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To create my own lane

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AuDHD4Me · 10/05/2024 08:08

I may have created a new Lane in the Lane Swim at my local pool. This may or may not have really confused and wound people up.

I feel like I'm missing something with swimming pool etiquette and would like to know if IABU to create my own lane or IANBU because the instructions aren't clear enough!

Let me explain….

First, I should mention that I have really poor eyesight and I can’t wear my glasses while swimming. Therefore, I enter the pool pretty much blind aside from seeing the odd bobbing head.
Second, the signs for the Lane swim are written in teeny teeny writing….

I can only see lanes made out for fast swim and slow swim. This confuses me. What is considered fast and what is considered slow?
That appears to be a gap in the middle, and as I have not checked my speed against what could be considered the standard for fast or slow I decided to take this gap.

This seems to confuse people. I’m not sure why as I don’t appear to be getting in people’s way, but two people have stopped at the end of the pool and are talking and gesturing.

That is another point by the way, I really do not get why people stand in the water and chat. The clue is in the name - swimming pool. it’s not really an area conducive for relaxation and chatter particularly as they have fast and slow lanes. Granted, they were in the slow lane….

I continue my swim in my self created medium speed lane.

Then, a gentleman gets into the pool. For the sake of argument, let’s call him Manspread man. (if you get the pop culture reference there, you can buy me a Horlicks).

I can only assume that this gentleman assumes that all bets are off with the Lane swimming. He proceeds to swim in a somewhat zigzag pattern between the fast and slow lanes and right in my way. He also manages to get in the way of both the fast and slow lane swimmers.

There is a lot of muttering and gesturing by the people who are standing in the pool or shifting out of his way. I can’t help feeling slightly responsible. The rest of my swim is spent with my head down trying to avoid everybody.

OP posts:
Ritadidsomethingbad · 10/05/2024 09:20

AuDHD4Me · 10/05/2024 09:17

No, no ropes and a big gap in the middle. Just signs at the end of each lane!

The signs are the end of each lane should give you idea that’s where the lanes are and people should be swimming. Come on your not that daft

AuDHD4Me · 10/05/2024 09:19

Ritadidsomethingbad · 10/05/2024 08:30

As an ex swimming teacher - yeah you’re gonna really piss people off and I’m surprised a life guard hasn’t spoken to you.

you can read the signs - if you go over to where they are.

Some swimmers are very militant about swim lanes and tbh you can’t really swim where the fuck you want when there are designated swim lanes as you can cause accidents. You’ve been very lucky no one has kicked you or a random slap hasn’t occurred because that absolutely does happen because that ‘gap in the middle’ is a safety barrier. Manspread swimmer is mostly being very passive aggressive towards you.

Get in the slow lane if you’re not ploughing up and down. The fast lane is for people wanting to burn off steam/high cardio and swim fast - those will be the kickers and slappers.

15 years teaching and I’ve seen all sorts of argybargy - especially in the early morning sessions 😮

Huge gap in the middle though - I would say at least another “lane’s width”

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Ritadidsomethingbad · 10/05/2024 09:18

MagpiePi · 10/05/2024 08:45

Why?
At my pool the whole thing is roped off for lane swimming so there is no open area.
Fast swimmers might have a timed rest in between intervals; aren’t you allowed to say hi to anyone then? And there are plenty of really slow swimmers who chat while on the move.

Because you have to stop before the actual end to avoid crashing in to the chit chatters. Lots of people turn at the wall and use it to push off and keeps the flow up - rather than slowing down before you should have to. Stopping, standing up, turning around. It disrupts the flow of the swim

AuDHD4Me · 10/05/2024 09:17

ZenNudist · 10/05/2024 08:21

Were there no ropes dividing lanes? That would be confusing. Usually 3 lanes are roped off. You are supposed to swim in same formation as everyone else. The middle bit is for overtaking.

No, no ropes and a big gap in the middle. Just signs at the end of each lane!

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easylikeasundaymorn · 10/05/2024 09:11

Another 1 to
a) recommend prescription goggles -you can get them cheap on ebay etc, they don't have to be exactly right down to the 0.25 of your prescription as long as you can see
B) say I can't work out what on earth was going on by your description
If there was a clearly designated middle lane marked out by ropes that didn't have a sign and nobody was using of course you were fine to use it, it would have been wierder to leave it empty while everyone crowded into the other 2 lanes (unless it was reserved for kids lessons or the general swim area for people not wanting to swim lengths).

If there weren't any ropes at all that's the pools fault. And yes I suppose it might have been weird for you to just swim in the middle but tbh I've never seen a length swimming session set out without ropes so can't imagine it

I'm intrigued by people whose pools actually have set speeds for each lane -have never seen that either. Seems a bit prescriptive - what if a session is full of either very slow or very fast swimmers - it would mean 1 lane not being used and the others being chock a block!

All the pools I've been its basically been a case of the first few people in decide themselves whether they are fast/slow/medium and go in those lanes, new joiners tend to eyeball their rough speeds and then join in accordingly -i.e. if they are usually quite fast but there are several members of the local swimming team bombing up and down they'd downgrade themselves to medium, however if the session is full of people chatting while swimming with head up to keep their hair dry they'd move over to the fastest lane.

So basically choose your lane based on your speed comparative to your fellow swimmers (and be prepared to swap if this changes half way through). Of course this does mean people need a realistic view of their own speed which isn't always the case...

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 09:06

@FussyPud I learn to swim as an adult - had a set of beginners lessons and then intermediate. Teachers were very good and it really did help me develop my front crawl technique. Of course I practiced loads too.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 09:04

TallulahBetty · 10/05/2024 09:03

Just wear your glasses, I always do.

...or get prescription goggles so you can put your face in the water.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 09:03

lljkk · 10/05/2024 08:56

Breaststrokers are the most anti-social types I encounter in pool: I got kicked, scratched and slapped by them 3x in a recent session: 2 of those from the adjacent (medium) lane, 3rd kicker I was trying to overtake in fast lane. Our fast lane is wide enough that overtaking should be possible both ways in the fast lane, but all you need is on wide breaststroker in there well out from the wall, and the overtaking space gets very narrow.

Proper breaststroke is fine, amateur less so. I am the latter, however have a very decent Front Crawl so mostly do that when it's busy.

TallulahBetty · 10/05/2024 09:03

Just wear your glasses, I always do.

PostItInABook · 10/05/2024 09:03

Ok dear.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 09:01

PostItInABook · 10/05/2024 08:53

I am very pleasant. Thanks for noticing. 😂
Yes, I’m aware I don’t own a lane. If I did the problem of idiots going in the wrong lane wouldn’t exist would it?
The point is, they AREN’T in a lane appropriate for their speed, and therefore, they are not cooperating. If I start in the fast lane and someone gets in who is much much faster than me I’ll move down a lane. If I start in the medium lane and someone gets in who is much much slower than me then they’re in the wrong lane. If they don’t figure it out after being lapped for the 5th time I get to a point where I simply don’t give a shit about ploughing through them if they’re still choosing to obstruct me.

You don't seem to understand that different speeds might all still be 'fast'.
You don't move into a lane of clearly slower people just because someone else's fast is slightly faster than your fast! Cooperation is key.

Theothername · 10/05/2024 09:01

I hate my prescription goggles. I use daily contact lenses which I remove after swimming (I only wear them to swim)

lljkk · 10/05/2024 08:56

Breaststrokers are the most anti-social types I encounter in pool: I got kicked, scratched and slapped by them 3x in a recent session: 2 of those from the adjacent (medium) lane, 3rd kicker I was trying to overtake in fast lane. Our fast lane is wide enough that overtaking should be possible both ways in the fast lane, but all you need is on wide breaststroker in there well out from the wall, and the overtaking space gets very narrow.

FussyPud · 10/05/2024 08:56

I swim slow as hell, as I’ve never been taught properly. I usually stick to non-lane sessions, and get my 32 lengths in as best I can. I do quite like the session at one local pool where there are two lanes, and then the free-for-all section for those of us who just plough up and down slowly. I’m on the waiting list for adult swimming lessons, so hopefully my skills will improve soon.

My pet peeve is people swimming in groups, and being offended if they have to part because there’s not enough room in a municipal pool for all three of them to do a leisurely length while hammering out the summer childcare coop details. (This was yesterday. It got so bad I gave up after 24 lengths.)

MagpiePi · 10/05/2024 08:53

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 08:48

Basic rule is that chatting for any length of time is frowned upon in lanes, especially when it's busy.

It’s never been a problem at my pool.

…I’m now imagining pools where there are signs saying ‘No talking’ and a stern life guard beats you with a pool noodle if you stop and shushes you with an angry glare if you dare to speak or make eye contact with another swimmer.

PostItInABook · 10/05/2024 08:53

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 08:47

You sound pleasant (yes, that's sarcasm).
You are aware that you don't own the lane, right?
Cooperation is key.
Nobody has more right than another to be there provided they are in a lane appropriate for their speed.

I am very pleasant. Thanks for noticing. 😂
Yes, I’m aware I don’t own a lane. If I did the problem of idiots going in the wrong lane wouldn’t exist would it?
The point is, they AREN’T in a lane appropriate for their speed, and therefore, they are not cooperating. If I start in the fast lane and someone gets in who is much much faster than me I’ll move down a lane. If I start in the medium lane and someone gets in who is much much slower than me then they’re in the wrong lane. If they don’t figure it out after being lapped for the 5th time I get to a point where I simply don’t give a shit about ploughing through them if they’re still choosing to obstruct me.

lljkk · 10/05/2024 08:53

Fast Lane - Swim 25 meters in less than 30 seconds
Medium Lane - Swim 25 meters in less than 45 seconds
Slow Lane - no limit specifed

Every pool I go to (all over England & abroad) with Lanes states those rules... and they never apply (!!). Real speeds & rules are :

Slow: any speed, stop in middle & pick your nose if you like, nobody is disciplined, go in random directions, whatever; piss off the "serious" slow swimmers

Medium: NEVER overtake in the middle, do not splash, very slow front crawl maybe. Actual speeds 40-90 seconds a length

Fast: Keep moving unless you're standing to gas for ages in the shallow end, 25m lengths in < 50 seconds, any stroke, overtake anywhere, splash as you like

I keep reading OP's posts but can't understand what she said. I never encounter the mythical antisocial male swimmers that every other MNer gets drowned by, I understood that part

Octavia64 · 10/05/2024 08:52

I am also blind as a bat when swimming.

Making your own lane is a serious no-no

Take your glasses in and put them on the side of the lane with your float/waterbottle/flip flops. Then you can see the signs.

Prescription goggles are about 20-30 pounds and are helpful.

Personally I do wild swimming these days because I hate pools so much and they are so crowded.

www.swimming.org/openwater/open-water-swimming-venues/

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 08:50

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 10/05/2024 08:48

I think this is fine as long as you're singing "You can make your own lane" to the tune of Fleetwood Mac in your head as you do it.

I'll be singing that all day now....cheers!
Honestly though, not being able to see and causing confusion by swimming where you like during lanes isn't really 'fine'.

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 10/05/2024 08:48

I think this is fine as long as you're singing "You can make your own lane" to the tune of Fleetwood Mac in your head as you do it.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 08:48

MagpiePi · 10/05/2024 08:45

Why?
At my pool the whole thing is roped off for lane swimming so there is no open area.
Fast swimmers might have a timed rest in between intervals; aren’t you allowed to say hi to anyone then? And there are plenty of really slow swimmers who chat while on the move.

Basic rule is that chatting for any length of time is frowned upon in lanes, especially when it's busy.

olderbutwiser · 10/05/2024 08:47

YABU to start this thread without a diagram.

FinnJuhl · 10/05/2024 08:47

You can get off the peg prescription goggles that don't cost the earth. I'm a minus 11 prescription, but bought minus 8 speedo goggles for £20, which are enough to let me read the signs.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 10/05/2024 08:47

PostItInABook · 10/05/2024 08:44

I no longer care who I annoy whilst swimming. I go in the fast or medium lane depending on who is already there when I get in. If someone gets in the lane I’m in who clearly shouldn’t be there I’ll overtake them everytime I catch up to them. If they don’t get the message I’ll just swim right through them until they finally figure it out and fuck off to the slow lane.

You sound pleasant (yes, that's sarcasm).
You are aware that you don't own the lane, right?
Cooperation is key.
Nobody has more right than another to be there provided they are in a lane appropriate for their speed.

helpfulperson · 10/05/2024 08:46

The most effective use of lanes is what the pool I used before I moved had. There were three lanes and someone actively managed them and asked people to move. Which lane you were in depended on the speed of others swimmingthat day. I normally used the slow but was occassionally asked to move to the middle lane.