To think Eurovision is no longer about the talent

I agree Sam Ryder was great. He could sing and great entertainer. We did well, was soo proud.

I'm old but I love Mahmood. There's so many great artists in Italy. I love Elodie too and of course Emma.

I'm also a huge fan of Pino Daniele. Just genius.
It's just great to hear something different from usual US scene. It's led me to search up other countries music too.
Yes Sanremo is very prestigious. They have a newcomer section as well established acts. I've not watched it though.

The Uk's entry was just sleazy. Who knew people wouldn't love the prison bathroom aesthetic 🤔

Seriously though, he had weak vocals and the song was forgettable and that's why we were nowhere near winning.

When we send decent acts, we get points (see Sam Ryder).

It's not a fix. And interestingly, I think the country's that leaned most heavily into sleaze were punished by the public vote (notably the UK and Spain). I think there are lessons to be learned from that.

Yes, Sanremo has become a recent fascination of mine! I started paying attention because of Mahmood. There are few Italian entries that I haven't enjoyed to be honest, they usually send something quality, the effort shows! But my second favourite, Emma Marrone, did terribly 😂Her vocals were pretty weak on the night , I'm sad to admit.

Sanremo is also pretty prestigious, right? So quality artists will put themselves forward. The UK did well in Eurovision the one year the act didn't act all apologetic and embarrassed about it. Sam Ryder behaved like it was a privilege to participate.

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You're right, Italy always sing in Italian. Also, the reason why they do so well is because they send artists from their national competition (Sanremo). This show, and the artist that compete there are shown in other European countries and those artists sell albums not just in their country.

I'm a bit biased but I think Angelina Mango is a great singer and her song should have done way better.

No one voting for Eurovision gives a shit about ww2.

Italy almost always sing in Italian and have been top 10 almost every year since they returned. Portugal won in Portuguese, no one speaks that.

Germany placed lower than deserved due to the absurd people who are STILL up in arms over the Second World War, if Russia was allowed to participate they would have the same unfair treatment.
Germany have placed in the Top 3 on 9 occasions and have won it twice (in 1982 and 2010).

Maybe, just maybe, them not placing as high as you felt they should is just a matter of your personal opinion not being shared by the rest of Europe and has nothing to do with WW2.

Yes, it is. It doesn't matter how 'common' those languages are.

It's been political as long as I can remember. It is sooo vulgar now though I stopped the kids watching. They had been excited after talking about it at school but it was just trashy

No, they don't. That's your circle. Everybody does not speak or understand French.

Ukraine and France spoke in their languages?

Amazingly op people have different opinions than you and don't vote the way you do. Shocking, I know.

I miss the days when you could actually hear different countries music in their own language. It always interested me to see the different cultures.

Now it's just all the same and mostly in English.

The politics are there as always. I think we are being harsh, I think if anything the singers are more talented than I remember.

Lastly, I think here in the Uk we pretty isolated from mainland Europe; most of our music influences come from US; we aren't very good with other languages but countries in Europe are more open to each others music and stars. So you will find that some of the artists that attend Eurovision are already known across Europe so they more likely to be voted.

The voting in Eurovision has always been political - I can remember my parents complaining about it as far back as the early 1960s. Occasionally a reasonable song does win, but as long as we have appalling talentless people like the man who represented the UK last night, we will never win again. We've had some pretty dreadful UK entries over the years but I think last nights was probably the worst I've ever heard.

Yabu for only just realising - it's been this way for close to 20 years.

This was Germany. Nothing special. I voted France. But liked all the top 5 songs.

It was literally never about the talent?

France was the best. A good song, really well sung. No gimmicks.

Amen to that. And I also liked Latvia for the same sort of reasons.

I've just realised I typed men with 'oiled buttons.' Obviously I meant buttocks.

I agree - how dare we send in a boring song, sung in a very mediocre way, staged in a public bog, and then complain that people are not voting for it because they don't like us as a country.

I understand Israel did complain about Bambie's performance not being 'appropriate' (because of the 'adult' and scary content, not because of the pro-Palestine messages) - I don't know if that got anywhere, if true.

Slightly off-topic, but I'm always amazed that the contest doesn't start until 9pm and then goes on until 1am, in the vast majority of Europe. I wonder who first decided on that?

@misszebra It never had been.