these were female changing rooms …the 13 year old is male….he should not be in these changing rooms….end of …..take your kid to a family changing area

Fifipop185 · 12/05/2024 23:56

YANBU. My DS is autistic and almost 18. He has communication issues and struggles to dry or dress himself fully and needs support.

Our local pool doesn't have family changing areas, so we don't go there. We travel much further away where the changing rooms are unisex and have huge family stalls.

It would be so much easier and cheaper to be able to visit the local pool but DS pretty much a fully grown man and it would be hugely inappropriate for him to enter a female changing area.

JohnnyLuLus · 12/05/2024 23:54

SherlockHomies · 12/05/2024 23:46

Being the weekend, the only staff on reception were young weekend staff

And what did you say to them about it?

I asked them what the age for the gym was and what the age limit for taking children into opposite sex changing rooms was. They said 16 for the gym and they didn't know about changing rooms.

There is cctv in reception showing the pool, so I said that this particular parent (on the screen) had taken her son into the women's changing room, and as he was in the gym I can only presume that he must be over 16.

They said they weren't sure on the changing room rules, so I said I'd take it up with their manager.

Is that okay for you?

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SherlockHomies · 12/05/2024 23:46

Being the weekend, the only staff on reception were young weekend staff

And what did you say to them about it?

JohnnyLuLus · 12/05/2024 23:43

misszebra · 12/05/2024 23:34

you are not being unreasonable at all. I would be absolutely furious, he is autistic - not blind.

I wished I'd said that!

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JohnnyLuLus · 12/05/2024 23:40

PiggieWig · 12/05/2024 23:37

This is why I think there should be unisex changing areas instead of just male and female. A shared space that people could opt in and out would save so much difficulty.

Do you mean with individual changing cubicles? I'm happy with that and use those when we are elsewhere, but this particular place is individual sex, open-plan changing.

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JohnnyLuLus · 12/05/2024 23:37

Whatisgoingonheredear · 12/05/2024 23:35

YANBU. People may not like my wording, but somebody being autistic is not an excuse for a potential safety issue for a young girl or others. Totally inappropriate. If he can't get changed on his own then they should go somewhere than has a private space for them to use.

This is one of those times where autism is inappropriately used as an excuse and it isn't fair to other autistic individuals to be tarred with this brush.

Edited

No worries you edited your post! Confusion cleared up!

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PiggieWig · 12/05/2024 23:37

This is why I think there should be unisex changing areas instead of just male and female. A shared space that people could opt in and out would save so much difficulty.

Whatisgoingonheredear · 12/05/2024 23:35

YANBU. People may not like my wording, but somebody being autistic is not an excuse for a potential safety issue for a young girl or others. Totally inappropriate. If he can't get changed on his own then they should go somewhere than has a private space for them to use.

This is one of those times where autism is inappropriately used as an excuse and it isn't fair to other autistic individuals to be tarred with this brush.

misszebra · 12/05/2024 23:34

you are not being unreasonable at all. I would be absolutely furious, he is autistic - not blind.

NerrSnerr · 12/05/2024 23:33

If this gym doesn't provide a disabled or family changing room then they need to go elsewhere. It's not fair on the women and girls but also hugely undignified for him too.

JohnnyLuLus · 12/05/2024 23:33

anonai · 12/05/2024 23:29

YABU. I get it was an uncomfortable situation but autism means different things for different people. Perhaps this young person isn't capable of getting changed independently and so needed his mum's support (I know my autistic boy will likely need my support when he's a teen). You might have a point about the leisure centre providing family changing facilities, but focusing on ages and sexes is not the way to go.

My autistic son also needs support at 13. But if a male family member can't come with us then we either don't swim or we swim at the local leisure centre with family changing, rather than at the leisure club. I would never take him into a woman's changing room. He's autistic, yes, but he's still a teenage boy.

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AnnieSF · 12/05/2024 23:32

A teenage boy with needs should be using a family facility with his mother and not in a female changing area.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 12/05/2024 23:30

anonai · 12/05/2024 23:29

YABU. I get it was an uncomfortable situation but autism means different things for different people. Perhaps this young person isn't capable of getting changed independently and so needed his mum's support (I know my autistic boy will likely need my support when he's a teen). You might have a point about the leisure centre providing family changing facilities, but focusing on ages and sexes is not the way to go.

That's still not an excuse to invade women's changing areas.

anonai · 12/05/2024 23:29

YABU. I get it was an uncomfortable situation but autism means different things for different people. Perhaps this young person isn't capable of getting changed independently and so needed his mum's support (I know my autistic boy will likely need my support when he's a teen). You might have a point about the leisure centre providing family changing facilities, but focusing on ages and sexes is not the way to go.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 12/05/2024 23:29

YANBU for flagging this up but do at least give them a chance to sort it out.

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