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To yearn for a third child

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Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 19:09

I'm really struggling to come to terms with not having a third child. My husband is happy and done at two and doesn't want a third, and I don't want to persuade him as I want to respect his wishes.

I adore the two children we have (4 and 18 months) but I am yearning every day for a third child and I'm not sure how to get over it.
We had a very traumatic time when my second was born; we spent the first 3.5 weeks of his life in hospital as he had to have life-saving surgery. We didn't know there was a problem until he was born, it was terrifying. He is really well now and all is good, hopefully will stay that way forever and no further intervention will be required. However I feel that we missed out on the new-born stage with him as we moved in with family straight from the hospital as we sold our house (it was a crazy time!). We didn't get any of the newborn cuddles for the first few weeks as he was in PICU and then in recovery with lots of tubes coming out of him. Then when we got home we had to administer blood thinners which ended up being put in the wrong place and he had to go back into hospital for a few days. I've witnessed things that are distressing and I'm quite good at putting it in a box in my mind and not dwelling on it. However I do think that this start to life for our second child has left me with a huge desire for another baby. I always wanted three children deep down, but thought that I would be fine to stop at two as logistically I understood it probably makes more sense. But like I've said, my heart is longing for another.

I understand that this could come across badly. I'm not wanting to have another baby in order to solve the PTSD I've probably got from the experience with our second. I just think that what we went through has made these feelings even stronger.

My husband's reasoning for sticking at two is that the two we've got are amazing, they're both whirlwinds so require quite a lot of energy as it is, we'll be in a much easier phase soon when the youngest is a bit older and they can both play together, a third might affect the great dynamic we've currently got, finances (he wants to send them both to private school).

But in my head, life is all about relationships, family and having a busy household. I grew up in such a dysfunctional family, I dream of having a bustling, loving home with a big family.

Has anyone been through similar and can offer some advice? I don't want to continue thinking day in day out about having another baby when I think my husband is pretty set on not having another.

Thanks

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Ferngardens · 09/05/2024 23:41

Having a third child wouldn't heal anything, healing only comes from within and it's a lot to put on a child. I'm sorry for your experience but it's very possible that a third experience could be traumatic in other ways. Those lovely peaceful baby days in my experience are a one time only event, when you've got other children you can't recreate that quiet with your first one. I wonder if some of what you experienced with your second is just life as a busy parent. With a first child you've still got a foot in a child free life. Your husband has a valid point about age, 40 isn't old to be a parent but it does mean you'll be at the primary school gates at 50 and that's not for everyone, personally my children will be adults by that age and I'm happy for that. Might be worth getting some counselling I think to help understand how you feel more, or how your husband feels.

DrFroggy · 09/05/2024 23:34

I have 3. I wanted a third almost as soon as I had my second by DH was not up for it. 2 year later he changed his mind and now we have three teenagers. I absolutely don’t regret it. Yes we have a bigger car, yes holidays are more complicated but I love having a bigger family. They are all so different and interesting. The small child bit is a short time really. I guess we would be better off with 2 financially but we are better off now in so many other ways.

iamnewpleasebenice · 09/05/2024 23:30

Tohaveandtohold · 09/05/2024 21:36

My husband didn’t want a third till DD2 was 3.5 . I always wanted 3 but I already came to terms with it as I can’t force him to have another child and also, we had a 6 year age gap already between DD1 and 2 so not keen on starting all over again.
One day, one of our family friends had a 3rd baby and dh said he’s not really against trying again if I still want to and that was it. He’s now 1 and we both know we are certainly done and done but i have no regrets , I love him to bits but I would have been happy either way.

You have the same age gaps as my kids. They have just turned 9 and 3 and I'm thinking about a third. Could I please message you privately just to ask how you managed the age gaps? I'm so worried about unintentionally neglecting my eldest while I have two little ones

iamnewpleasebenice · 09/05/2024 23:27

maybein2022 · 09/05/2024 21:35

OP, I had two and had always desperately wanted a big family. My husband was set on two for many reasons, and I had to make my peace with that although always still wished we could have another. Many years later we had an accidental pregnancy and as a result now have a third child- and you know what? Weirdly I know have a yearning for a 4th even though it is 99% never going to happen. I guess my point is some people (including me) never quite get over wanting ‘just one more.’

How has it been with 3 if you don't mind me asking? Did you have big age gaps!

CountryMumof4 · 09/05/2024 23:27

I understand where you're coming from, completely. My first two boys had problems at birth, but more so with my second. I couldn't breastfeed due to their complications and life was full of medical appointments for the first couple of years with my second. They're both absolutely fine now, and happy/healthy. While I didn't exactly plan for more, I think I did feel deep down a kind of longing for a 'normal' time of it (which, in reality, isn't a given). I had that with my 3rd - and actually, when it came to it, it felt odd NOT to have medical things non-stop. Ironically, he's the most difficult of them all now he's older lol. But I love them all dearly. I'm 43 now, and definitely won't have more. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do :-)

MalibuBarbieDreamHouse · 09/05/2024 23:25

My little girl turned 5 not too long ago, and I remember feeling so sad that my first little baby is growing up, and not that 6lb baby anymore, but I remember how she amazes me everyday, she is able to have full on conversations, we laugh together, we can do activities that we both actually enjoy… she is getting real personality and it’s so excited to see who she is going to becoming, remember there is so many wonderful years to come with our not so little babies!! And she still loves cuddles!

TheaBrandt · 09/05/2024 23:22

Honestly the pregnancy/ newborn and baby stage is such a tiny part of the parenting journey though it doesn’t seem it at the time.

We stopped at two as did most other families and very glad we did. Even easy teens are extremely expensive and labour intensive we frequently say thank got there are only two of them. Also two of the same sex similar age can make for an easy life if they broadly get on. We have been able to do so much with ours as a family as not hampered by a baby or much younger child

KatieJ2023 · 09/05/2024 23:21

I have three, like you, we had 2 but I longed for a third. It’s crazy busy but I honestly love it. My older 2 were 5 and 3and a half when number 3 was born. The younger years are amazing but also hard - I always remember what a lovely old friend said to me “ the younger years are brilliant and insane at the same time but always think about who will be sat around your table in the years ahead”. I think I was also conscious that we’re older parents so like to think of them having each other when we’re no longer here.

HcbSS · 09/05/2024 23:09

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 23:03

Thank you, that’s such a helpful reply

No problem!
Mine are now 9 and almost 7 - fantastic ages. As it was sunny today and I finished work early we went after school to a cafe before Brownies/tennis and sat outside and chatted about the day, what we want to do at the weekend etc. Honestly when you get to spend time like that with your kids, you appreciate how brilliant they are at the age they are, when they can talk to you, play with you, do things with you. Parenting really isn't all about the newborn stage - in fact it is a tiny, tiny part of it (and not necessarily the best).

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 23:03

HcbSS · 09/05/2024 23:00

Well I guess I mean he can live like any other child would. Be potty trained, go to school, make friends, learn, run, jump, express himself, one day cook, run a home, drive, have a job and his own family - not rely on you for the rest of his life well into adulthood.
A periodic appointment is fine, something you can manage and see just like an annual trip to the dentist. I hope the next goes well.

Thank you, that’s such a helpful reply

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HcbSS · 09/05/2024 23:00

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 22:44

Thank you for your words it’s really helping me to make sense of all my feelings.

Just out of interest, your phrasing “permanently affected” struck a chord with me. He is considered “fixed” after his surgery but has to have check ups once every 6 months, hopefully if the next appt goes well it’ll change to yearly appointments. Is this considered permanently affected? I think I bury my head in the sand sometimes trying to forget all about it but maybe I’m being too optimistic?

Well I guess I mean he can live like any other child would. Be potty trained, go to school, make friends, learn, run, jump, express himself, one day cook, run a home, drive, have a job and his own family - not rely on you for the rest of his life well into adulthood.
A periodic appointment is fine, something you can manage and see just like an annual trip to the dentist. I hope the next goes well.

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 22:44

HcbSS · 09/05/2024 22:11

Having seen your newborn baby so so poorly (and mercifully he is now fine), would you ever risk having a child that could have the same condition? What if next time it's even worse and your child is permanently affected. If that wouldn't throw an unwelcome spanner in the works in your nice family set up, nothing will.
The newborn stage is not the only part of parenthood. Yes you 'missed' that with your son but you have years and years ahead to thankfully enjoy him, now healthy, and watch him grow into a lovely toddler and child.

Thank you for your words it’s really helping me to make sense of all my feelings.

Just out of interest, your phrasing “permanently affected” struck a chord with me. He is considered “fixed” after his surgery but has to have check ups once every 6 months, hopefully if the next appt goes well it’ll change to yearly appointments. Is this considered permanently affected? I think I bury my head in the sand sometimes trying to forget all about it but maybe I’m being too optimistic?

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HcbSS · 09/05/2024 22:11

Having seen your newborn baby so so poorly (and mercifully he is now fine), would you ever risk having a child that could have the same condition? What if next time it's even worse and your child is permanently affected. If that wouldn't throw an unwelcome spanner in the works in your nice family set up, nothing will.
The newborn stage is not the only part of parenthood. Yes you 'missed' that with your son but you have years and years ahead to thankfully enjoy him, now healthy, and watch him grow into a lovely toddler and child.

merrymelodies · 09/05/2024 21:51

I have two, my dsis has three. She told me she regretted having a 3rd and made her dh get the snip.

Sugarcoatedalmonds · 09/05/2024 21:43

I had 2 very difficult pregnancies and births but I would absolutely love a third... and a fourth... I don't think its on the cards for us personally but I'm incredibly sad about it.

lizzietaylorreynolds · 09/05/2024 21:42

I went through something a bit similar. I felt I missed out on a lot of my second child's babyhood rather traumatically and wanted another shot at it! What I finally realized was that even if the third's babyhood was perfect (which is far from guaranteed, as I know third children who have challenging health/developmental struggles) then I would probably just feel WORSE that my second child's was not!

Turns out, I didn't want another child, really (and for many reasons it wasn't a good idea for us); I wanted a time machine. But I can't have one, and once I accepted that, I am very happy with our very close family of four.

Kitkat1523 · 09/05/2024 21:39

Welovecrumpets · 09/05/2024 21:14

Oh come on room sharing is hardly neglect 🙄

It’s not neglect of course….but it’s not what I wanted for my children…..I didn’t want 2 boys with an age difference of 7 year sharing ….and I didn’t want my DD to share with a brother as she grew up and became a tween and teenager you might be fine with this🤷‍♀️…so you do you

Tohaveandtohold · 09/05/2024 21:36

My husband didn’t want a third till DD2 was 3.5 . I always wanted 3 but I already came to terms with it as I can’t force him to have another child and also, we had a 6 year age gap already between DD1 and 2 so not keen on starting all over again.
One day, one of our family friends had a 3rd baby and dh said he’s not really against trying again if I still want to and that was it. He’s now 1 and we both know we are certainly done and done but i have no regrets , I love him to bits but I would have been happy either way.

maybein2022 · 09/05/2024 21:35

OP, I had two and had always desperately wanted a big family. My husband was set on two for many reasons, and I had to make my peace with that although always still wished we could have another. Many years later we had an accidental pregnancy and as a result now have a third child- and you know what? Weirdly I know have a yearning for a 4th even though it is 99% never going to happen. I guess my point is some people (including me) never quite get over wanting ‘just one more.’

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 21:33

GeorgeBeckett · 09/05/2024 21:13

Just to warn you - my first spent 4 months in hospital, surgery, lifelong condition. Went for another. No 2 has a completely unrelated but also serious diagnosis and had surgery and spent months in hospital. I did kind of think there would be healing from the trauma of the first time when we decided to go for it.

I don’t regret it and love them dearly. And I get what you mean. I do slightly wonder about a 3rd but know it isn’t sensible with our house size and finances and the risk of whatever else could happen after our luck.

But my own siblings are spread 2 close together and then a little afterthought and it’s been great from that side of things!

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Thank you for sharing your experience I’m so sorry for what you went through. When your child has serious surgery it stays with you. I hope you are all doing ok!

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WithACatLikeTread · 09/05/2024 21:33

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 09/05/2024 19:26

I desperately wanted a third, then a fourth and a fifth...finally stopped at the sixth 😁

Your point?

Kobbletrip · 09/05/2024 21:30

rocke · 09/05/2024 20:37

I had a not identical but similar experience with my second having a PICU admission as a newborn and being very unwell. Then when he was 4 months COVID hit so his babyhood was not what I expected or planned for and I also felt quite traumatised by what had happened. I had even before I had him thought I would like a third, but the feelings I had around what happened definitely made me feel like I had an even stronger urge for another. I felt like I didn't want that to be my last experience of having a newborn and that a more positive experience would somehow make up for what I missed with my second.

Like you I'm hugely lucky that my second is now healthy and with no lasting effects of what happened, and obviously he has no memory of any of it.

My husband didn't want a third and now that they're 7 and 4 I'm pretty much at peace with it and can see the positives of our family size. I think some of the things that have helped me get to this point are:

  1. I accessed talking therapies that helped me to process what had happened. Having a baby in PICU is a massive thing to go through and counselling or other talking therapies can be really helpful to talk it through.
  1. Time has helped, both with my feelings about what happened and also with the urge to have another.
  1. Reminding myself that there are no guarantees with any of this stuff, for anyone. I could have another child and have a similar or worse thing happen. And even if I had another and everything went fine, I would still feel sad at times about what happened with my second, and that's ok. Another baby wouldn't cancel out what happened. I definitely idealised the "normal" experience of having a newborn as well, whereas the reality is that it can be a really difficult time for lots of people for all sorts of reasons.

You’ve put my feelings into words much better than I did. Thank you for your reply it’s incredible helpful.
im sorry for the experience you went through. It changes you x

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pitterypattery00 · 09/05/2024 21:27

@Kobbletrip I can absolutely relate to your feeling to wanting to have a 'normal' newborn experience. My one child was born during lockdown and hardly met anyone in his first year. I look at new mums now at baby groups, in cafes, being with grandparents etc and I feel a very deep sadness on all we missed out on. We have no nice photo of the three of us when he was born as he needed medical intervention, then my partner had to leave due to COVID restrictions. And then feeding was horrendous for first month or so meaning we couldn't leave house - again I see people out and about with their newborns and feel sad that when mine was that age we were having an awful time and barely getting through each day. I don't want a second child but that doesn't mean I don't yearn for what I missed out on and wish I could do it all again 'normally' (but I am also very aware that many people's experiences are much worse and so I try and keep that sense of perspective).

earther · 09/05/2024 21:22

I stopped at 2 both adults now i never had the urge for anymore.
My sister stopped at one then had another 18 year later.
My friend had 2 but got round her husband for a 3rd and it more than hard work she said she wished she stopped at 2.

Welovecrumpets · 09/05/2024 21:14

Kitkat1523 · 09/05/2024 20:43

Are you rich enough to give 3 everything? ….their own rooms…still have the same holidays you would have had with 2 ….still be able to pay for all their activities…..be able to provide for uni for them all….if so then that’s great …..I’m 59 now with 3 school age GDs ……I would only have 2 if I hadn’t have had my 3rd DC ….so no regrets really……but in order to give my 3 children everything I would have given my 2 children I have worked full time for more years tHan I would have wanted

Oh come on room sharing is hardly neglect 🙄

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