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U.K. Eurovision entry! A lot of pearl clutching

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Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:27

The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?)

I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers?

I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy!

So much pearl clutching!

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Colourofspring · 12/05/2024 00:05

@marmaladeandpeanutbutter Irelands song was intense 😂

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marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 11/05/2024 23:34

I don't like the uk song but Ireland's entry is better.

OneBadKitty · 11/05/2024 23:16

I think the song is ok. However, the performance was horrible. Why does being gay mean you have to make your whole persona and every performance about about your sexuality? It was just depicting the seedy side of gay sex and would be equally bad if it was a similar performance with straight seedy sexual connotations.

Myteenhatesme · 11/05/2024 23:11

Valeriekat · 11/05/2024 22:57

Not after Eurovision started surely?

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Eurovision started in 1956.
Homosexuality decriminalised in England in 1967.

Valeriekat · 11/05/2024 22:57

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:33

Surely it’s just more representative of all sections of the population now than in the Bucks Fizz days? Gay men got prosecuted and put in prison back in the day. Isn’t a society where everyone can be themselves a bit nicer?

Not after Eurovision started surely?

RainbowZebraWarrior · 11/05/2024 22:46

My biggest gripe is that it's so fucking long and boring. I just turned the telly on thinking I'd be finding out who had won. Nope. Still droning on.

Off back outside to look for the Aurora Borealis.

hot2trotter · 11/05/2024 22:38

I don't like the song but I do like him. There's a lot of homophobia going on.

AgnesX · 11/05/2024 22:14

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:53

@alittleprivacy my point is that the U.K. seems to be going backwards in terms of acceptance of everyone. It’s become a far moee more racist, inward looking, homophobic country than I remember growing up.

I don't know that it is with the younger generation (at least the ones I know). The Sun reading cretins and Daily Mail twerps haven't changed and are the same old, same old. Unfortunately.

Zebedee999 · 11/05/2024 22:09

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:27

The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?)

I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers?

I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy!

So much pearl clutching!

Funny how you question British values then go on to quote some. Wind your neck in.

crumbpet · 11/05/2024 22:05

Combattingthemoaners · 11/05/2024 20:02

I don’t think being camp is meant to be funny?

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Yeah was going to say. It's not meant to be a joke!

0w1 · 11/05/2024 21:57

Blimey uk song is good, bit the urinal, it's so deliberately sèedy! I'm on the fence about ireland's entry so not judging 😉 Spain's is my favourite.

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/05/2024 21:52

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:33

Surely it’s just more representative of all sections of the population now than in the Bucks Fizz days? Gay men got prosecuted and put in prison back in the day. Isn’t a society where everyone can be themselves a bit nicer?

Absolutely not homophobic and all are welcome.

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/05/2024 21:50

ShyPoet · 11/05/2024 17:06

It has always been camp. Making Your Mind Up by Bucks Fizz was very camp.
If you mean not openly gat performers, that is true. But thankfully times have moved on.

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I’m not homophobic, I don’t get that Buck’s Fizz was camp.

Blackcats7 · 11/05/2024 21:27

I think the whole thing has become about sex and a huge exhibitionist wank.
It’s a far cry from Abba.

Footyfandango · 11/05/2024 21:22

Dennerfold · 11/05/2024 09:00

I haven’t seen his performance but I don’t think he should represent us if he doesn’t like our flag: he is 'ambivalent' about the Union Jack flag as it can feel 'divisive' and 'nationalist'

Trying reading and posting the whole actual quote of what he said, you are misleading people

fungipie · 11/05/2024 21:16

TV off, pheeeew.

Enough, basta, genug, assez !

VestibuleVirgin · 11/05/2024 21:15

Nothing to do with being gay, it's just soft porno shite

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Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 21:00

IDontOftenComment · 11/05/2024 17:25

Your comment just about sums you up OP, ignorant , rude and self indulgent.

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REALLY? And you know all of this about me? It’s laughable that you feel you know this based on a couple of comments.

God mumsnet is a fucking cesspit at times.

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JohnSt1 · 11/05/2024 20:29

yellous · 11/05/2024 19:58

They refused to do the rehearsal, I wonder if they are planning a protest..?

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Supposedly it was a row over the Israeli commentator. Anything could happen though...

LindorDoubleChoc · 11/05/2024 20:20

I've boycotted Radio 2 this week because of the word Eurovision coming up literally every 2 minutes (including in the sports broadcasts FFS, I was just waiting for them to wangle it into the news).

I've listened to Heart London all day today and Eurovision has not been mentioned once! It's like a miracle!

SherbetDips · 11/05/2024 20:03

Colourofspring · 11/05/2024 08:34

Christ, if my kids turn out to be gay, I hope they can feel happy being themselves in a an accepting society 🤪

My sibling is gay and doesn’t like oli…thinks it’s all a bit ott.

Combattingthemoaners · 11/05/2024 20:02

Sharptonguedwoman · 11/05/2024 08:30

I'm 66. It hasn't always been camp and outrageous, all of that is relatively new. I'm not clutching my pearls, I'm just completely bored by it all, starting with Conchita Whatisname. Won't be watching. Camp stopped being funny with Kenneth Williams. Just boring now. (Rylan, are you listening?)

I don’t think being camp is meant to be funny?

takemeawayagain · 11/05/2024 20:01

I read that Olly Alexander for the semifinal was gyrating with half naked men wearing a red plastic jock strap in a men's toilet. I couldn't decide if it was more hilarious or horrifying.

yellous · 11/05/2024 19:58

JohnSt1 · 11/05/2024 19:49

I think Bambie Thug has the best song this year, and the best Irish entry ever.

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They refused to do the rehearsal, I wonder if they are planning a protest..?

yellous · 11/05/2024 19:56

NeverEnoughPants · 11/05/2024 19:24

No, that's facts.

Do you think that Abba went around dressed like that in everyday life?

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They don’t now anyway. I was on a small plane going to a very small airport (Malmö, where Eurovision is tonight). He waited and picked up his own bag and grabbed a taxi. Wouldn’t have noticed him if the air hostesses and my excited DH had not pointed him out. He was very ordinarily dressed.

And I know it’s got nothing to do with anything. 😅