To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]

Several! Mental illness is a huge spectrum.

It's harder to find, you need to key her name in, then go to posts, until you find one with her old photo attached, like a passport photo from about 20 or more years ago.

Not sure how stalkers pick a target - love, hate? Jealously? Envy, Pity? Some kind of chemical attraction?

I’m a woman, was stalked and assaulted by a man who lived in my block of flats. I didn’t know him, had not met him. He had sent me recorded letters (typed envelopes!) that I had refused to accept when I saw return address was in my building. Then he slipped the letters under my door but I would not open & put back under his door, I knew that I didn’t want to read them!!
The fact my stalker/assaulter followed me from my building allowed me ID him. How he learned my name is a mystery. The assault was after 3 months of not “engaging” with his letters.

The police did arrest him & struggled to understand WHY an openly gay man would stalk a much younger woman whom he had never met. Police were initially reluctant thinking I must by lying about not knowing him.
During police questioning he accused me of disturbing his “right to quite” not quiet. (that’s right, like Marta/Fiona,a mis-speller). He showed the police the his returned letters, a notebook where he recorded dates & times where I was disturbing his quiet. (From work swipes & receipts I could have proved I was elsewhere).

He spent a night in the cells, I got a protection order but he still body-slammed me in a shop & train platform months later. I moved away a year later.

I had a female flat mate … I always wondered why he selected me, and not her? Also, he had done similar to another young woman, and an elderly woman In the building over previous years, neither had gone to police. If they had he might have stopped, do resent them for not going to police.

Obviously harassing women chronic prob for him.

That's what she said in piers interview but it was muir when she harassed the m.p...i will attach a pic I've just screenshot it from a sun article.

Yeah, what I liked about Baby Reindeer was the "unsympathetic victim" reacting in self-destructive and questionable ways. It felt authentic.

It's disappointing how it's all going, as it seemed like a good way of opening up the conversation about trauma from abuse.

Lots of women who are stalked have similarly complicated thought processes, especially those who have been victims of abuse or trauma before the stalking began. People aren't black and white nor do they respond to things in the ways we'd always expect them to.

I thought it was double barrel at birth but changed when her parents divorced

Wasn't her name muir when at uni? I read she changed it after thd trouble with the m.p

To those who have seen the real FH's facebook profile- is it still publicly visible?

I found it yesterday (it had photos going back some years) but can't seem to find it today. Just lots of fake profiles created in the last couple of weeks. Not sure if it's the search function on FB being a bit weird and selective with results, or that the profile has actually been removed.

How to quantify the damage to her reputation !

I watched the interview last night following this thread and I’m watching BR now. Whilst I’m horrified by what she did, I did shake my head at a world in which a man being stalked can say things like ‘’Holding off reporting her out of fascination or empathy or guilt. Any excuse really, to keep her in my life.’ Can you imagine a woman being stalked by a man having this thought process?

This- and My own, unproven theory is that Netflix/Gadd knew how she'd respond and that it was likely that it would continue to play out in real life, which it is.
Free publicity for Netflix and Gadd

This

Fun fact...before she got famous, she turned up on an American forum I used to use, trying to promote her Edinburgh show. She couldn't have picked a worse audience for her brand, trust me, and she got exactly the reception I expected. As I was one of the few female users, a lot of them thought I was her and that I was trolling them.

Or she wins and gets £1.
Defamation is an expensive business. And Netflix want to protect their right to make based on true story stuff.
They could offer say £10k to settle and if she carries on then, bears both sides legal costs if she wins less than £10k.

Janey Godley is firmly TWAW and an unfunny, unpleasant woman.

To be fair I think that was a communication issue. PM was pressing her for a grade and she keep saying she didn't get Honours. So she she got an Ordinary degree which isn't graded - just pass or fail. That was PM's misunderstanding (I don't think he has a degree), and one of the few things she answered correctly, apparently.

@pootlin I think even a rookie lawyer could secure a win for FH in the courts for defamation. The problem would be that FH herself - shes is so unwilling to admit the parts she is guilty of (the thousands of messages being the obvious example) that she just wouldn’t make a credible witness.

I really don’t think it’s a Gadd vs FH thing. I think Gadd had the opportunity for a life-changing career break, and was led by the guidance and advice from the production company he was working with. At what point does he realise and pull out of the whole project?

From my understanding of his two stage shows BR were based on, his original writing was much more nuanced and an exploration of his role, a sense of shame in his complicity, his awareness of her vulnerabilities.

Again, her behaviour was awful. And there are many accounts of other people she has harassed (though to a lesser extent). I’m not excusing her at all, I just think the series is deeply problematic, and the blame needs to lie squarely with the Execs at Clerkenwell, Netflix and BBC studios. There’s way too much focus on Gadd vs FH.

I dislike Piers, but I think he was quite restrained with her and he tried to be balanced, which makes me think he is aware she is mentally unwell and that he shouldn’t have done the interview.

I agree with this. Given the ease with which people found Fiona Harvey, I think a good lawyer could argue that the fictional bits are defamatory.

Agreed, I had 7 emails in the 90s because AOL gave them to me automatically! They all had the same password so easy to remember. I still have them, though don’t use them much as AOL security is a bit lax.

Similarly with Gmail, it lets you have multiple email addresses all stored under one header.

They have come in handy when buying things that give a discount to first orders.

I've seen it too, it's not fake . I think she may have a few accounts on there though.

That seems to be the name for a TV programme up in Scotland. Whether that's what she meant or not who knows!