To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]

I didn't watch it and I don't think this interview should have been recorded or broadcast. We all already knew she has mental health problems, and exposing them publicly seems inappropriate.

I doubt he’d sit there with pages of evidence, even if he had it, as that would be more like a police interview. He was just giving her the right to reply. He kept gently reminding her though that the 1000’s of emails / texts etc could easily be traced back to whoever sent them, but she wasn’t having any of it.
Be interesting to see what her next move is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382858/uk-state-benefits-by-region/

@Saltyswee here you go. If you care to look, you will find that overall, Scotland is quite far down the table, when considered against similar populations in England. And yes it would include state pension, and child benefit.

Do you need an honours degree to do the legal diploma in Scotland?

If that is true, then she can't be a lawyer.

Maybe it was different back then?

I don't think she has ever properly worked as a lawyer, but I do think she had at least one traineeship that didn't work out.

The lawyer she is accused of stalking, Laura Wray, says that she gave her a traineeship because she hounded her, writing loads of letters saying she was desperate to work with her, and she later found out she wrote the same letters to all female lawyers in Glasgow.

Going by the date of this, Fiona would have been 31 at that point, so considerably older than most graduates going for traineeships. So I wonder what she was doing in between graduating and getting that traineeship? I don't think she was working.

No record of her under any of her names on the Law Society website. She isn’t a lawyer.

There are articles about her being accused of stalking her ex-boss and his wife under her then name of Fiona Muir.

The 6 email accounts and 4 phones were very telling.

I said this to DH

The whole thing is like a black mirror episode. The woman is clearly unwell and the Piers Morgan thing feels hugely exploitative and dangerous

If she is guilty of the stuff PM and others are accusing her of, there will be piles of evidence and the fact that PM has brought nothing like that to this interview and yet it went ahead in the format that it did, is shocking.

That was one of the first things that tipped me off that she wasn't bright.

I had previously assumed, based on various things that she had said, that she was incredibly intelligent, but with mental health problems and social skill problems which meant she couldn't work.

But she's not. She has a posh Scottish accent and a lot of misplaced confidence that I think has previously got her foot in the door places (such as law firms) but when it comes down to it, she doesn't have the intelligence or emotional intelligence to hold down a job.

(On BR it said she got a 1st from Glasgow uni. I'm sure I've seen her say on her fb that she got a 1st from Aberdeen. She clearly didn't, it was clearly a non honours degree, so would be interesting to see if I can find that post where she claimed to have a 1st, because I'm sure she did say that.)

I did Honours (with the first, upper/lower second, third system), but my understanding is that non-Honours is simply BA, BSc, BEng...,
often 'with distinction' awarded to the better candidates.
(Scottish system)

Its hardly surprising that’s she’s a liar, given her history?

Life isn't like a fairytale, it is not good vs evil. Believing that once you pick out the 'bad guy' doesn't automatically mean everyone else is safe. Noone is saying Matha isn't dangerous (although to what end we don't know as Gadd had said that much of his TV show is not true). But I do believe Gadd has serious mental health issues that cause him to encourage this behaviour. And there are many dangerous people that stalk Harvey and expose her. Not because they are good people, but because they are similar to Harvey.

But the onus of proof is on the guy not on her. How could she prove she did not send emails?

I haven't read the whole thread but surely even watching this is exploitative. Nothing would induce me to watch Piers Morgan on YouTube as it would increase his supposed popularity and benefit him financially.

Those watching and then saying how awful it is are part of the problem.

This I think - my mother was like this. Fabricated lies, but in the process of telling them wholly believed her constructions . I always felt she would pass a lie detector whilst swearing black was white, because her conscious/subconscious simply could not tell the difference between lie/truth. She was obviously mentally ill (anorexia, personality disorder, prob undiagnosed ADHD, narcissism etc). This woman seems very similar. I don’t think she should be given a platform as it will feed her illness and possibly cause her to escalate. But not sure Piers cares about the ethics or this woman’s vulnerability - just his likes and viewing numbers

An ordinary degree is one without honours.

I’ve just had to click on the Mail link to see who she is - I haven’t watched baby reindeer yet. The thing that stands out for me is why on earth would she do that to herself - put herself in the firing line of (as she calls him) the twerp piers Morgan - for £25? Surely she could’ve commanded £££ seeing as it’s been such a big hit? She’s clearly vulnerable (or maybe just fame-hungry?) for that alone!

I agree. I also wondered if this was all made up.

I think Piers did an excellent job with it. He pushed her but gently and seemed to be mindful of her obvious mental illness. She contradicts herself so many times.

Is it possible she’s saying “Breaking THE News”? An award-winning comedy show from bbc Scotland.

@Cattyisbatty because stalking is ultimately about power, and women will always have less power. That's why female stalkers are motivated by different things. They want relationships. They want connection. Male stalkers are motivated by wanting to control and own. They often are deeply misogynistic. It's a completely different type of crime. Essentially, us not having a penis matters.

Exactly. If it was a man there wouldn’t be this level of sympathy.

So many levels of wrong in Piers interviewing her. I wouldn’t watch it, but I watched BR (before I knew Martha had been tracked down) and this is opening up a massive can of worms
She shouldn’t be given publicity like this , but it’s Piers who hasn’t got a moral bone in his body,

I think, but could be wrong an ordinary degree is when you don’t submit a dissertation. This happened to a friend from uni.

Im amazed how sympathetic people are for this person who is a dangerous abuser.

I actually know someone, who has stalked people and had her children took off her because off all her lies, she was on a course to be a social worker and got kicked off her final year of that due to it all coming out! And Fiona reminds me so much of this women whom I unfortunately encountered. I honestly think they believe their own lies. And I think piers went easy on her.