To hate this current trend that girls should be raised to be fierce and fiery but boys shouldn't??

Agree I'd email HT and request a sit down meeting.

Not come across this trend before - and I think being a drama queen is very different from being assertive and sticking up for yourself. It is being acknowledged that the old-fashioned stiff upper lip for men has done them no favours. I'm fine with men crying and prefer them to express themselves, not bottle stuff up. My DH cries at some adverts! Both genders should try to get emotional intelligence while also understanding the benefits of being assertive and being able to stand their ground. Relationships should never be about pandering to someone IMO.

OP - Touch Grass. Seriously.

Could that be because girls and women are still being shouted down by boys and men even when they are being those things which are not always a negative thing?

The words you used you have made into a negative as an example for girls yet the synonyms for them are expected, praised, or even seen not as bad in a boy.

Negative for girls to be sassy, strong-minded, and can’t be told but perfectly fine for a boy to be bold, determined, and wilful.

We certainly should blame the sickos that make it. We should also blame parents who have no idea what their young children are accessing online and don't bother to check. We should blame those young boys who grow into young men (men of all ages tbh) incapable of differentiating between the stuff they watch and a real life woman in front of them. Who then think that coercing women into awful, degrading sexual acts is normal.
Teach your daughters to be fierce. To be confident in stating their boundaries. To be confident in saying the very simple word 'No'. We have centuries of compliance and niceness under our belts and its got us nowhere. With the arrival of the Internet, its worse now for girls and women than it ever has been.
I repeat, I am happy to join any movement that deals with the issues that young men face, porn and weed being two massive ones. I am not happy with mothers of boys telling me to teach my girl to be compliant and kind as a shortcut to fixing those issues. Fuck. That.

The world would be a much safer place for girls, boys, women and men if boys were actually being raised correctly, but they are not. How can you look at the crime statistics of not just adult men, but of teenage boys as well, and honestly think that girls being raised to be strong is a bad thing?
There is currently an onslaught of male podcasts and influencers who are pushing their unfiltered misogyny on to teenage boys. If you really cared about boys, why wasn't your post about that? That red pill nonsense feeds off keeping males sad, lonely, angry and bitter, surely fixing that would do much more for your sons that keeping girls meek and scared would.

You're exactly the kind of person I would expect to say "political correctness gone mad" op.

Sorry just seen you escalated to the head. Make an appointment to see them in person (taking a downloaded copy of their anti bullying policy), and ask exactly how they are going to prevent this from happening again.

Actually lots of kids end up having to hit back with bullies, often ends the bullying so don’t feel bad about it. Schools are notoriously shit at dealing with stuff like this, and it definitely seems to get played down if it’s a girl bullying a boy. It’s as if that couldn’t possibly happen so schools don’t want to take it seriously. Make an appointment with the headteacher.

OP you have told the teacher and nothing has been done. Have you escalated to the HT and then to the governors.

Telling your son to kick the girl back was foolish, it put him in the wrong. It wasn’t assertive, it was aggressive.

Thank you! I have told this anecdote before but my dd was added to a group during the night by a friend. The 'boys' were all discussing what they wanted to do to a girl. It was horrific. Torture in various forms was mentioned alongside sexual acts. This group of 'boys' were apparently all aged between 12-15. My dd is 12. Luckily we take her phone off her and check it very frequently, she didn't see it so I'm hoping this is the first time she's been added to a group like this. The girl who added her is the same age and very vulnerable for various reasons.
You are damn right I'm raising her to be fierce. As fierce as can be. I still don't know if that will be enough.
So I'll let you worry about your sons feeling inadequate OP and I'll worry about my dd's SAFETY facing the consequences of that inadequacy. That fair?

There are exceptions. Time for a bloody change.

Oh stop clutching your pearls about language.

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Bit of a pattern emerging?

And yes language is very important especially when used to put girls back in their box.

> awaits this threads first Karen reference <

I have also been called a stupid fucking bitch in the middle of the day on a garage forecourt by a man. In front of lots of other people. This man had no problem using language like this and aggressive body language to frighten me.

It's depressingly common isn't it?

I'm referring to the growing expectation that young men/boys now expect anal sex and to be able to spit on their partner or choke them during sex. Girls are expected to perform this as their first sexual experiences.

Your point is valid but a separate one. The actions above are almost always done by boys to girls and girls are too scared to object for fear of being seen as frigid .
Girls are being injured during sex. Anal tears and fissures are horribly common. This is not acceptable and we've not even touched on how much more common it is now for women to die during sex as a result of choking.

So I repeat - our boys absolutely need to have consent and what's safe and acceptable during sex drilled into them.

Oh stop clutching your pearls about language.

Language is important.
You're using lazy stereotypes and while you don't seem to think it's a problem there are lots of who would disagree.

That's progress in my eyes
It isn't at all in my eyes. It's teaching that one sex's needs should be prioritise over the other.

I have raised my daughter and son that they are equal in every way. That everything is possible for both. That labels are usual partial and biased.

As it is, my adult daughter has more traditional male traits whilst my son has more traditional female traits. They are who they are and both are close and respectful of men and women equally and form their opinions based on the individual characteristics, not their sex or gender.

I find this with smaller and larger children, not just boys and girls. Maybe we put up with more from kids who look cuter and more vulnerable?

My DS is tall and looks older than he is. Luckily he's a gentle boy because any misbehaviour on his part is much more obvious than with some of his classmates. I fall into this trap myself - I view his behaviour as being much worse because of his size than if the same behaviour was committed by a girl or a smaller boy. I come down much harder on him than the other children's parents do and have higher standards in many ways because I subconsciously view him as "older" than they are, even though he isn't. So in my mind he should be more mature.

I'm not sure on the boy/girl thing tbh. While some small, sweet-looking girls seem to get away with being, similarly some small angelic-looking boys seem to get away with all sorts. They all seem to have similarly doting parents to me, whereas other parents are much more "on it".

I'm 46 and today I had a guy wanting to park where I was trying to park. I said I was waiting to park and was told to fucking move, in a fucking builder, move bitch.

I was too scared to tell him to fuck off.

This is why girls need to be taught to be assertive (sorry drama queens) because men can be awful.

Fine parent your kid how you like. I have 3 boys. One of the reasons they have absolute trust in me, and come to me with any issues, is because they know I will;
Listen
Acknowledge their feelings
Give my opinion without giving them a lecture or jumping down their throats.

Taking care of and guiding your own son should (I hope!) be part of elevating men. You will champion your own son won’t you? We should be elevating all our young people not just the girls.

Same