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U.K. Eurovision entry! A lot of pearl clutching

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Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:27

The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?)

I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers?

I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy!

So much pearl clutching!

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JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 12/05/2024 14:17

JammyJellyfish · 12/05/2024 14:16

The song was total rubbish, the performance embarrassing, unprofessional and lacked any artistry and even the singing was average.

Compare it to Ireland’s entry, which was not your typical euro pop offering, but had all the above in abundance.

it really deserved 0 points.

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Ireland's entry was HORRENDOUS!

JammyJellyfish · 12/05/2024 14:16

The song was total rubbish, the performance embarrassing, unprofessional and lacked any artistry and even the singing was average.

Compare it to Ireland’s entry, which was not your typical euro pop offering, but had all the above in abundance.

it really deserved 0 points.

yellous · 12/05/2024 14:15

NeedWineNow · 12/05/2024 13:19

I can't work out why the UK bother entering to be honest. We never seem to enter with a decent singer or song (except for Sam Ryder) and the voting has been politically biased for years. Seems to me a complete waste of money.

Ask if Linda Woodruff can represent you next year? She is Swedish but her dad is from London so technically it should work.

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 12/05/2024 14:14

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:34

Christ, if my kids turn out to be gay, I hope they can feel happy being themselves in a an accepting society 🤪

Agree. But our Eurovision entry was embarrassingly crap. The two things are not the same or dependent on one another OP 🤷🏻‍♀️

yellous · 12/05/2024 14:12

ShyPoet · 12/05/2024 14:09

@yellous it really was not sleazy, just not a good song.

It really was.

ShyPoet · 12/05/2024 14:09

@yellous it really was not sleazy, just not a good song.

yellous · 12/05/2024 13:47

ShyPoet · 12/05/2024 13:37

After reading this thread I was expecting the UK entry to be shocking. It wasn't. It was not a big deal at all, just a crap song.

It’s not shocking. It’s just sleazy and really bad.

ShyPoet · 12/05/2024 13:37

After reading this thread I was expecting the UK entry to be shocking. It wasn't. It was not a big deal at all, just a crap song.

NeedWineNow · 12/05/2024 13:19

I can't work out why the UK bother entering to be honest. We never seem to enter with a decent singer or song (except for Sam Ryder) and the voting has been politically biased for years. Seems to me a complete waste of money.

yellous · 12/05/2024 13:13

AmusedMaker · 12/05/2024 13:11

Yes, no flirty, tongue in cheek, playful cheekiness. The tone was completely off

agree.

the sexiest part of the entire show was when the Croatian lead singer winked at the camera.

That was a great song and great number! Made me smile.

yellous · 12/05/2024 13:11

Yes he’s openly gay - so what?

You honestly think that ANYONE watching Eurovision cares!? That is just a stupid thing to say.

My 79 year old dad voted for a man in a beautiful huge dress the other year, because that was the song and number he thought was best. This one got zero points for a reason. Switzerland won for a reason. Croatia had the people’s votes for a reason.

No stupid pearl clutching apart from in your own head op.

AmusedMaker · 12/05/2024 13:11

Yes, no flirty, tongue in cheek, playful cheekiness. The tone was completely off

agree.

the sexiest part of the entire show was when the Croatian lead singer winked at the camera.

yellous · 12/05/2024 13:04

Inkanta · 12/05/2024 12:44

I think also because it wasn’t even done well ..or ironic, arty or even with a sense of humour. It was just sleazy and embarrassing

Yes, no flirty, tongue in cheek, playful cheekiness. The tone was completely off.

It’s a wasted opportunity, people like me (not from the UK) won’t look up his other music.

Pootle23 · 12/05/2024 12:44

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:27

The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?)

I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers?

I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy!

So much pearl clutching!

So because it was a crap song, with staging that was also crap, everyone is “pearl clutching”.

He is gay, so what? He has to have his act in a seedy gross bathroom where everyone was expecting the late George Michael to turn up! The dancers I’m sure are very talented but let down by choreographer and costume designers! Since when has anyone wanted to see Olly in a grotty looking vest.

It was like most of the acts had run out of material, showing naked bodies for the sake of it, but it’s boring, it’s not overly shocking or exciting, just dull, like most of the met gala “stars”, it just looks naff.

If everything has gone so backwards in your eyes, why did Switzerland win?

Basically because Nemo did a fabulous performance, they showed how they choose to be with brilliant vocals, a catchy song and fantastic act.

Not everything on the planet is about whether a person is part of the LGBT community. Some things in life need some talent as well.

Olly did not perform anywhere near how he normally does, it was rubbish which is why it got zero public votes.

Inkanta · 12/05/2024 12:44

I think also because it wasn’t even done well ..or ironic, arty or even with a sense of humour. It was just sleazy and embarrassing

Yes, no flirty, tongue in cheek, playful cheekiness. The tone was completely off.

yellous · 12/05/2024 12:25

Inkanta · 12/05/2024 12:10

Yes! There is a time and a place and it's not in song contest - representing the UK.
Embarrassing crap it was.

I think also because it wasn’t even done well ..or ironic, arty or even with a sense of humour. It was just sleazy and embarrassing.

I mean Finland was not my taste, but it was still done in a good way and we laughed.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 12/05/2024 12:19

Notamum12345577 · 12/05/2024 09:44

It was a locker room, with showers, not a toilet. The video was sports based (I would say boxing) so hence the locker room

Why was it so dirty though? They were obviously implying something sleazy. If my gym had showers coveted in grime, I wouldn't even be having a shower in there, never mind dry humping! If it had been a glittery shower room, or even a spinning dance floor ( which would match with what the song was actually about) it would have been more appealing. To say that the audience of the campest show on telly is full of pearl clutching homophobes is laughable.

Inkanta · 12/05/2024 12:10

Janiie · 12/05/2024 11:39

'Many women would prefer to think that gay men are all sweetness and light and it’s only a tiny minority who have done anything seedy, but, ahem, you would be hard pushed to find one who hasn’t'

Couldn't give a rat's ass who has done anything seedy, however there is a time and a place and his desperate 'performance' had no place on a singing contest.

As a pp said eurovision is very pro LGBT so to get zero points must surely tell Alexander his embarrassing crap was just that. Embarrassing crap.

Yes! There is a time and a place and it's not in song contest - representing the UK.
Embarrassing crap it was.

PuppyMonkey · 12/05/2024 12:10

yellous · 12/05/2024 10:05

I’m not from the UK, but that was just really sleazy..not shocking, just bad. I can see why they got zero points.

This about sums it up for me. If that makes me a pearl clutcher, I’ll live with that.

QuantumPanic · 12/05/2024 11:56

Lokipokey1 · 11/05/2024 17:09

Also everyone keeps referencing It’s a Sin am I the only person who saw him in God Help the Girl?

I love this film. I still listen to the soundtrack.

FlakyPoet · 12/05/2024 11:54

I think the whole spinny thing with the set and camera moving around was really clever. And it did succeed in making me feel dizzy - which is the name of the song - very effective concept.

The performances of Alexander and the dancers were good too.

The song was weak though. There wasn’t an element of surprise or a sing-along section. It didn’t get points because there were better songs imo.

Also, there’s probably still an anti-British bias in the public voting, like when Sam Ryder won the judges vote for the first time in decades, the public vote swung the UK out of winning.

AuroraAnimal · 12/05/2024 11:51

The other poster saw a toilet because that suits her gay / cottaging rhetoric

Do me a favour. I saw a urinal because it looked like a urinal (to me).

Dirty toilet block, dirty shower room, it really doesn't make much difference. It was rank either way.

Quartz2208 · 12/05/2024 11:46

Given that the song that won was about the singers journey into identifying as non binary he can hardly blame that.

his vocals were poor as well

Longma · 12/05/2024 11:44

Why would there be taps in a shower room, though? No one washes their hands after having a shower!

Most have a sink with taps ime, at least just outside of the shower area. Where you can wash, do your hair.make up, clean teeth, etc. and wash hands.

Longma · 12/05/2024 11:43

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 12/05/2024 08:13

Why do PPs keep talking about toilets and urinals? The set was clearly a locker room / shower.
Lying about the details (or seeing what you want to see) to suit an agenda absolutely smacks of homophobia.

Yes, it did appear to be a shower room, rather than toilets. I'm sure there was a shower head as part of the set, and shown in screen. Not urinals or,toilets.

No idea why it needed to be so grubby and dirty looking though.

Bottom line for us was that the sing wasn't great and his vocals weren't good, at the semi finals or in the final. The staging and dance weren't as sexual/sleazy as I'd heard they were to be (didn't see the song during the semis, but heard it) - unless they'd toned the, done. Some suggestive bits (which tbh it fairly normal in Eurovision) but not as explicit as I'd been led to believe from the media.

It was never going to win as it wasn't a good song and his vocals weren't good enough.