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AIBU to sleep on the streets in London?

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Glucose95 · 10/05/2024 11:06

Hello all,

I currently live in the Midlands at the moment and am looking for employment support but I am struggling to find any employment services that are helping me here.

I am finding it very hard to find a role in society. I graduated from University a couple of years ago and got good A Level grades (A* in Maths, A I’m History and A in Geography) but I am finding the jobsearch process very difficult due to my neurodiversity.

I have just been told by CareTradeUK (an organisation that was supporting me remotely) that their funding arrangement has changed now and they can only support individuals who are based in London.

This makes me sad as I have no one to support me now in finding employment and am finding it so hard.

A lot of the support is concentrated in London and there is not much here in the midlands.

I was thinking - would it be better if I moved to London and slept outside (ie. On the streets) for a bit so that I could access the job search support that is available in London?

I have a Blue Badge which I can bring with me and medical evidence.

I am finding it very hard to access employment support and I feel as if I don’t have a role in society without a job. My autism is making it very hard for me to find employment though.

What is it like living outside, and would I be able to access more support with jobsearch if I moved to London and slept outside for a bit?

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oakleaffy · 10/05/2024 22:56

Serencwtch · 10/05/2024 21:36

Do not do that. I spent a month street homeless & several months in hostels/night shelters.
You are likely to experience a lot of sexual harassment & sexual assault & assault on a nightly basis. You will repeatedly have your property stolen. The experiences will stay with you for life. Most people use drugs or alcohol just to get through each night.
You certainly won't be able to look for employment.

It's very true about the experiences staying with you for life.

Beautiful3 · 10/05/2024 22:18

You need an address to apply for jobs. Making yourself homeless is a terrible idea. It's very dangerous to live on the streets.

Serencwtch · 10/05/2024 21:36

Do not do that. I spent a month street homeless & several months in hostels/night shelters.
You are likely to experience a lot of sexual harassment & sexual assault & assault on a nightly basis. You will repeatedly have your property stolen. The experiences will stay with you for life. Most people use drugs or alcohol just to get through each night.
You certainly won't be able to look for employment.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 10/05/2024 21:36

Please find a hostel to stay in. It will be safer for you.

Canteloupetoday · 10/05/2024 21:28

Homeless women are at high risk of rape, murder or being physically hurt, being captured and kept in modern slavery, being forcibly addicted the drugs, or otherwise mistreated such as urinated on, and all the rest. Sleeping on the street is dangerous because of these risks. Not because it's a bit cold, or uncomfortable. You are at the mercy of psychos, and criminals who want to get their kicks, and their dollar out of you, the lone vulnerable ND street sleeping woman.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/05/2024 21:17

I'm really sorry to hear this - I don't think this would work at all as you wouldn't be able to prove you live in London with no address

betterangels · 10/05/2024 21:15

Have you actually seen how people sleeping rough have to live? I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and I certainly wouldn't voluntary choose it!

oakleaffy · 10/05/2024 21:13

listsandbudgets · 10/05/2024 20:40

Bless you @oakleaffy I'm glad things have improved for you now.

I once took a young homeless lass (maybe 17) to MacDonalds at one of the main London stations. Poor kid - I just wanted to scoop her up and give her a hug - chocolate milkshake and a burger meal hardly seemed to cover it - I sometimes wish I'd done more for her. It makes me angry that some people just drop through the net like that.

It’s so difficult- Younger people stand a better chance at rebuilding their lives-
I hope the girl you helped is ok now - I expect she remembers you!
London is a very bad place to be homeless in-
Luck does play a part.

I met a building society manager who allowed a mortgage!
Needless to say, I paid the mortgage before any other bill- Probably not so easy these days.

A home , however humble, is worth having.

@Glucose95 would be nuts to give up a home for the awfulness of the streets.

The squat I had was condemned but had a nice vibe 168 Swaton Road E3
Now a private house-

Appleandoranges · 10/05/2024 21:12

Congratulations on your great A level grades. Finding your first job is often really challenging. but once you get your first job, finding another one is easier. Have you thought about accountancy/apprenticeships? Just saying as you have a good maths grade. What sort of jobs would you like to do? What about going to a recruitment agency?

Catandsquirrel · 10/05/2024 21:11

Where in the mids are you OP? If you tell us a bit more about your circs, the area of work you're looking at and where you live, we can maybe help look into some local services who can help. Someone up thread has suggested one for the E mids. Maybe the London service can signpost you to something local? Your uni careers team are a good shout

Please don't make yourself homeless. Your safety is the most important thing and being homeless is so dangerous. Plus you wouldn't even have a London address.

Nevermind31 · 10/05/2024 21:08

Just no. You will not get a job being homeless.
you will also not get support as you don’t actually live in London. You’ll be one of many homeless people being moved along.

thesunday · 10/05/2024 21:07

Please don’t. It’s extremely rough. I don’t think you’d be unharmed for longer than a few days. Lots and lots of drugs, violence, crime, severe mental health issues. Have you actually seen the way these people have to live?

Daisybuttercup12345 · 10/05/2024 21:00

Don't be so ridiculous!!!!

listsandbudgets · 10/05/2024 20:40

Bless you @oakleaffy I'm glad things have improved for you now.

I once took a young homeless lass (maybe 17) to MacDonalds at one of the main London stations. Poor kid - I just wanted to scoop her up and give her a hug - chocolate milkshake and a burger meal hardly seemed to cover it - I sometimes wish I'd done more for her. It makes me angry that some people just drop through the net like that.

oakleaffy · 10/05/2024 19:31

listsandbudgets · 10/05/2024 16:42

OP, I assume you're currently on benefits? If you're struggling to find a job have you considered spending some time volunteering. You're supposed to do at least 30 hours job search a week but you can spend up to 15 of those volunteering without affecting your benefits. That would help you find a role in society, get you some valuable experience and hopefully distract you from one of the most lunatic ideas I've heard in a long long time. Honestly you don't want to be homeless London or anywhere else.

I used to be a local councillor. a man once turned up at my advice bureau just as i was leaving on a cold snowy night - he was homeless, hadn't been able to wash for a week (because the local public toilet and pool recently closed) was wearing filthy clothes and had had his sleeping bag and blanket nicked which is why he'd come in - he didn't actually know I was doing a bureau he just hoped he could sneak in and sleep in the community centre. He'd not had a hot drink for a couple of days and the less said about how he smelt and the state of his clothes the better. It took me hours to get him into emergency accommodation. Thankfully the community centre I was at had showers and a kettle. He told me a lot about his life while we waited for the emergency housing officer to call back - nice chap - often wonder what happened to him... and because the homeless are so often referred to as "they" or "him" or "her" I'd like to add he wasn't "him" his name was Richard

You sound a really humane person.
When I was homeless {not through choice! } I'd not eaten for days- I was quietly crying on a winter's night, and a woman asked what was wrong- I said that I was hungry.

She bought me a packet of chips- steaming, salty and vinegary- I still feel my eyes pricking at her kindness... That was one of the best meals I have ever had.

When one is truly hungry, food is all you can think about.

I do often think about that angelic woman- Wherever she is, Thank you!

Life on the streets , especially for a young woman is incredibly tough.

oakleaffy · 10/05/2024 19:24

Allthehorsesintheworld · 10/05/2024 17:04

No.
because it’s dangerous.
very bad for your health, both physical and mental. Ill health amongst people who are homeless is so high.
Far more difficult to find employment when you don’t have an address.

Look for other places for support, as suggested upthread.

I hope you find a job and happiness but please don’t put yourself at risk by living on the streets.

Washing oneself while street homeless is terribly difficult.
Public lavatories ..
One cannot keep neat looking while sleeping rough.

No employer will touch you!
Your clothes will soon become dirty.

Lying on hard concrete is painful.

Sleeping places {Dry and out of direct rain} are in high demand, and other homeless will turf you off.

Robbery is common.

I can't believe you are contemplating this.

oakleaffy · 10/05/2024 19:19

@Glucose95 As a teenager, I WAS street homeless for a while in London {For reasons I can't go into here}

It is DANGEROUS, Predatory men abound- dirty, washing is really hard - Hunger is real, it's absolute insanity to wilfully be considering this.

I eventually found a squat to live in, got my life together thanks to a wonderful hostel {now closed} and now own a house which I am forever grateful for.

Do not opt to street sleep.

purplecorkheart · 10/05/2024 19:18

No do not move to London to sleeo on the street. Beside it is awful, unsafe, dangerous for the majority of jobs you need an physical address, you will not have that on the street.

The support service you use are moving but surely there is others. Firstly ask then if they can refer you to a similar service. (They probably can but may not do so unless asked so you need to ask).Could you contact Citzens advice or your local job Centre for advice?

Could you contact your former University Career's office and see if they can advise somewhere to contact.

Queenfierce · 10/05/2024 18:48

Please don't make yourself homeless it'll be a extremely bad idea a home is important and hard to come by

BreakingAndBroke · 10/05/2024 18:36

Awful idea. There are a lot of bad people out there and plenty of stories of homeless people being spat at, weed on, attacked and even having their sleeping bags set on fire. You would be at risk of all of that and more, like having your things stolen, being attacked, physical or sexual assault.

Please try to access support where you are. If there are no organisations that can help you, why not reach out to your old school, friends or teachers and see if they can help you with CV polishing or mock interviews.

What sort of job do you want?

ShelleyCarpenter · 10/05/2024 18:29

Good God, no! Do not sleep in the street. Anywhere!

spritebottle · 10/05/2024 17:35

I think you've got it the other way round. The reason there's more support for people in London is because homeless/jobless/etc people have it worse in London I feel.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 10/05/2024 17:04

No.
because it’s dangerous.
very bad for your health, both physical and mental. Ill health amongst people who are homeless is so high.
Far more difficult to find employment when you don’t have an address.

Look for other places for support, as suggested upthread.

I hope you find a job and happiness but please don’t put yourself at risk by living on the streets.

MyNameIsFine · 10/05/2024 17:04

Apart from all the dangers, sleeping outside in London isn't the same thing as having an address in London. Without the address, I doubt you'll be able to access any of the services you want to use. Sorry you're feeling so desperate OP (bunch of flowers) can't find the emoji!

Todaywasbetter · 10/05/2024 17:02

Are you saying that a street sleeper in London has got a better chance of a job? Your logic is faulty.