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To yearn for a third child

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Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:09

I'm really struggling to come to terms with not having a third child. My husband is happy and done at two and doesn't want a third, and I don't want to persuade him as I want to respect his wishes.

I adore the two children we have (4 and 18 months) but I am yearning every day for a third child and I'm not sure how to get over it.
We had a very traumatic time when my second was born; we spent the first 3.5 weeks of his life in hospital as he had to have life-saving surgery. We didn't know there was a problem until he was born, it was terrifying. He is really well now and all is good, hopefully will stay that way forever and no further intervention will be required. However I feel that we missed out on the new-born stage with him as we moved in with family straight from the hospital as we sold our house (it was a crazy time!). We didn't get any of the newborn cuddles for the first few weeks as he was in PICU and then in recovery with lots of tubes coming out of him. Then when we got home we had to administer blood thinners which ended up being put in the wrong place and he had to go back into hospital for a few days. I've witnessed things that are distressing and I'm quite good at putting it in a box in my mind and not dwelling on it. However I do think that this start to life for our second child has left me with a huge desire for another baby. I always wanted three children deep down, but thought that I would be fine to stop at two as logistically I understood it probably makes more sense. But like I've said, my heart is longing for another.

I understand that this could come across badly. I'm not wanting to have another baby in order to solve the PTSD I've probably got from the experience with our second. I just think that what we went through has made these feelings even stronger.

My husband's reasoning for sticking at two is that the two we've got are amazing, they're both whirlwinds so require quite a lot of energy as it is, we'll be in a much easier phase soon when the youngest is a bit older and they can both play together, a third might affect the great dynamic we've currently got, finances (he wants to send them both to private school).

But in my head, life is all about relationships, family and having a busy household. I grew up in such a dysfunctional family, I dream of having a bustling, loving home with a big family.

Has anyone been through similar and can offer some advice? I don't want to continue thinking day in day out about having another baby when I think my husband is pretty set on not having another.

Thanks

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GeorgeBeckett · 09/05/2024 21:13

Just to warn you - my first spent 4 months in hospital, surgery, lifelong condition. Went for another. No 2 has a completely unrelated but also serious diagnosis and had surgery and spent months in hospital. I did kind of think there would be healing from the trauma of the first time when we decided to go for it.

I don’t regret it and love them dearly. And I get what you mean. I do slightly wonder about a 3rd but know it isn’t sensible with our house size and finances and the risk of whatever else could happen after our luck.

But my own siblings are spread 2 close together and then a little afterthought and it’s been great from that side of things!

Kitkat1523 · 09/05/2024 20:43

Dahliasinallotment · 09/05/2024 19:53

I wanted a third every day since ds2 was 3 days old. DH wavered when he was 9, and we have a 10 year gap between them. I was 42 when she was born. The broody feelings evaporated (and I went into perimenopause as soon as I stopped nursing at 45).

It is fantastic. I love the big gap. The third feels like a tremendous gift.

there is time.

Are you rich enough to give 3 everything? ….their own rooms…still have the same holidays you would have had with 2 ….still be able to pay for all their activities…..be able to provide for uni for them all….if so then that’s great …..I’m 59 now with 3 school age GDs ……I would only have 2 if I hadn’t have had my 3rd DC ….so no regrets really……but in order to give my 3 children everything I would have given my 2 children I have worked full time for more years tHan I would have wanted

Kitkat1523 · 09/05/2024 20:39

iamnewpleasebenice · 09/05/2024 19:53

Would you be kind enough to explain why? Did you have big age gaps or quite close together?

I have 3….all grown …..if I had my time again I wouldn’t have had 3 …if I was making that choice in the current climate it would be a no brainer …..2 is enough

i had a boy 6 and a girl 4 when I had my 3rd….I was 32…..my DD had started school and I went back to having a pre schooler…..felt like I had been set back 5 years…..the added expense of 3 was a factor….,holidays are geared to 2 adults and 2 children….so are days out…and 3 take up much more of your time…..and money….I didn’t want my children to bedroom share …..as 3rd baby was a boy…..so tooo big a age gap for the 2 Boys to share…so we had the expense of a loft conversion….of course once they are here you get on with it….but it was hard days

rocke · 09/05/2024 20:37

I had a not identical but similar experience with my second having a PICU admission as a newborn and being very unwell. Then when he was 4 months COVID hit so his babyhood was not what I expected or planned for and I also felt quite traumatised by what had happened. I had even before I had him thought I would like a third, but the feelings I had around what happened definitely made me feel like I had an even stronger urge for another. I felt like I didn't want that to be my last experience of having a newborn and that a more positive experience would somehow make up for what I missed with my second.

Like you I'm hugely lucky that my second is now healthy and with no lasting effects of what happened, and obviously he has no memory of any of it.

My husband didn't want a third and now that they're 7 and 4 I'm pretty much at peace with it and can see the positives of our family size. I think some of the things that have helped me get to this point are:

  1. I accessed talking therapies that helped me to process what had happened. Having a baby in PICU is a massive thing to go through and counselling or other talking therapies can be really helpful to talk it through.
  1. Time has helped, both with my feelings about what happened and also with the urge to have another.
  1. Reminding myself that there are no guarantees with any of this stuff, for anyone. I could have another child and have a similar or worse thing happen. And even if I had another and everything went fine, I would still feel sad at times about what happened with my second, and that's ok. Another baby wouldn't cancel out what happened. I definitely idealised the "normal" experience of having a newborn as well, whereas the reality is that it can be a really difficult time for lots of people for all sorts of reasons.
neverbeenskiing · 09/05/2024 20:34

Sometimes you just have to follow your heart

What about her DH? He has been clear he doesn't want another baby.

Bebebebebebe1 · 09/05/2024 20:19

So I could have written your post this time last year. I had a 3 and 1 year old and could not get the thought of having a 3rd out of my head I couldn't imagine a future without a third child in it. It consumed me. And like you I had a poorly baby, moved house with a 2 week old, had post natal anxiety and some horrific family stuff happen all at the same time. It was a LOT.
I'm due to have my third next week and I am absolutely extatic. Sometimes you just have to follow your heart.

SamPoodle123 · 09/05/2024 20:17

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:53

Do you mind me asking how old you both were when you decided to go for your third? I think this is a factor that deters my husband

Yes, we were 35 and 43.5.

iamnewpleasebenice · 09/05/2024 19:53

Kitkat1523 · 09/05/2024 19:24

I have 3….all grown …..if I had my time again I wouldn’t have had 3 …if I was making that choice in the current climate it would be a no brainer …..2 is enough

Would you be kind enough to explain why? Did you have big age gaps or quite close together?

Dahliasinallotment · 09/05/2024 19:53

I wanted a third every day since ds2 was 3 days old. DH wavered when he was 9, and we have a 10 year gap between them. I was 42 when she was born. The broody feelings evaporated (and I went into perimenopause as soon as I stopped nursing at 45).

It is fantastic. I love the big gap. The third feels like a tremendous gift.

there is time.

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:53

SamPoodle123 · 09/05/2024 19:51

I always wanted a big family and after we had 2, I felt they were hard work (they were as they were 20 months apart, so basically two babies at once!). So it took a while and eventually, we went for the third because I could not get the idea of a third out of my head. We even got a dog before, as I thought the dog would be my baby (the dog is my baby even though she is now 6 years old!) But even after the dog, I could not forget about having a third baby. So we went for it. She is now 4 and we are very happy (we already had a girl and boy, so it was jsut another baby boy or girl I wanted). Anyway, I think it all depends. If you have time on your hands you can wait. We have a big gap from the 2nd to third (6 years) bc it took a while until I felt ready after having the first two twenty months apart. And we are comfortable financially, house big enough for each to have their own room (although have no problem w them sharing if needed, as 2 of them choose to sleep with one of us still). I say, if you have space, financially stable and young enough to wait....then you could just wait and see. Maybe your dh will come around....most men do....as I think it is common for one to want one more and the other not sure or not keen (at least I have seen this from friends). And once the baby is here or eventually the man changes his mind.

Dh was not keen on the dog and then we got it and he is the most smitten.....loves the dog so so so much and now it is him asking for another dog and me saying I think we are fine (as the dog we have I think would be jealous). And he was not so keen for a third, as he always felt we were not ready because the two we had first were a handful....but anyway he gave in and now the third is daddy's girl (the other two were more about mama). Anyway, no regrets. But each will have their own experience and it depends...you just have to look at the whole picture to see what is right.

Do you mind me asking how old you both were when you decided to go for your third? I think this is a factor that deters my husband

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SamPoodle123 · 09/05/2024 19:51

I always wanted a big family and after we had 2, I felt they were hard work (they were as they were 20 months apart, so basically two babies at once!). So it took a while and eventually, we went for the third because I could not get the idea of a third out of my head. We even got a dog before, as I thought the dog would be my baby (the dog is my baby even though she is now 6 years old!) But even after the dog, I could not forget about having a third baby. So we went for it. She is now 4 and we are very happy (we already had a girl and boy, so it was jsut another baby boy or girl I wanted). Anyway, I think it all depends. If you have time on your hands you can wait. We have a big gap from the 2nd to third (6 years) bc it took a while until I felt ready after having the first two twenty months apart. And we are comfortable financially, house big enough for each to have their own room (although have no problem w them sharing if needed, as 2 of them choose to sleep with one of us still). I say, if you have space, financially stable and young enough to wait....then you could just wait and see. Maybe your dh will come around....most men do....as I think it is common for one to want one more and the other not sure or not keen (at least I have seen this from friends). And once the baby is here or eventually the man changes his mind.

Dh was not keen on the dog and then we got it and he is the most smitten.....loves the dog so so so much and now it is him asking for another dog and me saying I think we are fine (as the dog we have I think would be jealous). And he was not so keen for a third, as he always felt we were not ready because the two we had first were a handful....but anyway he gave in and now the third is daddy's girl (the other two were more about mama). Anyway, no regrets. But each will have their own experience and it depends...you just have to look at the whole picture to see what is right.

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:49

Daphnis156 · 09/05/2024 19:43

So another child would make life lovely and make up for missing "normality" when the second child was born ill?
Perhaps you need help with your mental outlook?

It's a fair point but I don't see it exactly like that. I see it as I first and foremost really long for a third child regardless of what has happened, but I do think it would bring some healing for what we went through with my youngest.

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fishonabicycle · 09/05/2024 19:45

What will you do if you have another unpleasant and distressing experience? Or your child is not healthy, or the added stress and expense ruin your marriage? Try to be happy with what you have - 2 healthy children, and make the most of being financially comfortable.

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:44

itsmylife7 · 09/05/2024 19:30

Just a thought

but if you had a 3rd child and the child was also ill /unwell would you then want a 4th ?

I imagine I'd feel wracked with guilt that I'd pushed for a third and it would outweigh any longing for another baby

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Welovecrumpets · 09/05/2024 19:44

Daphnis156 · 09/05/2024 19:43

So another child would make life lovely and make up for missing "normality" when the second child was born ill?
Perhaps you need help with your mental outlook?

Snide tbh

Daphnis156 · 09/05/2024 19:43

So another child would make life lovely and make up for missing "normality" when the second child was born ill?
Perhaps you need help with your mental outlook?

Welovecrumpets · 09/05/2024 19:42

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:35

Don't apologise, it's really helpful to share experiences and thought processes.
Similar to how you mentioned it stings for you that your family members had smooth pregnancies and births, it really stings for me when I see newborns in their car seats ready to go home for the first time, or their parents have just come out of hospital with them and they're already out and about a couple of days after the birth. Our son's first few weeks were so medicalised and scary. I crave that experience of having a newborn again. But maybe I'm romanticising it in my head.
It's so hard to stop ruminating about it

Oh I hear you, I really do. For me it stings when I hear about people going into labour (would’ve loved that experience rather than waiting in a crowded hospital being hooked up to drips) and also the whole ‘popping them out then being home 3 hours later’. Both times my kids needed days in hospital and then readmission shortly after coming home (for relatively minor things, nothing like you went through so sorry if I sound a whinger), so I never had that ‘awww were home, time for snuggles and visitors’ thing. My first was also only 6 months when covid hit so most of my maternity leave was spent holed up in our flat going mad with a crawling and then walking baby.

Keep venting, you sound like underneath you are very sensible but you just need to let all your thoughts and feelings out somewhere 🌷

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:41

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/05/2024 19:34

I can’t really relate to this as I didn’t want more than one child and never got the urge to keep having more.

But it self evidently will pass? You won’t always want another child. You just have to sit it out.

I'm not sure it will pass! I was broody straight after having both my children which is bizarre but probably hormone related. I thought it would calm down over time but it hasn't at all

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Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:40

Lululime2024 · 09/05/2024 19:38

I have 3 and I remember when my 2nd reached 18 months it was like a switch went off and I all of sudden had a unbelievable yearning for another, she's currently sat next to me and she's amazing!

all I will say is days out/ holidays mega expensive. Potentially have to get a bigger car to fit 3 car seats if yours isn't sufficient (we had to do this) being outnumbered isn't ideal on rides and what not.

food shop goes up, and honestly I've never felt as though life is whizzing by quite like I have since my 3rd was born. and someone always needs a new pair of shoes.

Was your partner immediately on board about having a third?

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Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:40

Tooomanynames · 09/05/2024 19:34

My husband wouldn’t entertain the idea of a third until my second was 2 and a half. A year later, we now have three (Aged 5.5, 3.5 and 8 weeks. Do you think with time he may come round to the idea? You’re in the thick of it with a toddler at the moment!

Possibly, I'm not sure. He'll be 40 by then and I think he'll mentally have decided his baby days are done (not that there is anything wrong with having babies over 40 but I think for my husband it's not in his 'plan')

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Lululime2024 · 09/05/2024 19:38

I have 3 and I remember when my 2nd reached 18 months it was like a switch went off and I all of sudden had a unbelievable yearning for another, she's currently sat next to me and she's amazing!

all I will say is days out/ holidays mega expensive. Potentially have to get a bigger car to fit 3 car seats if yours isn't sufficient (we had to do this) being outnumbered isn't ideal on rides and what not.

food shop goes up, and honestly I've never felt as though life is whizzing by quite like I have since my 3rd was born. and someone always needs a new pair of shoes.

JaninaDuszejko · 09/05/2024 19:38

We have 3DC, they are now 12, 14 and 16 and it's fabulous. I do not regret having 3DC. If you are considering private education you can easily afford to have 3DC and I think another sibling is a greater gift for a child than a posh school. We prioritised a larger family over going private and it has definitely been the right decision for us. DH is from a family of 3, I'm from a family of 4. Bigger families are great.

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:35

Welovecrumpets · 09/05/2024 19:30

I also have a longing for a third.

My kids are nearly 5 and just turned 1.

Like you, I had a really negative experience with my second. Awful pregnancy (hypermesis and bedbound for months), a few medical scares which thankfully came to nothing but worried us for weeks until various test results were back, a scary birth (induction, total negligence by the hospital which I’ve received a formal apology for but the emotional scars remain!) and quite severe postnatal depression probably because of all that.

My kids are both absolute joys and thriving so part of it is that I would love to add another! But the other part of me wonders if I just want to do it all again and have a great pregnancy and birth to heal from the last time. Which I know I can’t have as I have a pre existing condition which means I will always be very medicalised and high risk. My sister and SIL both had really smooth pregnancies and fabulous home births or water births, and it stings a bit I’ll never have that experience or even the opportunity to try.

But I have to focus on the positives, I have 2 wonderful children and financially we can’t really comfortably stretch to 3. I think it would be better to wonder ‘what if’ rather than have a third and realise I couldn’t cope.

Sorry for the brain dump but just wanted to say I understand!

Don't apologise, it's really helpful to share experiences and thought processes.
Similar to how you mentioned it stings for you that your family members had smooth pregnancies and births, it really stings for me when I see newborns in their car seats ready to go home for the first time, or their parents have just come out of hospital with them and they're already out and about a couple of days after the birth. Our son's first few weeks were so medicalised and scary. I crave that experience of having a newborn again. But maybe I'm romanticising it in my head.
It's so hard to stop ruminating about it

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Tooomanynames · 09/05/2024 19:34

My husband wouldn’t entertain the idea of a third until my second was 2 and a half. A year later, we now have three (Aged 5.5, 3.5 and 8 weeks. Do you think with time he may come round to the idea? You’re in the thick of it with a toddler at the moment!

Thepeopleversuswork · 09/05/2024 19:34

I can’t really relate to this as I didn’t want more than one child and never got the urge to keep having more.

But it self evidently will pass? You won’t always want another child. You just have to sit it out.