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To not be keen on son's girlfriend

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MyWildAmberDreamer · 10/05/2024 14:18

Girlfriend is 22 (son is 21). Son lives with me, his dad and little brother (6). Son and girlfriend both work part time.
Girlfriend has been staying over 2-3 nights a week since they started seeing each other 2 years ago (we put a limit on it when she once ended up here for a whole week with no sign of going home any time). We have tried to be welcoming to her but are lucky if we get a hello from her, let alone a please or thank you. She has literally sat in my kitchen whilst I've been cooking dinner for everyone (including her!) and has barely spoken two words to me despite me trying to talk to her nicely but as soon as son came into room was whispering and giggling with him.
It feels like she thinks our house is a b&b she stays in with her boyfriend and she doesn't have to bother speaking to the staff.
When we spoke to son about it he said she's shy. But last weekend she was reading a 50 shades of grey style book on our sofa whilst our 6 year old (excellent reader!) was in the room with her. I didn't challenge her at the time as I only googled the title after she'd gone and was shocked. Younger son seems to think she's OK as she deigns to talk to him.

What would you do in this situation? Son doesn't seem to think there's an issue, if anything he'd like her here more! There are no signs of them moving in together any time soon. Not sure on longevity of relationship as its son's first 'proper' relationship.

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KreedKafer · 11/05/2024 11:11

But last weekend she was reading a 50 shades of grey style book on our sofa whilst our 6 year old (excellent reader!) was in the room with her

Unless your six-year-old was sitting on her lap reading it with her, why is this a problem? Why are you Googling the titles of her reading matter?!

If I was reading, eg, American Psycho, are you saying that would be inappropriate if your child was sitting in the same room or opposite me on the train? What about a Jackie Collins bonkbuster on the beach?

MyWildAmberDreamer · 11/05/2024 11:00

ConfusedCaterpillar · 11/05/2024 09:08

Is you had to Google the title to have a as problem with it you’re searching for things to object to.

If you and DP don’t want her in your house then provide advance notice and let your son know she is no longer welcome.

You need to decide if potentially driving a wedge between you and your son is worth it.

Just don’t be surprised if he chooses to move out rather than not see her. If you’re ok with that, then go ahead.

I should add that this was after a previous situation where she was reading a book with a beautiful cover a few weeks before which I googled to find out what it was (as I was thinking I might read it so I'd have something to talk to her about) and was really surprised she'd read something like that in front of me! I hasten to add again I have no problem with the genre in question! I just don't want it in front of my younger child. That is weird and wrong, hence I was worried when I saw another book of similar style appear a few weeks later but being read next to my 6 year old on our sofa!

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MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 11/05/2024 10:27

I would tell him he needs to start looking for a full time job so they can move out, or maybe put a limit on it to one night a week so they get the hint.

MyWildAmberDreamer · 11/05/2024 10:11

Guavafish1 · 11/05/2024 09:40

You don't like her as she just has different customs and mannerism to you and your family.

You can't change her.

If you don't like the situation tell your son and limit visits and overnight stay to one night a week.

They should move out and get their own place.

Yeah you're right, I don't like her and her bad manners/different upbringing/general rudeness are just the icing on the cake. I had hoped it would fizzle out before but as someone else said he is a passive ostrich so my fear is he'll stay with her and our relationship will just deteriorate.

But I guess I'll just have to suck it up like hundreds of thousands of parents before me and get on with it!

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Guavafish1 · 11/05/2024 09:40

You don't like her as she just has different customs and mannerism to you and your family.

You can't change her.

If you don't like the situation tell your son and limit visits and overnight stay to one night a week.

They should move out and get their own place.

BusyMum47 · 11/05/2024 09:38

MyWildAmberDreamer · 10/05/2024 20:12

I get feeling shy, I really do, I was horribly shy as a youngster but I would always be polite to boyfriend's parents, especially if I was staying the night.

I would also be more forgiving if she was a new girlfriend of a few weeks/months but it's been 2 years now. We have spoken to son about this before and it got a little better each time for a week or two then it was swiftly back to barely speaking. I have also heard her boasting to him about not helping out at her house (which is probably why they spend more time here come to think of it) which hasn't helped.

She's a 22 year old woman who does know better, she gives off serious idgaf vibes.

You've been incredibly patient & accommodating - obviously have done so for the sake of your son, but after 2 yrs of such rudeness from a grown woman, time is up!!

I'd tell your son how you feel & the expectations/house rules etc you have from this point on. If she/they don't meet them, then you just have to put your foot down & stop her staying altogether. It's YOUR house. If they don't like that, then they need to sort themselves out & get their own place.

She may be a bit shy but she's a whole lot of rude!!

Maray1967 · 11/05/2024 09:34

MyWildAmberDreamer · 10/05/2024 20:12

I get feeling shy, I really do, I was horribly shy as a youngster but I would always be polite to boyfriend's parents, especially if I was staying the night.

I would also be more forgiving if she was a new girlfriend of a few weeks/months but it's been 2 years now. We have spoken to son about this before and it got a little better each time for a week or two then it was swiftly back to barely speaking. I have also heard her boasting to him about not helping out at her house (which is probably why they spend more time here come to think of it) which hasn't helped.

She's a 22 year old woman who does know better, she gives off serious idgaf vibes.

Yes, I’d Feb very unhappy with this - and I’m well aware we’ve struck gold with DSs girlfriend - she’s lovely and helpful.

You need to have a word with your DS about basic manners that you expect. My DH once tried to leave mine when we were dating years ago without saying goodbye to my mum. His mum would not have been impressed if I’d done that to them so I pulled him up on it. Your son needs to do the same.

ConfusedCaterpillar · 11/05/2024 09:08

Is you had to Google the title to have a as problem with it you’re searching for things to object to.

If you and DP don’t want her in your house then provide advance notice and let your son know she is no longer welcome.

You need to decide if potentially driving a wedge between you and your son is worth it.

Just don’t be surprised if he chooses to move out rather than not see her. If you’re ok with that, then go ahead.

Ferngardens · 11/05/2024 00:32

They're adults really and probably enjoying winding you up. If they've been together for 2 years then I'd make more noises about them moving in together. 22 is probably time to try moving out. Otherwise you just have to accept that your adult son is living with you with his annoying adult girlfriend. They sound immature but 22 year olds are immature, I wouldn't necessarily expect much different. At least she seems to feel at home!

tillyandmilly · 10/05/2024 22:59

She sounds very immature for her age - whispering etc ….. you have been very tolerant but if she cannot even display basic manners I would say that she is not welcome anymore! Cannot stand bad manners - especially in someone else’s home and using all your facilities and expected to be waited on hand and foot! Arggggh this is making me mad on your behalf!

ButterCrackers · 10/05/2024 22:49

Time to start charging your ds rent and board if you’re not doing this already. He can pay extra when his gf stays. I hope that they don’t leave a mess everywhere. Give them both household jobs to do.

MyWildAmberDreamer · 10/05/2024 22:42

Thanks all, yes I should have done something about this beforehand but being a conflict avoider I have let it go way more than I should have. It changes today.

And also I did laugh out loud about the prude comment - I have no issue with the genre she's reading at all, it's more the fact it's age inappropriate for my younger child and I do not want to have to explain what bdsm/cbt is to a very inquisitive 6 year old! And nor should I have to! Serious ick!

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LakeTiticaca · 10/05/2024 22:38

Put your foot down. It's your home, tell them both to get their own place if they want to be together.
Why do they only work part time?

Aquamarine1029 · 10/05/2024 21:22

You are doing your son a massive disservice by tolerating behaviour like this. Your silence and willingness to have her in your home is telling him her rudeness is acceptable.

BiandLarge · 10/05/2024 21:18

determinedtomakethiswork · 10/05/2024 20:33

I couldn't put up with this. I would have to say something to her. I would wait until she's just ignored me and then I would say "I need a word with you. I've known you for two years and you've never been friendly throughout that time even though you've spent a couple of days a week in my house having free food Etc. I'm not doing it anymore. Either you show some respect and act in a friendly manner or you can stay in your own home from now on." Then I would leave the room pronto!

^^ This! If you’ve already spoken to him more than once, then speak directly to her. You should not have to feel uncomfortable in your own home. I probably wouldn’t be setting any ultimatums (sp. ultimata?) but more along the lines of until you can afford to live independently, you need to treat us like family not staff.

Also to the PPs saying you’ll drive your son away - nah, he sounds passive as sh*t, you might get some mardy door slamming but they honestly don’t sound like the most motivated couple

Solidlump · 10/05/2024 21:17

As someone who is shy and socially awkward I can generally sympathise with shyness. But after 2 years the shyness with you should have worn off by now! Also shyness doesn't excuse rudeness: even if she finds small talk difficult she should show you basic good manners and offer to help with certain things seeing as you are being good enough to let her use your home.
I really don't see why you should put up with this in your own home and your DS should respect you enough to talk to her about how her attitude is upsetting for you.

Aquamarine1029 · 10/05/2024 21:01

Laureline · 10/05/2024 20:17

I would tell my son either basic common courtesy is extended, or she can go be rude somewhere else.

Absolutely. I can't believe you have allowed her to behave like this in your own home. I'd be telling my son exactly how I felt about her shocking rudeness and the overnight stays would no longer be happening. Hell would freeze over before I had someone make me feel uncomfortable in my own fucking house.

PassingStranger · 10/05/2024 20:50

Never attack his partner she makes him happy
It will backfire and you will loose out.

He'll move out and your hardly see him.

determinedtomakethiswork · 10/05/2024 20:33

I couldn't put up with this. I would have to say something to her. I would wait until she's just ignored me and then I would say "I need a word with you. I've known you for two years and you've never been friendly throughout that time even though you've spent a couple of days a week in my house having free food Etc. I'm not doing it anymore. Either you show some respect and act in a friendly manner or you can stay in your own home from now on." Then I would leave the room pronto!

BIossomtoes · 10/05/2024 20:19

The only part of this that’s vaguely unreasonable about this is criticising her choice of reading material in public, it’s hardly intrusive. The rest is awful though.

FirstFallopians · 10/05/2024 20:19

“We have spoken to son about this before and it got a little better each time for a week or two then it was swiftly back to barely speaking.”

Why would she change her behaviour when there is zero consequence for acting like an arsehole? He obviously isn’t making it a bigger issue, and she’s still getting free room and board.

If I behaved like that to my MIL, DH would have dumped me, and likewise for him and my parents. Massive red flag.

Laureline · 10/05/2024 20:17

I would tell my son either basic common courtesy is extended, or she can go be rude somewhere else.

lightsandtunnels · 10/05/2024 20:16

I didn't like any of my DSs first few girlfriends so I don't think you're alone there OP! Thankfully he saw the light eventually!

It's really difficult to know what to do but I'd be careful about what I say to DS as you could end up pushing them together even more. She does sound a little shy to me and she must find it difficult to talk to her BFs mum who she probably has nothing in common with. Of course she'll engage with your other DS as he will have things in common with her - I don't think that's unusual at all.
I used to struggle to talk to my DCs friends at times as I wanted to be friendly but not over friendly and not be an idiot and embarrass my kids!
I guess you could say to him that she can only stay over twice a week or something like that but that wouldn't improve your relationship with her and he might then go to her place and you'd see less of him.
I did laugh at your book comment though OP - it sounded a little prudish - was she reading it out loud? At least she was reading and not staring at her phone! I don't see this as a problem at all.

MyWildAmberDreamer · 10/05/2024 20:12

fixies · 10/05/2024 20:00

I wouldn't attack her personality. I'd just say that he can't have a guest to stay 3 nights a week. It's too much. She can stay 1 or 2 nights max. I suspect her parents might of already done this - hence they end up at yours. If they want to see each other all the time they can get their own place.

Also go easy if she is shy. Shyness isn't rudeness. You don't want her to feel uncomfortable. In time she'll open up to you should the relationship go on.

I get feeling shy, I really do, I was horribly shy as a youngster but I would always be polite to boyfriend's parents, especially if I was staying the night.

I would also be more forgiving if she was a new girlfriend of a few weeks/months but it's been 2 years now. We have spoken to son about this before and it got a little better each time for a week or two then it was swiftly back to barely speaking. I have also heard her boasting to him about not helping out at her house (which is probably why they spend more time here come to think of it) which hasn't helped.

She's a 22 year old woman who does know better, she gives off serious idgaf vibes.

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Monzoqquery · 10/05/2024 20:08

Op don't know what I would do. How old is she? If she is genuinely shy then mentioning her manners will make it much worse and she'll feel even more shy.
However, it would be good to help her by setting a basic standard of hello and goodbye.
And a thank you.

I'm not sure how you would go about mentioning this without making it worse but you do need a basic level of respect.

Perhaps say to your son you understand she's shy but she must try and say either hello or thank you or good bye once in one week, twice the next etc