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Could my adult son really have ADHD?

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ADHDposs · 12/05/2024 21:02

Hi all. Posting here for traffic.

I have a son who is 28. He is just lovely, such a good man. He’s incredibly brainy. Has a Masters degree in a complicated subject. He has a very technical job. He also has a lovely girlfriend and is doing very well in life.

The last time we met up for dinner, he told me he’d been seeing a therapist, because he felt he had personality traits which were annoying him. I was quite shocked as this is the first I’ve heard of it. Anyway, he then went on to say that the therapist said he ticks a lot of ADHD boxes and she’s going to arrange an assessment.

I was quite shocked as he was an entirely normal child. The only thing I have noticed which seems out of step with other people, is that he is an information sponge. He reads all the time and retains thousands of facts. When we meet I often feel like I’m just being bombarded with facts about anything and everything, often things that have no relevance to me. I try to change the conversation to things more relevant or fun, but before long he is finding some way to turn that into some kind of statistic he can tell me about.

Is this an ADHD trait?

Thanks for reading!

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BeatsAntique · 20/08/2024 23:09

I was diagnosed about 10 years ago, after my own DC was diagnosed after their school recommended it. Many of the things the psychiatrist DC saw resonated with me and I followed up. It manifests very differently in women and girls, and people always assume it’s about physical hyperactivity and that’s not always the case.

My parents were very much ‘don’t say anything, you’ll be stigmatised’ but being assessed, diagnosed and subsequently appropriately medicated has made an extraordinary difference to my life.

If he’s saying it’s an issue, believe him. It’s his life and his health.

secseemama · 20/08/2024 23:04

ADHDposs · 12/05/2024 21:02

Hi all. Posting here for traffic.

I have a son who is 28. He is just lovely, such a good man. He’s incredibly brainy. Has a Masters degree in a complicated subject. He has a very technical job. He also has a lovely girlfriend and is doing very well in life.

The last time we met up for dinner, he told me he’d been seeing a therapist, because he felt he had personality traits which were annoying him. I was quite shocked as this is the first I’ve heard of it. Anyway, he then went on to say that the therapist said he ticks a lot of ADHD boxes and she’s going to arrange an assessment.

I was quite shocked as he was an entirely normal child. The only thing I have noticed which seems out of step with other people, is that he is an information sponge. He reads all the time and retains thousands of facts. When we meet I often feel like I’m just being bombarded with facts about anything and everything, often things that have no relevance to me. I try to change the conversation to things more relevant or fun, but before long he is finding some way to turn that into some kind of statistic he can tell me about.

Is this an ADHD trait?

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Sometimeswinning · 14/05/2024 17:37

IbisDancer · 14/05/2024 09:26

Sorry was that second bit towards yourself? As you were the one writing judgey stereotypes regarding ADHD; which is why several posters have had issues with what you wrote and tried to better inform you on ADHD:

”Because people can’t have certain quirks or behaviour anymore. It has to have a label. That label is always adhd and here is some medication which you pay for monthly to help.”- you said ADHD is just a label for quirks

“I see adhd everyday. I recognise it and see how it is just impossible for children with adhd to sit still, not be distracted and be constantly on the go. I also see parents insisting their child has it when it’s just a crux for them to explain away behaviour. Just because the diagnoses is so big now and so wide spread does not mean everyone has it and needs the label or the medication.”

  • you repeated the most common stereotypical behaviour of ADHD and implied anyone not matching this, it is just a label for a crutch to explain away behaviour.

All I and others have done is call you out on your judgey stereotypes. Hth

Yes you’ve just repeated what has been said already and I have answered that point.

Read through the thread before commenting next time. Hth.

IbisDancer · 14/05/2024 09:29

Tippexy · 13/05/2024 08:02

In the SEN Code of Practice it is listed under ‘social, emotional and mental health needs.’

Ok? ADHD is still not a mental health condition.

IbisDancer · 14/05/2024 09:26

Sometimeswinning · 13/05/2024 06:53

Well I’ve been honest and answered everything you threw at me. A few other posters didn’t like it either 😂

Next time you disagree with someone don’t assume and make judgy, stereotypes. You were way off the mark.

Sorry was that second bit towards yourself? As you were the one writing judgey stereotypes regarding ADHD; which is why several posters have had issues with what you wrote and tried to better inform you on ADHD:

”Because people can’t have certain quirks or behaviour anymore. It has to have a label. That label is always adhd and here is some medication which you pay for monthly to help.”- you said ADHD is just a label for quirks

“I see adhd everyday. I recognise it and see how it is just impossible for children with adhd to sit still, not be distracted and be constantly on the go. I also see parents insisting their child has it when it’s just a crux for them to explain away behaviour. Just because the diagnoses is so big now and so wide spread does not mean everyone has it and needs the label or the medication.”

  • you repeated the most common stereotypical behaviour of ADHD and implied anyone not matching this, it is just a label for a crutch to explain away behaviour.

All I and others have done is call you out on your judgey stereotypes. Hth

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 14/05/2024 07:50

That's true of any condition though and not specific to neurodivergence. What was said in the post I commented on is that neurodiversity has to be reported to the DVLA and any insurance companies which is not the case.

MaidenheadRevisited · 13/05/2024 18:39

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 13/05/2024 18:26

You do not have to report neurodivergence to the DVLA or declare it to your insurer, it is not a reportable condition.

Not in itself, no, but you do have to report ADHD if it - or any medication you take for it - has a detrimental effect on your ability to drive safely.

Kentuckycriedfrickin · 13/05/2024 18:26

You do not have to report neurodivergence to the DVLA or declare it to your insurer, it is not a reportable condition.

Winetastingtimewasting · 13/05/2024 08:35

HopefullyHopping · 13/05/2024 07:23

It’s up to her son whether to be assessed/seek diagnosis. He has already sought therapy. As a 28 year old man, he can decide that for himself, mummy doesn’t get to decide.

You don’t have to disclose anything to your employer. Obviously it will help if you ask for any reasonable adjustments.

I think now it neurodiversity is requested to be disclosed to DVLA and insurance.
but hopefully the off set of access
to work/ reasonable adjustments in the work place would be beneficial

Tippexy · 13/05/2024 08:02

IbisDancer · 12/05/2024 23:28

@theeyeofdoe
Just to clarify, ADHD is not a mental health condition.
It is a type of neurodivergence.
Used to be classified as a “neurodevelopmental disorder”.

I am glad you mentioned how rigorous the assessment is, because many who are assessed are found to not have ADHD.

In the SEN Code of Practice it is listed under ‘social, emotional and mental health needs.’

HopefullyHopping · 13/05/2024 07:23

HFJ · 13/05/2024 07:08

Your son sounds like an amazing, brainy person with quirks and foibles. Does he need a diagnosis? If he get a diagnosis, will he be obliged to tell his employer?

It’s up to her son whether to be assessed/seek diagnosis. He has already sought therapy. As a 28 year old man, he can decide that for himself, mummy doesn’t get to decide.

You don’t have to disclose anything to your employer. Obviously it will help if you ask for any reasonable adjustments.

ICanFixHim · 13/05/2024 07:19

HFJ · 13/05/2024 07:08

Your son sounds like an amazing, brainy person with quirks and foibles. Does he need a diagnosis? If he get a diagnosis, will he be obliged to tell his employer?

There's lots of reasons to be assessed and it really pisses me off when people start talking about labels and why do they need a diagnosis.

Knowing why you struggle can be so helpful. People go through years of therapy thinking they're broken because it doesn't work.

People can struggle in jobs and relationships and not understand why.

Some might need medication. They might have been on various antidepressants which weren't helping in the way they hoped.

Some are in financial trouble because of impulsive spending, will make reckless decisions, overeat, thrill seeking, drink.

ADHD is so much more than losing things and lacking focus. It can be life destroying without understanding, support and treatment.

That might not be the case for the OP's son but the fact that he sought therapy in the first place indicates some of this might be true for him.

lollydu · 13/05/2024 07:15

He could be, although one of the pre-requisites for a diagnosis is evidence that is was an issue in childhood. I'm currently going through an adult diagnosis and the psychologist is interviewing my mum soon to discuss how I was as a child and it's evident in my school reports that it was an issue. My mum was on board as soon as I said I had concerns - she didn't know what ADHD was but as soon as I asked her about what I was like as a child and explained the difficulties she agreed it was something I should look into. I'm not saying he's definitely not if you found his childhood entirely normal, but just saying childhood is something they will explore as part of the diagnosis xx

HFJ · 13/05/2024 07:08

Your son sounds like an amazing, brainy person with quirks and foibles. Does he need a diagnosis? If he get a diagnosis, will he be obliged to tell his employer?

Sometimeswinning · 13/05/2024 06:53

IbisDancer · 12/05/2024 23:05

I didn’t invent your first post, which was highly dismissive of the existence of ADHD:
Honestly if look into it enough I have adhd. Oh and my dds probably do. Because people can’t have certain quirks or behaviour anymore. It has to have a label. That label is always adhd and here is some medication which you pay for monthly to help.

Saying you think you have ADHD because you had a chat with a ADHD friend isn’t very scientifically rigorous of you. ADHD isn’t a “quirk” that “has to have a label.”

Well I’ve been honest and answered everything you threw at me. A few other posters didn’t like it either 😂

Next time you disagree with someone don’t assume and make judgy, stereotypes. You were way off the mark.

Mama2many73 · 13/05/2024 00:26

ADHDposs · 12/05/2024 21:23

Thanks. I didn’t say anything about him being a normal child. I did say that he’s amazing whatever label anyone puts on him. I have some OCD traits but I do not label myself, I just get on with life.

Similar situation in our extended family. Our DNephew (29) is going for assessment and also my BiL (not related at all)who most definitely has some major common traits.
Some people don't want or need a diagnosis/label but others find it really useful, to understand their feelings/actions/quirks. Bil grew being told he was thick and he believed it. I think he now has some 'grief' over this for what his life could have been like with a childhood diagnosis and support.
I have a friend who works in the department where childhood ND assessments are processed. So many young people are applying for assessments the waiting lists are 3+ yrs.
Some people like your son will get on in life and achieve well, so others can find it difficult to believe they have any diagnosis. But with hindsight uou can often see little things in their childhood that could point in that direction. (I often have a young lad who can talk to me for 45 minutes about a single topic that he is interested such as lights on police cars/codes for different crimes/aeroplanes going over )

Cannotbeasked · 13/05/2024 00:16

Winetastingtimewasting · 12/05/2024 21:58

You describe him as lovely
often adhd are lovely , sometimes people pleasers
often highly empathetic
often fixed on a subject, then the next, then the next
often ‘ scatty’ forget important dates
loose things
interrupt
struggle with a sense of rejection (‘rejection sensitivity disorder)
sometimes sensitive sensory wise

This is my son who is a similar age . Absolutely beautiful inside and out. He is certain he has ADHD. Am supporting him to be diagnosed.
Benefit of hindsight but he displayed so many traits as a child/ teenager but the awareness just wasn’t there.
Quick edit,he was a very quiet,placid,intelligent toddler,didn’t fit the stereotype from the 90s ,I just thought he was lazy and disorganised as a teenager.

Psychoticbreak · 13/05/2024 00:10

@theeyeofdoe Never heard of connors but then I am not in the UK and I got my diagnosis as an adult in my 40's. I needed a referral letter from gp and then into the clinical psychologist with testing material, it was pages and pages of stuff and I cant think of the name and then two psychiatrist meetings one to discuss the diagnosis and another to discuss medication and all the other bits.

theeyeofdoe · 12/05/2024 23:49

Psychoticbreak · 12/05/2024 23:26

@theeyeofdoe your daughters psychiatrist did proper testing I am assuming? I am confused as you say it is a different process as an adult and then you say he came in from school with a print out.

As an adult I had to go for actual testing with a psychologist and a psychiatrist and it cost me in excess of 1k so not lower criteria at all just a different process.

So usually when you have a AHDH assessment you do an initial Connor's and then a secondary one. Which is then followed up by a psychiatrist.

@mossylog no it's changed - everyone now is ADHD (brackets explaining their condition) as the hyperactivity occurs in a certain region of the cortex, rather than them.

Psychoticbreak · 12/05/2024 23:37

@mossylog agreed and I find it very amusing with the hyper part as I think I am part sloth at the best of times.

mossylog · 12/05/2024 23:35

OP, your son sounds like a smart guy, and he's emotionally switched on enough to seek out a therapist. I wouldn't worry too much about this.

The diagnosis of Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder has had a lot of expansion, but not everyone who gets diagnosed is actually disordered (or particularly deficit or hyperactive).

A person is disordered if their habits or personality are interfering to seriously impact their life. The kind of personality traits that get you diagnosed as ADHD aren't all negative, and they won't always interfere with a person getting on in life. For some people, they really screw things up and their behaviour is disordered. Others, like the OP's son, are creative, intelligent, engaged, dynamic, and the flip-side of this is that they maybe struggle follow-through, routines, focusing on boring stuff etc.

Psychoticbreak · 12/05/2024 23:34

Technically the term 'normal' is actually masking if you look at the dictionary definition of the word : conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Thedogscollar · 12/05/2024 23:28

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/05/2024 22:28

Please stop using the word 'normal'. It's one of those weird words where no one wants to be 'normal' and no one wants to be 'abnormal'. It's bad either way.

Hallelujah.
What is 'normal' anyway?
It's a word that can mean anything you want it to mean.
My son was diagnosed ADHD when he was seven. He will be twenty four this year to me he is who he is, my son who happens to have ADHD.
Why do people feel qualified to label people according to their behaviour/ personality traits.

IbisDancer · 12/05/2024 23:28

@theeyeofdoe
Just to clarify, ADHD is not a mental health condition.
It is a type of neurodivergence.
Used to be classified as a “neurodevelopmental disorder”.

I am glad you mentioned how rigorous the assessment is, because many who are assessed are found to not have ADHD.

Guavafish1 · 12/05/2024 23:27

Autism ND ADHD is part of the normal social spectrum of humanity.

I have never come across a normal person.

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