Page 4 | U.K. Eurovision entry! A lot of pearl clutching

Colourofspring · 2024-05-11T07:27:25+00:00

The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?) I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers? I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy! So much pearl clutching!

yellous · 12/05/2024 18:56

gegs73 · 12/05/2024 18:47

Nothing to do with homophobia for me, it was just a bit shit. Performed in a grubby looking toilet with grubby costumes, boring song and he didn’t sing it that well. It was better when he came onto the stage proper, it sounded better 🤷‍♀️ I also spent the first 2 minutes thinking it was pre-recorded as it didn’t even seem to be on the main stage and wondering how they got away with that. Not offensive particularly, just a bit meh.

Even more meh if you were in the arena and couldn’t see the performance from most places in the audience.

They missed the mark completely, and even disrespected the paying audience.

gegs73 · 12/05/2024 18:47

Nothing to do with homophobia for me, it was just a bit shit. Performed in a grubby looking toilet with grubby costumes, boring song and he didn’t sing it that well. It was better when he came onto the stage proper, it sounded better 🤷‍♀️ I also spent the first 2 minutes thinking it was pre-recorded as it didn’t even seem to be on the main stage and wondering how they got away with that. Not offensive particularly, just a bit meh.

cornflakecrunchie · 12/05/2024 18:44

@PatsyStonesBeehive & @Hoppinggreen Couldn't agree more.

exaltedwombat · 12/05/2024 18:30

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight Don't take a gag line too seriously! (See what I did there?) :-)

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 12/05/2024 18:28

@exaltedwombat how was Olly being gay being pushed down your throat though?
It was no different to women twerking about sexually in pop videos.

tuvamoodyson · 12/05/2024 18:27

Hoppinggreen · 12/05/2024 18:19

Perhaps if they concentrated on making half decent music rathet than trying to out do eachother in the "who can be the most shockingly camp" stakes maybe we wouldnt keep churning out such shite music.
And its hardly shocking any more in any case, its all been done before

Exactly this! No-one is clutching their pearls….we’re just bored by it all.

exaltedwombat · 12/05/2024 18:25

No problem with anyone being gay, but if you want to push it down my throat, at least buy me dinner first! Eurovision wasn't always camp, of course. I do rather miss the days when it at least pretended to be a search for the best new song, performed by an established artiste. Now it just seems to be a rather desperate exercise in boundary-pushing. The British entry wasn't the best song of the year, it wasn't even the best song since lunchtime.

Hoppinggreen · 12/05/2024 18:19

Perhaps if they concentrated on making half decent music rathet than trying to out do eachother in the "who can be the most shockingly camp" stakes maybe we wouldnt keep churning out such shite music.
And its hardly shocking any more in any case, its all been done before

alittleprivacy · 12/05/2024 18:13

Pelsall116 · 12/05/2024 18:09

Yes I believe so in the light of the fact that we had hosted for the Ukraine and all the support we had given them

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The UK hosted the year after,2023, because they came second in 2022.

OneBadKitty · 12/05/2024 18:13

Funny how politics didn’t affect the votes when it was Sam Ryder!

Also, it’s irrelevant whether it was a shower room or urinals. My guess is that it was only set in a shower room because Olly couldn’t get the powers that be to agree to it being set in urinals

PatsyStonesBeehive · 12/05/2024 18:13

Big old dyke here (and a far from Puritanical one at that.) It's not homophobia. People (myself included) are just sick to fucking death of every single little thing being sexualised for shock value. It was fun for 10 seconds in the 90's when Madonna started the craze. Now she is a 65 year old gyrating on stage like a slag and snogging women (yawn). As for Olly, Sam Smith et al...you're better than this shit. Your voice is enough, we don't need your genitals as well!

yellous · 12/05/2024 18:10

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 12/05/2024 18:06

There we go .

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Not true. I’m in Sweden and we would have voted if we liked the song. We always go for UK in football etc.

Gingernan · 12/05/2024 18:09

I love Olly, he's a great singer and actor.Not crazy about the song or the complicated routine but couldn't give a fig that it's camp. And I can remember seeing Pearl and Teddy Johnson doing eurovision in the 50s with 'Sing little birdie'. It was really uncool then,at least it's a jolly bit of nonsense now,with politics though...

Pelsall116 · 12/05/2024 18:09

AhBiscuits · 12/05/2024 17:58

So why did Sam Ryder come second? They just decided to randomly let us off that year.

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Yes I believe so in the light of the fact that we had hosted for the Ukraine and all the support we had given them

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 12/05/2024 18:06

Pelsall116 · 12/05/2024 17:55

Eurovision long ceased to be anything about music and all about politics. Was anyone really surprised at nul points for UK from public vote? Nothing to do with the song and all to do with how we are perceived as a nation by others

There we go .

ilovepixie · 12/05/2024 18:06

When Cliff Richard first came on the scene the headline were Is this boy to sexy for television! People have always been outraged by something!

40andlovelife · 12/05/2024 18:02

It had proper dirty and filth vibes. Awful.

Gay equality being taken back 50 years with all this modern stuff

anon666 · 12/05/2024 18:00

It's funny because I'm resolutely not homophobic, amd i love Olly Alexamder, but I had to concede the crotch grabbing dancers were a bit tasteless, even for Eurovision.

I didn't notice it at first - am completrly desensitised to vulgarity it seems, but my husband was clutching his pearls a bit and then I kinda saw his point.

AhBiscuits · 12/05/2024 17:58

Pelsall116 · 12/05/2024 17:55

Eurovision long ceased to be anything about music and all about politics. Was anyone really surprised at nul points for UK from public vote? Nothing to do with the song and all to do with how we are perceived as a nation by others

So why did Sam Ryder come second? They just decided to randomly let us off that year.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 12/05/2024 17:57

NotJohnMajor · 12/05/2024 17:56

It's not a toilet if you look carefully, it's some sort of shower area. The thing on the wall that could be taken for a urinal is a hanging white towel.

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Yeah, I didn't see it as a toilet either.
Just a very grubby room in desperate need of a clean lol

NotJohnMajor · 12/05/2024 17:56

virgocatlover · 12/05/2024 17:39

I like Olly but why on earth did it have to be in a dirty toilet setting? Nothing to do with homophobia, I wouldn't like it whoever did it. Plus it actually made me feel dizzy. He is capable of something so much better and it's a shame.

It's not a toilet if you look carefully, it's some sort of shower area. The thing on the wall that could be taken for a urinal is a hanging white towel.

Pelsall116 · 12/05/2024 17:55

Eurovision long ceased to be anything about music and all about politics. Was anyone really surprised at nul points for UK from public vote? Nothing to do with the song and all to do with how we are perceived as a nation by others

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 12/05/2024 17:53

Just note that the winning song was about someone accepting their non binary status (without shoving their gender in your face).

I noted that. I'm not sure Graham did (he used "he" most of the time, although he did manage "they" a couple of times around their original performance).

Zzzmumzzz · 12/05/2024 17:52

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/05/2024 08:30

I'm 66. It hasn't always been camp and outrageous, all of that is relatively new. I'm not clutching my pearls, I'm just completely bored by it all, starting with Conchita Whatisname. Won't be watching. Camp stopped being funny with Kenneth Williams. Just boring now. (Rylan, are you listening?)

Totally agree with you

80schildhood · 12/05/2024 17:50

ShyPoet · 12/05/2024 17:07

@CRE2024 It was still legal to be sacked for being lesbian and gay. And people were.
I am glad you had an easy time. I assume you are pretty middle class in a professional job with your experiences?
I do agree homophobia is getting worse. I always knew it would as soon as there were all the attacks on transgender people.

Absolutely not. Especially not then. Lived in a poor area and worked in a pub.