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How the erosion of LGBT rights effects female sex based rights.

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needatalk · 11/05/2024 10:38

I've been reading various discussions and articles on this topic for some time and the conclusion that keeps popping up in my mind is the worry that my female rights will be as much eroded as LGBT rights in law.

I've seen a push in America especially Florida from activists and lawmakers, combining female and LGBT rights in the same grouping. In the UK, politicians are taking American policies. They are calling for diversity and equality to be dismantled in law. It's like time is going backwards in just on LGBT rights but on female sex based rights. Where less rights will exist for us females in the future to do subjects such as STEM or be Astronaut because of the stereotyping happening from suppose feminists who's concepts are the old typical stay at home leave the male to do the dangerous or go to work mentally.

My daughter is 8 years old and and I worry for her, to not able to have the right to do express herself as bisexual or lesbian because of erosion of LGBT rights. We all know homosexuality a long time ago was illegal and that can happen again for all LGBT rights. I worry that my daughter who loves space won't able to follow Rosemary Coogan become an astronaut which is something she dreams of because in the future people will say the radiation of space is too dangerous for females as they will get deformities in that area to prevent them for having babies or healthy babies. Science has disprove this but people are dismissing science now.

As much as I care and support about sex based rights, I can't forget the thought in my mind that my and my daughter's female rights are in as much danger of being taken away not by activists but by lawmakers who enforce sex based past stereotyping and us females lose equality which has been hard to fight for in the first place.

I'm so worried for the future for us females.

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needatalk · 11/05/2024 10:57

RandomButtons · 11/05/2024 10:41

“In the UK, politicians are taking American policies.”

evidence please. I’ve seen no attempts in the U.K. to criminalise abortion or deny LGB a place in society. If you see some of what’s happening in America it’s terrifying for women, lesbians and gays. I’ve not seen anything like that here.

I’ve deliberately left of the T there because thier rights are much more hotly contested and not established in the U.K.

‘Extreme’ US anti-abortion group ramps up lobbying in Westminster | Abortion | The Guardian - These groups don't want abortion available in the UK.

‘Extreme’ US anti-abortion group ramps up lobbying in Westminster

The UK branch of the Alliance Defending Freedom has increased its spending and is forging ties with key MPs

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/06/extreme-us-anti-abortion-group-ramps-up-lobbying-in-westminster

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SocksAndTheCity · 11/05/2024 10:57

Women, OP. Not 'females'.

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 11/05/2024 10:55

It is really hard to know what on earth you are talking about, OP. Either you have been too caught up in the batshit politics of the American right, or you are possibly posting in bad faith?

jeaux90 · 11/05/2024 10:55

OP I don't understand your post.

It's a bit more helpful if you give some examples.

LGB is also not the same as T.

There definitely is a backlash against the "born in the wrong body" ideology being taught to kids because it's anti science etc

I don't see a political backlash against LGB or Females apart from in the very republican states or the usual shitshow countries who are profoundly homophobic/misogynistic.

Peachoolongtea · 11/05/2024 10:53

sleepyscientist · 11/05/2024 10:42

Totally agree feminism used to be about equality and being the same as men. If MN is anything to go by it's now about enforcing old stereotypes that woman need to be protected and kept safe from big scary men. I'm currently laying on the sun lounger looking at the outdoor bar I need to finish.....husband wouldn't know where to start. I also worry for my son that it's going to become to risky to talk to woman as they will always be believed regardless of the evidence as they are soooo weak.

You think women don’t need to be protected from men?

ahagiraffe · 11/05/2024 10:53

In recent UK elections I saw no politicians campaigning on such grounds. The winning candidates in my area were certainly not pushing these ideologies. The US is very different to the UK politically ( and there are huge regional differences there too). Have you any examples of mainstream UK parties pushing anti-feminist policies? It would help me understand your concerns if you could provide some.

SplitFountainPen · 11/05/2024 10:52

sleepyscientist · 11/05/2024 10:42

Totally agree feminism used to be about equality and being the same as men. If MN is anything to go by it's now about enforcing old stereotypes that woman need to be protected and kept safe from big scary men. I'm currently laying on the sun lounger looking at the outdoor bar I need to finish.....husband wouldn't know where to start. I also worry for my son that it's going to become to risky to talk to woman as they will always be believed regardless of the evidence as they are soooo weak.

Equality is about equal opportunities, not about pretending the differences which cause the reduced opportunities in the first place don't exist.

What do you mean by your comment about women's safety? Do you not believe DV and SA statistics?

jeaux90 · 11/05/2024 10:51

sleepyscientist · 11/05/2024 10:42

Totally agree feminism used to be about equality and being the same as men. If MN is anything to go by it's now about enforcing old stereotypes that woman need to be protected and kept safe from big scary men. I'm currently laying on the sun lounger looking at the outdoor bar I need to finish.....husband wouldn't know where to start. I also worry for my son that it's going to become to risky to talk to woman as they will always be believed regardless of the evidence as they are soooo weak.

Look. You do know treating everyone the same is sometimes the most unfair thing to do?

Feminism isn't about equality for everyone, that is egalitarian, Feminism is a political movement to liberate women and girls from patriarchy based on our sex.

To get to the root of this you need to focus on the most vulnerable women in society. Women in prison, women who have been raped, women who are trafficked into the sex trade etc

So yes basic safeguarding applies here, away from men.

Hepwo · 11/05/2024 10:51

What do you mean by female OP?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 11/05/2024 10:46

What on Earth are you on about?

sleepyscientist · 11/05/2024 10:42

Totally agree feminism used to be about equality and being the same as men. If MN is anything to go by it's now about enforcing old stereotypes that woman need to be protected and kept safe from big scary men. I'm currently laying on the sun lounger looking at the outdoor bar I need to finish.....husband wouldn't know where to start. I also worry for my son that it's going to become to risky to talk to woman as they will always be believed regardless of the evidence as they are soooo weak.

RandomButtons · 11/05/2024 10:41

“In the UK, politicians are taking American policies.”

evidence please. I’ve seen no attempts in the U.K. to criminalise abortion or deny LGB a place in society. If you see some of what’s happening in America it’s terrifying for women, lesbians and gays. I’ve not seen anything like that here.

I’ve deliberately left of the T there because thier rights are much more hotly contested and not established in the U.K.

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