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I need my brother-in-law out of my house but it will impact on his children

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MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 16:40

Sorry guys but this is going to be an emotional dump. I live with my partner in a tiny 2 bed house and it's barely big enough for us. We're moving for a fresh start in a few months but there's one problem, his brother. He's been living with us rent free for 7 months now due to a relationship breakdown. He's unemployed, in debt and has just made a lot of stupid decisions. He never asked to move in, just showed up one day and never left and somehow even got a key cut! I told my partner I did not want his brother living with us but alas more and more of his stuff started showing up. Realistically I would have thrown him out months ago but there's a spanner in the works, he has 2 toddlers who are at my house constantly. They are here 4/7 days a week at least as their mother works (obviously he's unemployed so expected to do the child care? Idk and don't want to interfere in their system). They're messy, noisy and are displaying behaviour problems due to the awful situation they're in with their parents. They all live together in my spare bedroom which unfortunately was being used as storage prior to their arrival, I have nowhere else to put my stuff. It's not a good environment for the children, they have ruined my property, eating my food and my bills have sky rocketed. I've told my partner time and time again his brother is not moving house with us but he won't back me up because of the children, he doesn't want to make his brother homeless and the children's lives worse.

This whole situation has impacted my mental and physical health so much. I don't want to leave our bedroom on my days off work because I feel my privacy is non existent and I work nights so never get any sleep in the day due to the shouting kids. What on earth do I do?

AIBU if I tell him he has 6 weeks to go? This isn't my responsibility

OP posts:
wizzywig · 09/05/2024 19:58

Pull out, rent a room. What's the bet his brother manages to find a job

GeckoFeet · 09/05/2024 19:54

Why would you want to be with a man who has no respect for your wishes, no care for your home, is fine with putting a financial burden on you and walks all over your boundaries?

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2024 19:53

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 19:37

I wanted to be a joint decision. That he would support me so there would be no resentment.

Spoiler: this isn't going to happen.

You kick out the brother and he resents you.
The brother stays and you resent your partner.

Decide what YOU want and just get on with it.

Cherrysoup · 09/05/2024 19:52

If you make him homeless, he will get (I think) emergency accommodation. I think it’s a choice for your dp between him and you. You have to tell the bil and your dp. The children can go to their mum’s/childcare.

Soggyasscrumpets · 09/05/2024 19:51

Hello87abc · 09/05/2024 19:38

Unfortunately you are going to have to do the dirty work. Ask him what his plans are when you guys move, because he is not coming

And the way you are going to play it when you have the conversation is that WE are wondering if you have contacted the council about accommodation as WE are moving and there will be no room as WE need the spare rooms for hobbies ( invent some )

Nicole1111 · 09/05/2024 19:48

Where are his parents in all this? What are they doing to help? Also, have you considered that evicting him might benefit him in terms of housing support. Could you frame it that way to your partner.

Soggyasscrumpets · 09/05/2024 19:47

If your BIL is not working who is feeding the kids at your house ? And with what ?

muggart · 09/05/2024 19:47

Has BIL made a good faith effort for find work or is he being a lazy bugger? That would determine my approach.

If he's generally a good guy in a bad situation and has been trying to find work then I'd see if I could help him get a job somehow. Job hunting is time consuming and if he's got toddlers running around distracting him then with a bit of additional help he might be able to find something.

If you feel like he's taking the piss then perhaps a more aggressive approach is needed.

ButterCrackers · 09/05/2024 19:45

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 19:37

I wanted to be a joint decision. That he would support me so there would be no resentment.

Just you feeling unhappy with your house trashed and you paying for the food bill and no doubt everything else. So the joint niceness hasn’t happened to you. Tell your dp enough is enough. You deserve better. Get your own place by selling this place and buying/renting on your own. They are freeloaders.

Pussycat22 · 09/05/2024 19:45

Back out now. Please.

ScribblingPixie · 09/05/2024 19:44

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 19:37

I wanted to be a joint decision. That he would support me so there would be no resentment.

But it isn't a joint decision. It's only you who wants his brother gone. So you're going to have to play hardball unfortunately.

Snowfalling · 09/05/2024 19:42

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 19:37

I wanted to be a joint decision. That he would support me so there would be no resentment.

Yet you don't seem to mind your own growing resentment. Just tell the bil to move out. he needs to learn to take responsibility for himself. sounds like he makes stupid decisions and expects everyone else to bail him out. He's a parent, he needs to provide for his dc.

Hello87abc · 09/05/2024 19:38

Unfortunately you are going to have to do the dirty work. Ask him what his plans are when you guys move, because he is not coming

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 19:37

Thursdaygirl · 09/05/2024 19:21

if your DP won’t grow a pair and tell him to move out,then what’s stopping you telling him, OP? It might be DP’s brother, but its a jointly owned house, so you have every right to do this.

Are you afraid that your DP would undermine you, if you did this?

I wanted to be a joint decision. That he would support me so there would be no resentment.

OP posts:
WaltzingWaters · 09/05/2024 19:34

Definitely need an ultimatum. And stick to it.

Dibbydoos · 09/05/2024 19:31

He won't get help unless he's made homeless. He needs to call the local homeless helpline and arrange a place for himself and his kids. What a ridiculous living situ. Your partner isn't husband material, I'm afraid....

Dweetfidilove · 09/05/2024 19:28

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 16:46

Buying both times, no I couldn't afford to live on my own

Edited

The piss people will take when they have you ‘stuck’.

They are paying you no mind, because they know you can’t afford to live on your own.

That is not a good position to be in, and especially not with a partner who doesn’t value your feelings or mental well-being.

I’d start working on that as a priority.

Thursdaygirl · 09/05/2024 19:27

And if you gave your DP an ultimatum, ie it’s you or the brother, how would that pan out?

I know it should be an obvious choice, but so many men are really weak when it comes to family members

Thursdaygirl · 09/05/2024 19:21

if your DP won’t grow a pair and tell him to move out,then what’s stopping you telling him, OP? It might be DP’s brother, but its a jointly owned house, so you have every right to do this.

Are you afraid that your DP would undermine you, if you did this?

Theothername · 09/05/2024 19:19

Realistically your dp and his db and dc seem to be a package deal now. You need to base future decisions on this, especially binding financial ones.

Is your dp working, and how are the finances split?

IncompleteSenten · 09/05/2024 19:18

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 16:46

Buying both times, no I couldn't afford to live on my own

Edited

Well you're fucked then really aren't you? Because he will move with you, your partner doesn't give a shit how you feel and you'll be stuck with him.
Maybe you need to reconsider your relationship as a last resort.

Cornflakelover · 09/05/2024 19:11

One thing to remember is your buyers soliciters will expect the property empty of tennants / family and yourself

so this could be difficult if your DH refuses to kick his brother out or if brother refuses to move

Kesio · 09/05/2024 19:11

This is ruining your relationship

you Need to tell your dp this

you should be having a wonderful kid free time. Do you have sex like a carefree young couple? (Sorry but it’s an indicator of how far his brother has plunged your relationship into the shitter)

I would consider halting the new house purchase and asking dp to buy you out so you can leave him. Can your parents help you buy an alternative property on your own?

Greywitch2 · 09/05/2024 19:10

MebraZebra · 09/05/2024 16:55

Yeah we both own our current property and have bought the next property together. He keeps saying to me that yes he will ask him to leave and then never does. We aren't expected to move in for a few months but I'm at my wits end now. I want to tell him to leave but can never seem to get him without the children being present. It's such a messy situation.

I would tell him that I am pulling out of buying the next property. If you are not expecting to move for a few months then presumably you haven't yet exchanged contracts. I would tell him that his brother has 6 weeks to find somewhere else to go, and someone else to mooch off and at that point it was either him or me.

If he's not out in 6 weeks then I would be ending the relationship and telling your bf you are dumped and I'll be moving out and expecting my share of the property.

It's the only way he's going to listen.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 09/05/2024 18:52

Time to have some stern words with DH... new house, new home life!
I would raise concerns about the brother living in a spare bedroom wit 2 small children... it's not healthy, both physically and mentally for all 3 of them.

Have the adress or phone number for your local council / housing department ready and suggest the brother to present himself as homeless with the children in tow. This can be followed up by a letter confirming the sale of your current property....

Show him how much his "D"B costs. Tell him where the money could go instead - Something DH really loves or much needed renovations on the new house.

... I am sure there are other points you can raise.

In the end, if DH doesn't come to his senses, have a long chat with yourself and decide if this is the kind of relationship you want.