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To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]

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Eshmee · 09/05/2024 21:20

Having watched her interview this evening, everything about her screamed 'liar'. Her language, her demeanor, her body language. I just wonder what other think?

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80schildhood · 10/05/2024 09:33

heathspeedwell · 10/05/2024 09:24

She didn't do time in prison for stalking. Gadd has said in interviews that he made up the scenes where she admits to stalking in court.

Fiona Muir didn't do jail time for stalking, the character did. So amateur sleuths would still use this "fact" as a clue to finding her identity.

And is more evidence of how abhorrent it is to claim you are telling a true story when you really aren't.

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 09:32

@BashfulClam yes some words were very oddly pronounced, most notably Glasgow. She says Glas-gouw, very strange pronunciation at the end of the word.

heathspeedwell · 10/05/2024 09:24

She didn't do time in prison for stalking. Gadd has said in interviews that he made up the scenes where she admits to stalking in court.

80schildhood · 10/05/2024 09:23

Janome9300 · 10/05/2024 09:14

I agree with your first point, it wouldn't be as interesting to people if it was the "normal" pattern of man stalking woman. On the second point though, she outed herself otherwise she'd be in the same position as the alleged rapist - lots of speculation but no media outlets would have dared name her.

The programme gave away many, many more identifiable details about her than it did him. Woman, legal field, jail time for stalking, Scottish background in London.... This all narrows it down quite substantially. And the fact that she "outed" herself is perhaps further evidence of a deeply disordered brain with little ability to fully understand consequences.

Richard Osman quite clearly said on his podcast that everyone in comedy knows who the sex offender is and he STILL hasn't been identified.

heathspeedwell · 10/05/2024 09:22

@Tdcp I agree with much of what you're saying but with one important caveat.

Gadd isn't sharing his 'frankly horrific' experiences with this woman. He completely fabricated the scenes where she beats Teri up. He's said in interviews that they never met.

We have zero evidence that she was ever violent, but if all she did was send him loads of texts and emails then it's just not going to make Gadd so much money is it?

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 09:21

"The way she laughed and said about how she was flattered he thought she was like the actress playing her and how she knew exactly how old he is 😳"

@Letsgotitans I think it was the opposite, I think she laughed and said it wasn't flattering.

She is very vocal about calling the actress fat and ugly, and how she (Fiona) is an attractive woman and looks nothing like her. She's been utterly vile to the actress. She also seems to hold her accountable in some way, she can't seem to see that Jessica Gunning is just an actress playing a role.

She was also going on about how Jessica is only 40, whereas she is 58, and laughing about it, failing to realise that the events took place 12 years ago when she was 46, so not such a huge difference.

BobbyBiscuits · 10/05/2024 09:19

I want to watch it. I despise Morgan but I have to say I'm gripped by the whole BR 'universe'!
What strikes me about that show is how the lead character seems to take zero responsibility for anything he does. He hurts people with ease.
Has anyone seen his early stand up? It's really, really terrible. Worse then the stuff on the show.

TotalDramarama24 · 10/05/2024 09:17

Does anyone know why she has gone on to Piers Morgan and is doing these interviews? If she emphatically denies doing everything in the programme and she was not named (and I assume that the writer has not confirmed it was her) then what makes her think the programme was about her?

If she is truly innocent in all this I don't understand why she is putting herself on TV to deny all of these allegations rather than just thinking well that can't be about me, it must be about someone else.

It was very stupid of the writer to say it was based on reality rather than fictional, and to get an actress that looks and speaks like Fiona.

Janome9300 · 10/05/2024 09:14

80schildhood · 10/05/2024 08:54

If she was a man the programme wouldn't have been made. If she was a man (like the actual male sex offender in the programme) she would be still anonymous.

I agree with your first point, it wouldn't be as interesting to people if it was the "normal" pattern of man stalking woman. On the second point though, she outed herself otherwise she'd be in the same position as the alleged rapist - lots of speculation but no media outlets would have dared name her.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 10/05/2024 09:13

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We decided to take this down as it is not in the spirit of the site.

Oh piss off!
54% of households in Scotland received "a type of state benefit" in 2021/22, compares with 54% across the UK, 60% in Wales.
UK state benefits by region 2022 | Statista

UK state benefits by region 2022 | Statista

In 2021/22, 60 percent of households in Nort Eas England and Wales were receiving a type of state benefit, the highest among regions in the United Kingdom in that reporting year.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382858/uk-state-benefits-by-region/

80schildhood · 10/05/2024 08:54

fieldsofbutterflies · 10/05/2024 08:49

I find it interesting that so many people are defending her and saying it's because she's mentally unwell.

I'm not saying she's not mentally unwell by the way, but if she was a man she wouldn't be getting any sympathy whatsoever and people would be saying she deserves what she gets.

If she was a man the programme wouldn't have been made. If she was a man (like the actual male sex offender in the programme) she would be still anonymous.

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 10/05/2024 08:54

Trez1510 · 09/05/2024 21:43

What are the percentages in England, Wales and NI?

Does that figure include those in receipt of state pension, UC, or Attendance/Carers Allowance?

There’s a bit of weird anti- Scottish thing on MN at the moment. It seems to crop up on various, unrelated threads.

Tdcp · 10/05/2024 08:53

heathspeedwell · 10/05/2024 08:42

Both Gadd and Piers Morgan have horribly exploited this unwell woman. They just saw pound signs and don't care that she's been having death threats and now will have a bigger target on her head.

I think Gadd is entitled to share his frankly, horrific experiences with this woman as well as the 'unnamed' man however, Netflix didn't do their due diligence and make damn sure the character of Martha couldn't be traced back to the person it was based on. Online sleuths found her in a matter of days by searching Twitter posts, it was that simple and that was the mistake. Now we are seeing the exploitation of a mentally unwell woman whilst once again, the 'real' predator is still being protected and still has his life, career and reputation intact. It's disgusting.

80schildhood · 10/05/2024 08:50

Life isn't black and white and this drama and the resulting backlash should really be opening up a discussion on our current obsession with oppressor v. oppressed. It is too easy to label any one of the characters/real life people as the bad guy. We know that abuse is cyclical. We know that Fiona and Martha were mentally ill. We know that there are allegations that Gadd has treated women and trans women badly in the past and we know that somewhere out there is a man in television who is a sexual predator but despite most of the TV comedy circuit knowing who he actually is noone has thought to speak up.

Also for those saying her mispronunciation of hyperbole was evidence of low intelligence, it really isn't. Most mispronunciations occur because the person is an autodidact and haven't been fed the information. They have learned the word through reading it. This in no way means they are less intelligent.

GingerGill · 10/05/2024 08:50

I’ll leave this here 🤦‍♀️

To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]
fieldsofbutterflies · 10/05/2024 08:49

I find it interesting that so many people are defending her and saying it's because she's mentally unwell.

I'm not saying she's not mentally unwell by the way, but if she was a man she wouldn't be getting any sympathy whatsoever and people would be saying she deserves what she gets.

artfuldodgerjack · 10/05/2024 08:49

She is speaking "her truth" ie. she believes that she's innocent in all this.
Clearly mentally unwell, Netflix have a lot to answer for as they didn't get Gadd to "change her beyond all recognition" as he said.

heathspeedwell · 10/05/2024 08:42

Both Gadd and Piers Morgan have horribly exploited this unwell woman. They just saw pound signs and don't care that she's been having death threats and now will have a bigger target on her head.

category12 · 10/05/2024 08:40

Cattyisbatty · 10/05/2024 07:28

Exactly. If it was a man there wouldn’t be this level of sympathy.

Rubbish. There is a male perpetrator involved here, and he's absolutely fine cos it's tumbleweed for him.

Funny how the mentally ill/personality disordered woman is being exploited and lambasted - but the perfectly sane, manipulative rapist is still flying under the radar.

AgentProvocateur · 10/05/2024 08:40

I’ve not watched it (yet!) but she’s the same age as me, and in the 70s in Scotland, an impoverished middle class background was common. My dad was a teacher and my mum didn’t work. Towards the end of the month, our packed lunch was jam sandwiches (home made bread and home made jam). Most of my friends were in the same boat.

We didn’t feel poor at the time, but in retrospect, we were.

80schildhood · 10/05/2024 08:39

Trez1510 · 09/05/2024 21:43

What are the percentages in England, Wales and NI?

Does that figure include those in receipt of state pension, UC, or Attendance/Carers Allowance?

Most of the rest of England, Wales and Northern Ireland have higher rates of benefit receipt than Scotland. The original poster was making a very cheap shot.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/382858/uk-state-benefits-by-region/

To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]
DeeCeeCherry · 10/05/2024 08:34

Piers Morgan is disgusting. The fact that this odious man is popular says a lot about society. She should be left alone. & pp's calling her batshit crazy, bonkers etc is horrible. She's mentally ill yes, but no need for nasty labelling due to that especially in this day and age

BashfulClam · 10/05/2024 08:33

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 08:01

That was one of the first things that tipped me off that she wasn't bright.

I had previously assumed, based on various things that she had said, that she was incredibly intelligent, but with mental health problems and social skill problems which meant she couldn't work.

But she's not. She has a posh Scottish accent and a lot of misplaced confidence that I think has previously got her foot in the door places (such as law firms) but when it comes down to it, she doesn't have the intelligence or emotional intelligence to hold down a job.

(On BR it said she got a 1st from Glasgow uni. I'm sure I've seen her say on her fb that she got a 1st from Aberdeen. She clearly didn't, it was clearly a non honours degree, so would be interesting to see if I can find that post where she claimed to have a 1st, because I'm sure she did say that.)

Her accent is strange as she used a lot of pronunciation that would be considered cockney. Although that could just be from living in London.

ThoseBlueRememberedHills · 10/05/2024 08:30

What people are seeing as her being untruthful, might be her being careful what she says as she is taking this to court.

Having said that, I think she would have been wise to not do this interview if she is hoping for success in court.

ChickyBricky · 10/05/2024 08:29

I just took a quick look at her FB profile and can't believe how much people are ganging up to bully and ridicule her. This woman is clearly mentally ill and she is being goaded.

Re the interview, I've only watched tiny clips of it. I'd doubt she has any kind of degree given that she can hardly spell.