U.K. Eurovision entry! A lot of pearl clutching

I like Spain's song! in a world where you can be young, younger, thin, body positive, gay, obviously gay, trans, non-binary, a cat, a vampire, it just makes a nice change to see a woman who is in her mid fifties. I love the video of all the older people in the club and the women are cheering and happy and the men are like tutt tutt! Go Spain.

The TRA movement is quite problematic for gay people - as they are same SEX attracted but it's 'transphobic' to demonstrate that by not dating people of the opposite sex.

I mean -come on - George Michael did it MUCH better almost 30 years ago (Jesus really !) with the video for Outside - so his routine is just a cheap copy.

It's an okay song - wont win - I'm not really bothered by the sex stuff - like Sam Smith it's all a bit 'look at me being sooooo outrageous' but it's hardly ground breaking.

It's not homophobic to find it a bit off - it's not to everyone's taste is all.

Yes what you said 😁

"The trans" 🙄
No, it's not going backwards because of people who are trans or drag queens.
It's going backwards because of attitudes of people who can't cope with seeing people different to themselves, and instead of looking at themselves why they get so triggered by them, blame it on everyone else for "ramming it down our throats" "everyone's gay/trans whatever nowadays" ...
Ru Paul and trans people aren't the problem.

I did see that performance. I watch Eurovision every year with DD. And yes I said at the time that I found it sleazy. So yes I am being consistent.

There was. So much so that Mel Giedroyc reproduced it last year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K9K1gWfoS8c

It has always been like that.

There was a bloke on r4 the other days analysing what makes a good pop song. Waterloo has all the ingredients. I think he said the Dutch one does too, but I was only half listening. He did say the UK one doesn't. I think when the UK does eurovision it often does a kind of patronising 'let's do what the Europeans like' without avidly seeing what people do like.

Totally impartial viewer here- I'm not a pop ir dance fan, but I like the eurovision spectacle.

Mostly trash anyway. Sign of the times really.

@LadyMary50 No we can thank homophobic people for that.

Your comment just about sums you up OP, ignorant , rude and self indulgent.

It honestly doesn't bother me. Camp makes me cringe but I believe everyone has a right to happiness and so what if Eurovision has morphed into a bit of a Pride extravaganza? It's not for me but they are having fun and not doing anyone any harm. I'll not watch it because it's not my thing but I would stand up and fight to protect it.

Society is going backwards and you can thank the Trans for that and the likes of Rue Paul…

Are we not allowed to link?

https://eurovision.tv/video/olly-alexander-dizzy-live-united-kingdom-first-semi-final-eurovision-2024.

Maybe I saw a different version from everyone else?

This is the version I watched:

Just watched it on youtube. It's a mind-numbingly boring song and the set looks rank - made me want someone to come out and power wash it!

The dancers were good and the acrobatics were fun but overall the choreography was dull with too much thrusting & humping - not very creative!

No you’re not :)

Exactly. Now that was done well with humour and 20 years ago!

I just watched the performance and unless a lot of the raunchy stuff was edited out by the choice of shots, I don’t think it is particularly extreme.

He does an amazing live performance though. You can clearly hear the melody and lyrics - even though he is dancing. I think its impressive.

Exactly.

I was more surprised that such an established singer was so out of tune! He was vocally by far the worst singer. I thought the depiction of gay men writhing around in a dirty public toilet was pretty stereotypical and grubby.

Why are you trying to make this a gay issue ?

Are you saying all gay men act like Olly ?

Like Olly as an actor but hes not a great singer.

Now the great George Michael done a great "so i got caught cottaging" song and very tasteful video.

I have spent a few minutes googling euro visions and OA and British values. The only thing I can find suggesting OA is going against British values is actually this thread.

It appears that there’s been some Problems in rehearsal, a small amount of people thing he should boycott due to Israel’s having a singer in. A smaller amount of people are annoyed he doesn’t like the UK flag. And some people don’t like the simulated sex/sexual assault in a dirty toilet as the performance. Which is definitely an ok opinion to have. I wouldn’t want to see a female singer acting out being assaulted on a TV show that’s meant to be for families.

There’s nothing about him not representing British values, anything that suggests people are angry that a gay man is representing the Uk at Eurovision, not thing that suggests the country is moving backwards when it comes to equal rights for gay people.

its seems op has just assumed anyone whose opinion isnt 100% positive must be a bigot and be clutching their pearls. Rather than the truth, which is some people have slightly differing opinions. No. Of which seem to be based in Homophobia.

Also everyone keeps referencing It’s a Sin am I the only person who saw him in God Help the Girl?