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To go from a £500/m mortgage to a £2800/m mortgage?

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badatdecisions · 11/05/2024 16:47

My partner and I have been looking at buying a bigger house for years, but we're so picky about the area and what we want that there's literally been about 3 properties that we've been interested in enough to go and look at.

Recently one has come up that we both love - it's not quite perfect, but it's the closest we'll ever get to what we want in our budget I think, and there's lots to love.

However, I'm very nervous now about such a huge mortgage jump, as we're currently on a low interest rate on a very small house, lived there years, will have fully paid it off in the next 3 years and would be "free" to travel or do whatever we want as we're self-employed and can work from anywhere. We are mid/late 30s, no kids or plans for kids.

We were considering keeping our current house as it's nearly paid off (I know there's stamp duty to think about with 2 properties), as when I was growing up my parents lost our lovely family home and it's made me really paranoid about losing another home by taking on a huge mortgage, so at least we'd have a house we love to go back to if needed?

Mortgage broker says we're eligible for a bigger mortgage than the house we're looking at buying, but to be honest the thought of that much more debt terrifies me. Our business is profitable every month (touch wood), but we have a team of staff and salaries to pay, and that's our priority - plus having enough of a nest egg in the business to cover several months of them and anything else that may come up without needing to worry.

We also love our current house, it's near lots of our friends, it's not overlooked, it's very convenient, we have lots of great memories of our pets there, it's just feeling too small for us really, plus the area isn't as good as it once was and one of our neighbours is annoyingly nosy/intrusive.

Our life at the moment is very chilled, we're lucky to not have to worry about money because our costs are low (no debt) and very easy to reduce outgoings if we wanted (e.g. not eating out as much).

Would you go for the lovely unique forever home or opt for an easy life and travel/wait to move until house is paid off?

AIBU - buy it
Not - don't buy it

OP posts:
Hereyoume · 12/05/2024 08:23

Jesus OP, please DON'T.

You can do so much more with the money. Invest, make your money work for you and buy your "dream" home with the profits. You can do a lot of investing and growth with 2k a month.

Trust me, when the roof needs replacing on that "dream", and the quotes are 30k, and after that you find out that it needs replastering because the roof work cracked the old plaster, and that's a 10k bill, your dream will turn into a nightmare.

DiscoBeat · 12/05/2024 08:13

In your situation I would keep the current house until paid off, then rent it out and buy something else. Always the option then to return to current status if anything unforeseen happens.

WaltzingWaters · 12/05/2024 07:36

Personally if I didn’t have kids to look after and have enough space for I’d absolutely keep the smaller house (almost) mortgage free and do lots of travelling. But I love travelling!

TomeTome · 12/05/2024 07:30

Pay off mortgage 1, rent it the property, buy property 2, use rent to reduce mortgage payments. Seems very straightforward to me.

justasking111 · 12/05/2024 07:18

sunnydayhereandnow · 12/05/2024 04:52

If your calculations all include keeping your current property, you’re in a great position as you can always sell it if needed. And if you do sell you current place, with that much equity in your new home you don’t need to worry about worst case scenarios where you can’t pay the mortgage as in the worst case you could always sell and use the equity to buy something smaller.

I think you should put aside nostalgia and think practically: What rental income will your current home bring in? Can you offset that against the new mortgage? Is it financially a better option than selling?

I’d personally be in favour of selling the current property though. Even though it’s an emotional wrench at the time, my own experience is that you don’t actually miss your previous place as much as you think you will, and I prefer to close that chapter of my life rather than dealing with tenants and how they don’t treat the place exactly as I would have. You will have memories and photos but it’s time to move on.

It sounds very lettable, down by the canal, professional couple you should clear £500 a month profit. That can go towards your new mortgage.

SlothsNeverGetIll · 12/05/2024 06:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/05/2024 01:05

It’s probably because they have no children they can afford a big house, why would a couple with a high income not live in a large house in a lovely location, what’s the point of having money otherwise if not to improve your living standards? such a bizarre attitude that people without children even if they have a high income, should live in a 2 up 2 down their whole lives.

I only know the immense freedom it's given DH and me that we've maintained low fixed monthly outgoings right into our 40s, and how comparatively harder and more restrictive friends' lives look when they're servicing high fixed monthly outgoings. But hey, we're all different.

sunnydayhereandnow · 12/05/2024 04:52

If your calculations all include keeping your current property, you’re in a great position as you can always sell it if needed. And if you do sell you current place, with that much equity in your new home you don’t need to worry about worst case scenarios where you can’t pay the mortgage as in the worst case you could always sell and use the equity to buy something smaller.

I think you should put aside nostalgia and think practically: What rental income will your current home bring in? Can you offset that against the new mortgage? Is it financially a better option than selling?

I’d personally be in favour of selling the current property though. Even though it’s an emotional wrench at the time, my own experience is that you don’t actually miss your previous place as much as you think you will, and I prefer to close that chapter of my life rather than dealing with tenants and how they don’t treat the place exactly as I would have. You will have memories and photos but it’s time to move on.

SilentConversation · 12/05/2024 02:44

I’d go for it. You’ve been looking for a while and you’ve described it as near perfect. I think you’ll kick yourself if you don’t go for it.

If anything goes wrong, you can downsize or go back to the property you’re currently in if you can keep it. Can you rent it out?

I really value having a nice home though and I’d have sacrificed holidays for it, if it would ever have come to that.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/05/2024 01:05

SlothsNeverGetIll · 11/05/2024 22:31

As a couple without kids, why would you saddle yourselves with this much baggage when you dont need to? Keep your cheap house!
Have the last 4 years taught you nothing?!

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It’s probably because they have no children they can afford a big house, why would a couple with a high income not live in a large house in a lovely location, what’s the point of having money otherwise if not to improve your living standards? such a bizarre attitude that people without children even if they have a high income, should live in a 2 up 2 down their whole lives.

AldaCry · 11/05/2024 22:57

I wouldn't make too many sacrifices for the house. The important things in life are experiences. I don't find saving on food to pay off mortgages a great idea... all it takes is one unexpected event and things can go really wrong.

TeenLifeMum · 11/05/2024 22:54

SlothsNeverGetIll · 11/05/2024 22:31

As a couple without kids, why would you saddle yourselves with this much baggage when you dont need to? Keep your cheap house!
Have the last 4 years taught you nothing?!

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As a couple with no kids, why wouldn’t you take a little risk and live somewhere you love? your home is where you are every day so live where you feel happiest.

TeenLifeMum · 11/05/2024 22:52

I’d do it - living where you want to live is money well spent and if you need to, you can downsize. I guess the small property would be an investment but I think I’d sell that so I have a larger down payment and mortgage would reduce. If your situation changed, you could sell the expensive property and still afford something smaller… or sell in 20 years and retire early.

SlothsNeverGetIll · 11/05/2024 22:31

As a couple without kids, why would you saddle yourselves with this much baggage when you dont need to? Keep your cheap house!
Have the last 4 years taught you nothing?!

justasking111 · 11/05/2024 22:23

@badatdecisions how much is the stamp duty, is it higher in England?

Nottherealslimshady · 11/05/2024 22:04

God no. I'd rather spend that money on living. There must be something between the two.

Elephantswillnever · 11/05/2024 21:46

Buy a house boat and put it on the mooring. Use for hobbies and holidays.

Jmaho · 11/05/2024 21:32

@TemuSpecialBuy no their net profit is that much but they are leaving a lot in the business. They're only taking out a fraction of this as income so net pay is around 4 to 5 grand a month. But do agree that they can easily afford the new mortgage

Maryamlouise · 11/05/2024 21:27

I don't think I would and in fact doing the opposite just now, moving from what was supposed to be forever home to something a little smaller and much much cheaper. But that is my priorities which are to have less stress and work and more money to enjoy life. It does sound like your current house isn't right though and I think you would miss it much less than you think - I am a bit sad at leaving our house with all the baby memories but I still have those memories and now it is actually going ahead I am so excited

TemuSpecialBuy · 11/05/2024 21:18

For those who missed it....

Their NET take home pay is 15-20k per month.

The mortgage will actually only be £1800 it would only be 2800 if they dont sell the current house....

Their new "massive" mortgage would be approx 10% of their take home.

conservatively their disposable income would be £10k per month with the new mortgage (in reality prob higher)

DragonFly98 · 11/05/2024 21:10

How can a house be too small for two adults that makes no sense at all.

BreadAhoy · 11/05/2024 20:04

I’d probably stay put. But I’m interested to know what your business is! Sounds like you’ve built up a fantastic business to be so profitable, well done!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/05/2024 20:04

I understand not wanting to leave the house where your beloved pets lived with you 💔 what’s the house like you are thinking of buying?

Annielou67 · 11/05/2024 20:00

If you can afford it and still afford a reasonable lifestyle go for it. If things get too difficult you can always sell or rent out your first property.

ApiratesaysYarrr · 11/05/2024 19:59

If you pay £500/month and you have around 3 years to pay off, then you owe around £18 000. If you are making £15-20k profit each month from your business and using about £5k, you could pay your motgage off within 2 months easily. If you have £10k spare per month, that's £120k per year savings. Just how big and expensive is this house you are thinking about buying that you will need a £2800 /month mortgage?

Tickytocky · 11/05/2024 19:53

No one but yourselves can answer this as only you 2 know how much you value what you have verses what you want out of life going forward.
Only you know how risky or secure your business/industry is, and what your risk appetite is combined.

I personally think your current set up sounds lovely (nearly paid for, plus moorings !). I hate risk, I hate debt, I avoid all anxiety wherever possible, and I love to travel, so I wouldn’t buy the big house.

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