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To think you can't put a toilet outside someone's bedroom?

213 replies

SapphosRock · 10/05/2024 11:33

House on the left is having work done.

House on the right has no involvement in the work.

AIBU to think you can't just put a random portaloo above someone's front door and outside their bedroom window?

To think you can't put a toilet outside someone's bedroom?
To think you can't put a toilet outside someone's bedroom?
OP posts:
CorpusInterruptus · 11/05/2024 15:03

peacefull · 11/05/2024 08:47

lighten up It was a joke.

Oh! Huh. Really rare for me to miss when someone’s joking.

Fluffypuppy1 · 11/05/2024 14:28

They should definitely contact the local council. Building control or health and safety. Preferably both if they want something done quickly. Local MP may be able to help too.

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 11/05/2024 12:42

What about reporting this to the Council environmental department.
They deal with problems such as
public toilets
smell
antisocial behaviour

If neighbour to the right reports the smell of the toilet then they would normally write to the builders and ask them to remove it.

This is what happens with other stuff such as rubbish in gardens etc

rwalker · 11/05/2024 12:40

everything else a side can’t see the reason it has to be that far over
it could be moved near to the house being worked not ideal but a reasonable compromise

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 11/05/2024 12:38

Hadalifeonce · 11/05/2024 12:36

If it was my house I would contact the portaloo company and tell them it needs to be moved.
Assuming it has been hired from somewhere.

Locating a portaloo isn’t up to the company it’s up to the builders.
As long as it can be emptied it’s not their concern or responsibility

Hadalifeonce · 11/05/2024 12:36

If it was my house I would contact the portaloo company and tell them it needs to be moved.
Assuming it has been hired from somewhere.

Mummapenguin20 · 11/05/2024 12:34

Surley they are not allowed to do that

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 11/05/2024 12:33

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 11/05/2024 12:32

Any idea what the neighbour to the right plan to do next.
Write to their MP?
contact planning or building control?
or highways?

Health and safety exec at the council ?

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 11/05/2024 12:32

Any idea what the neighbour to the right plan to do next.
Write to their MP?
contact planning or building control?
or highways?

SapphosRock · 11/05/2024 12:30

Sorry didn't realise the thread had so many replies.

Neighbour to the right asked the builders if they can move it but they refused.

Neighbours to the left appear to be away and uncontactable.

OP posts:
Allshallbewell2021 · 11/05/2024 11:26

Is there any more news OP.

This is preying on my mind!

rwalker · 11/05/2024 09:48

SwingTheMonkey · 11/05/2024 08:03

It’s against the op’s house and over her front door. You cannot erect scaffolding against someone’s house without permission, unless it’s to carry out essential emergency work to ensure the structural integrity of the building. You certainly can’t erect scaffolding against someones’s house for the express reason of housing a portaloo.

It’s free standing on public land ,not touching anything and not restricting access no you don’t

if it was private land or attached then you would

it’s a terrible option it must of been as a last resort I’ve never see. Any thing like it

I’d to site manager ask for it to be move on the part directly in front of the house there working on and store it on the other bit when they need it out of the way to work where it is in front of the house they are working on

MangoBiscuit · 11/05/2024 09:18

That's taking the piss.

😁

peacefull · 11/05/2024 08:47

CorpusInterruptus · 10/05/2024 23:53

That’s a bit stupid, they’ll get it moved. But you know that.

lighten up It was a joke.

TheRussiansAreComing · 11/05/2024 08:21

Get onto the council and be firm.
I'm sure the scaffolding company would have had to submit a design, but it probably didn’t show the portaloo. Therefore the council may not have known.

Maybe report it to the HSE too. They may not be happy with its proximity to you. Also, if more than 7 people working on site the HSE will tell them to make other arrangements, such as a proper toilet in a different location.

I would have pushed it over to their side and remove the boards.

SwingTheMonkey · 11/05/2024 08:03

CormorantStrikesBack · 11/05/2024 07:46

You certainly need permission if it’s on private land but this looks like it’s on a public pavement. If it’s not touching the house I’m not sure they need permission? From the council though they would need permission. And I’d be complaining about the toilet.

It’s against the op’s house and over her front door. You cannot erect scaffolding against someone’s house without permission, unless it’s to carry out essential emergency work to ensure the structural integrity of the building. You certainly can’t erect scaffolding against someones’s house for the express reason of housing a portaloo.

CormorantStrikesBack · 11/05/2024 07:46

SwingTheMonkey · 11/05/2024 07:42

You cannot just erect scaffolding against a property you don’t own! You need express permission from the home owner to do this!

You certainly need permission if it’s on private land but this looks like it’s on a public pavement. If it’s not touching the house I’m not sure they need permission? From the council though they would need permission. And I’d be complaining about the toilet.

SwingTheMonkey · 11/05/2024 07:42

rwalker · 11/05/2024 07:27

As grim as it is why would they need neighbours permission it’s not on neighbours land it on the public pavement which they’ll of had permit for
the neighbour doesn’t own the pavement it’s not blocking access

its been out up for the sole purpose of accommodating toilets
toilet can’t go on pavement you need a clear metre walkway

Edited

You cannot just erect scaffolding against a property you don’t own! You need express permission from the home owner to do this!

rwalker · 11/05/2024 07:31

CharlotteBog · 11/05/2024 07:29

Did you look at the photo?

Yes it on public land and not attached to the house
it’s isn’t in the neighbours land it’s on public land

I certainly wouldn’t like it

CharlotteBog · 11/05/2024 07:29

rwalker · 11/05/2024 07:27

As grim as it is why would they need neighbours permission it’s not on neighbours land it on the public pavement which they’ll of had permit for
the neighbour doesn’t own the pavement it’s not blocking access

its been out up for the sole purpose of accommodating toilets
toilet can’t go on pavement you need a clear metre walkway

Edited

Did you look at the photo?

rwalker · 11/05/2024 07:27

As grim as it is why would they need neighbours permission it’s not on neighbours land it on the public pavement which they’ll of had permit for
the neighbour doesn’t own the pavement it’s not blocking access

its been out up for the sole purpose of accommodating toilets
toilet can’t go on pavement you need a clear metre walkway

Fluffypuppy1 · 11/05/2024 07:10

ZipZapZoom · 10/05/2024 11:36

I'm hoping they have their neighbours permission otherwise yikes that's incredibly rude of them!

Also I'll admit I know very little about scaffolding but I don't see why the scaffolding needs to be across front of the right house?

I agree. It looks like they’ve only put the scaffolding across the neighbour’s house in order to put the portaloo up there.

Nanaof1 · 11/05/2024 03:44

ILikePistachios · 10/05/2024 14:23

I wouldn't have an issue with it, it's only temporary and people need to poop.

Oh, you'd change your mind if you wanted to open the window. Even without it being opened, it WILL start to smell up the room behind the window.

Whoever thought putting a porta-potty on a second floor scaffold is batshit crazy. Let them put it in front of the house being worked on (or the back).

@SapphosRock I hope it gets resolved before the stink gets too bad.
A council allowing this makes me think the council deserves to have a porta-potty in front of their windows. (As if they would allow such a thing...)

wibdib · 11/05/2024 02:00

I would want to know why they had put it in front of my window rather than on a bit of scaffolding in front of one of their own windows or elsewhere in/on the property or its grounds.

Trying to remember what we were told when they built a new block of flats next to the ones I lived in - there was about a 3 inch gap between the two buildings.

The scaffolding grew with the new building and was a real pain - not least because we were on the third floor and had sliding doors opening onto a Juliette balcony. Security had never been an issue before, but suddenly we felt very vulnerable. I seem to remember being told that we couldn’t complain about the scaffolding but that we had to live with it as the freeholders had said ok. However, it was all done properly with party wall surveyors who they paid for for us, and we were given all the relevant contact numbers for the foreman on site and council contacts etc for things like if it got too noisy (eg when the concrete mixing Lorrie’s kept turning up at 6am and would then sit churning the concrete underneath our open window, walking us up and suffocating us with their fumes) and they were pretty good at listening to out complaints and acting on them.
have they sorted out a party wall surveyor for you? Check on your household insurance to see if you have legal cover and if so, talk to them about what you can do to get it moved ASAP - free solicitors letter always helps to focus minds of those who think that they can ignore you!

Whatadipstick · 11/05/2024 01:16

Why do they need the scaffolding across your house?