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If you own a ranger rover

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Yesfrepp · 12/05/2024 21:52

Is it on finance? Just wondering how many people actually buy then outright? They are my dream car and although I could finance a monthly payment I could never buy one outright! How much do you have to earn for that?! I’m on 89k for context

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Macbeff · 13/05/2024 13:34

It’s worth thinking about but would a simpler alternative be digging a pit in your back garden, throwing in money, and then setting light to it? It comes to the same thing anyway and far fewer people will call you a wanker on Mumsnet.

OnePeachCrow · 13/05/2024 13:34

Heatherbell1978 · 12/05/2024 22:04

God I hate them. Judging by the people driving them where I live, yes they're leased and it seems standard that if you own one you're entitled to park in a disabled space, a double yellow, a parent and child space and genuinely just think you're above everyone else.

Also from what I can see they don't have indicators. Or at least nobody uses them!

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 13/05/2024 13:31

Stoufer-111000 miles is nothing, don’t worry about it. I’ve had cars that have done 198k.

People seem to think there is a magical change that happens at 100k which means the car is going to break and never be reliable again. That’s just not the case anymore.

Stoufer · 13/05/2024 13:29

Heatherbell1978 · 13/05/2024 13:18

Another thing I don’t understand is why people prioritise buying a very expensive car (sometimes in a very expensive way) over paying down their mortgage, or improving their home, or moving to a bigger home - as surely the home is more important? (You spend much more time in it, and it is also potentially an asset that will increase in value, compared to a car). I am not being offensive (it’s each to their own, really), I am just really really intrigued by it, and very curious to find out why people have these priorities

Cars are status symbols. People buy cars like these to feel bigger and better about themselves and try to portray wealth and success. No-one knows if you're mortgage free or have a huge pension pot so this isn't prioritised if the name of the game is to impress. It's the smart people who put their money into an appreciating asset and save for their future.

I suspect the car industry is largely to blame for this - all of the huge marketing budgets, with ads showing gorgeous looking people in super-expensive clothes driving super-expensive cars… I find it very depressing. Our car has now done over 111,000 miles - and is still going strong and not costing much at all in repairs each year. But it does look like a state though (lots of dings on the body - oops!). So while I find it quite embarrassing to drive (it is always the worst car parked on the street / in the car park / near the school), it just feels incredibly wasteful to upgrade it whilst it is still working, even if it is embarrassing! And by not replacing it until it dies, it means we can support our eldest dc at uni (as he would be likely to end up paying tens of thousands of pounds (if not hundreds of thousands of pounds) in student loan repayments over his working life.

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 13/05/2024 13:27

Ginmonkeyagain · 13/05/2024 08:12

@Willyoujustbequiet I dunno, all of my farming relatives (including my dad) seem to manage to feed their animals without ever owning a range rover. They have these things call tractors you see.

Real farmers see range rovers as the domain of wannabes and idiots in brand new tweeds from the city. As any fule kno, proper rural people have tractors and a range of odd cars in inreasing states of decay!

Anyway I now libe in SE London to answer the OP, drug dealdrs - that is who can afford to buy a range rover outright in our area.

We bought a real farmers car many years ago. A Citroen ZX estate that smelt like a camels bum hole! That thing had been serviced every year though and never wanted for anything mechanically!

OP-they’re pretty much universally known as wanker wagons!

AlpineMuesli · 13/05/2024 13:20

Just steal one op, it sounds very easy 😂

Heatherbell1978 · 13/05/2024 13:18

Another thing I don’t understand is why people prioritise buying a very expensive car (sometimes in a very expensive way) over paying down their mortgage, or improving their home, or moving to a bigger home - as surely the home is more important? (You spend much more time in it, and it is also potentially an asset that will increase in value, compared to a car). I am not being offensive (it’s each to their own, really), I am just really really intrigued by it, and very curious to find out why people have these priorities

Cars are status symbols. People buy cars like these to feel bigger and better about themselves and try to portray wealth and success. No-one knows if you're mortgage free or have a huge pension pot so this isn't prioritised if the name of the game is to impress. It's the smart people who put their money into an appreciating asset and save for their future.

Lonelycrab · 13/05/2024 13:17

@Peachy2005 that just sounds like an incredibly poorly engineered vehicle tbh, how can they possibly charge so much for something so badly conceived?!?

My Honda has done 60k miles over 7 years and literally just needed a single change of tyres and a few quid of oil every year or so. Absolutely nothing else.

Peachy2005 · 13/05/2024 13:13

Forgot to say bought ours outright secondhand from a Land Rover garage in 2015, it was a 2010 model.

I wouldn’t buy another one but it was great when the kids were little and we all still love it. If I can ever get the replacement parts to fix it, I’ll be getting rid of it as soon as possible!

Peachy2005 · 13/05/2024 13:02

@Eyesopenwideawake Do not buy one…I love mine, it’s so comfortable and a joy to drive but everything is difficult. Checking the oil, not simple - have to drive for a while to get the engine up to heat, then park it somewhere flat, set timer for 10 minutes, then do the check oil procedure being careful not to accidentally touch any of the foot pedals or you’ll have to start the process all over again. It doesn’t tell you if it’s low on oil and nobody ever told me about this procedure till I had needed 2 new timing chains in 2 years, costing thousands each time. Every little thing costs several hundreds if not thousands. Leaks that are massively difficult to diagnose and fix, needing multiple visits to workshop. Everything is difficult to access for mechanics so it’s really difficult to get work scheduled and takes ages to get anything done as they always have to lift the engine block and their arms get ripped to shreds trying to reach inaccessible bolts etc.

The weight is so heavy that you get massive wear and tear on tyres, brakes, suspension (bushes?) - all costing megabucks compared to other cars and needing replacement more frequently.

Currently my RRS is effectively undriveable because it needs two parts (ACE system pipes) that Land Rover can't supply (and no prospect of supplying them) and you can’t use 2nd hand parts for. If I have to drive it, it needs the ACE reservoir filled up twice per day, the fluid costs £32 per bottle and 2 refills is half the bottle. Plus everywhere you go/park, it’s shedding the fluid on the roads/parking spots.

Honestly I would pick something else unless you are into cars and can do some of the maintenance work yourself!

Obi73 · 13/05/2024 12:57

I own one - Medium sized deposit from trading in my previous vehicle and 3 year financial commitment but worth it. I live rurally and it was a godsend when we had snow earlier this year. Not going to lie, I love my Range Rover.

AgathaCrisspy · 13/05/2024 12:53

They are my DPs dream car, too… I have to remind him of the running costs, tyres, Road tax, parking the damn tank thing etc, etc…. If that doesn’t work, I resort to threats of violence, sex bans and dog-walking duties😆

I imagine they are a joy on motorway runs, rough terrain and such, but not for tootling to work and supermarket parking bays.

And I always imagine I’d look like Princess Anne if I drove it!

DdraigGoch · 13/05/2024 12:52

iamtheblcksheep · 13/05/2024 12:03

I own mine. Don’t buy a brand new one it’s madness. You can get a good 2015 plate for not a huge amount of money. I have three at the moment. A 2021, 2015 and a 2008. I use them all for different things. They are stolen but a good garage will pull out the technology used to steal the new ones and replace.

Trust me when some twat in their financed metal tin the size of a shoe box can’t decide which lane they’re in, you’ll feel so much safer than in some little noddy car.

I’d rather be called a wanker by 500 people on her than be in hospital or worse because of someone else’s poor decision

So it's an arms race to get the biggest car so that you come off better in an accident? All at the expense of vulnerable road users (pedestrians, cyclists, horses)

Gems2k · 13/05/2024 12:27

Sorry further to my previous post, both of ours are second hand.

Gems2k · 13/05/2024 12:27

My husband and I have 2 range rovers, a sport and an evoque. It’s not just the monthly payments you have to think about it’s the running costs. I love both of ours they really are lovely cars. Insurance is incredibly high depending on where you live. In London you simply can’t get insurance for certain types of range rovers (most stolen vehicle in the UK). Also buy one from a garage and get a decent warranty. We bought one from an awful garage and it was a total lemon and they refused to take it back. Massive legal battle ensued. But our other ones we bought from a reputable garage and have had no problems. Good luck and enjoy your Range Rover.

LameyJoliver · 13/05/2024 12:22

iamtheblcksheep · 13/05/2024 12:03

I own mine. Don’t buy a brand new one it’s madness. You can get a good 2015 plate for not a huge amount of money. I have three at the moment. A 2021, 2015 and a 2008. I use them all for different things. They are stolen but a good garage will pull out the technology used to steal the new ones and replace.

Trust me when some twat in their financed metal tin the size of a shoe box can’t decide which lane they’re in, you’ll feel so much safer than in some little noddy car.

I’d rather be called a wanker by 500 people on her than be in hospital or worse because of someone else’s poor decision

And I'd rather not be in hospital because the owner of a status symbol massive car has misjudged my tiny sensible car and smashed into me - or someone crossing the road

Stoufer · 13/05/2024 12:15

Not sure why I am posting on here (we have a 16 year old car that we have always owned outright, and bought it when it was two years old when it had halved in cost). I have never understood why people like to buy brand new cars, as the value of the car plummets for the first two years then levels off to a steady decline, so the best time to buy is surely when it has finished plummeting in value, ie at approx 2 years old? Maybe the cost/time graph is different now (second hand cars do seem more expensive than they used to be).

Another thing I don’t understand is why people prioritise buying a very expensive car (sometimes in a very expensive way) over paying down their mortgage, or improving their home, or moving to a bigger home - as surely the home is more important? (You spend much more time in it, and it is also potentially an asset that will increase in value, compared to a car). I am not being offensive (it’s each to their own, really), I am just really really intrigued by it, and very curious to find out why people have these priorities.

OneTC · 13/05/2024 12:06

I do like them but I also like other people so I wouldn't own one

iamtheblcksheep · 13/05/2024 12:03

I own mine. Don’t buy a brand new one it’s madness. You can get a good 2015 plate for not a huge amount of money. I have three at the moment. A 2021, 2015 and a 2008. I use them all for different things. They are stolen but a good garage will pull out the technology used to steal the new ones and replace.

Trust me when some twat in their financed metal tin the size of a shoe box can’t decide which lane they’re in, you’ll feel so much safer than in some little noddy car.

I’d rather be called a wanker by 500 people on her than be in hospital or worse because of someone else’s poor decision

Nolongera · 13/05/2024 12:02

I am sure I read that most new cars are leased now, I knew someone on 25k a year who had a decent Audi, his payments were such he struggled to pay for petrol.

I know people who would work 3 or 4 extra night shifts a month just to be able to afford an expensive car that they will never own.

Balls to that, life's too short.

IItisymoi · 13/05/2024 12:01

I REALLY miss my Landrover 'Defender' which shared many mechanical parts from the first Range Rovers but at least you can hose down the inside.
Landrover (the company ) had a head in the sand approach to design and reliabiliity and managed to 'mess up' on all the GOOD ideas that early users found useful but were badly implemented. I drove my '90' (as it was) for 34 years, and I miss it more than my 'Ex'. Like many companies, british management had good ideas but fall when it comes to reliability and development. Repair my '90' I only needed some oil and a medium hammer.

Soigneur · 13/05/2024 11:59

Many are leased, often by people who can barely afford to do so. The number of them with bald tyres is very telling - you can easily spend over £1000 on a full set and they REALLY eat tyres due to being so heavy.

frankentall · 13/05/2024 11:56

Bumblebee907 · 13/05/2024 11:54

Chelsea tractor.

Wow! how original.

Bumblebee907 · 13/05/2024 11:54

Chelsea tractor.

frankentall · 13/05/2024 11:53

Masses of ignorance on this thread, but also a bit of a daft question. Range Rovers have been available since 1970 in a range of forms - so it's nuts to make such crazy generalisations.

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