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flabbergastedalways · 09/05/2024 15:34

Scottish school, my daughter is going through her sexual health education.

We are a very open family so all good and they sent the slides through of what they are talking about but there is one slide about periods which i think seems wrong.

It says

"It’s important to
remember that not all
girls have periods. Every
girl is different and
unique!"

How can that be right, i looked on the NHS website and it specifically says

"If you haven’t started your period by around 16 though, it’s a good idea to see your doctor to find out why it hasn’t happened yet. However, a delay in starting periods isn’t usually anything to worry about."

So in actual fact it isnt normal!

All the slides are done by RSHP.Scot.

Am i just reading this wrong or not understanding?

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LordPercyPercy · 10/05/2024 12:06

Can all of the other people who hate trans children please write a comment to agree with me.

No-one "hates trans children". People hate the push to medicate and surgically mutilate minors and young people.

flabbergastedalways · 10/05/2024 06:55

CultOfRamen · 09/05/2024 23:30

FGS The obtuseness of these posts…..

just write, I think the Scottish ed board is promoting transgender ideology and I don’t like it.

I think all girls have periods and if they don’t they are boys pretending to be girls.

I don’t like or agree with this. Can all of the other people who hate trans children please write a comment to agree with me.

instead of this really irritating pretend investigation into a side subject, that low and behold, reveals that you don’t agree with trans children, trans legislation or attempts at being inclusive.

Not once, in this post have I ever said I don’t agree with trans children.

I initially read the paragraph as ITS NORMAL to not have a period, after comments I’ve realised this isn’t how it reads.

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flabbergastedalways · 10/05/2024 06:52

Josette77 · 09/05/2024 23:35

Ah, so you thought it was about trans kids and that's why you made this post?

Of course you did. Why not just be upfront about it?

No, I’ve already said that’s not what I thought.

The second part of the post was what I was speaking about

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Mama2many73 · 09/05/2024 23:58

Sorry but i don't jump to the conclusion that you and others have and read thatvstatement totally different .
There ARE females (born female) who have NEVER had a period for several different reasons. Your assumption was therefore 'she' just be 'he'
I.was nearly 16 and would have gone to have the situation investigated had it been much longer.

Josette77 · 09/05/2024 23:35

flabbergastedalways · 09/05/2024 15:42

Exactly this!!

Ah, so you thought it was about trans kids and that's why you made this post?

Of course you did. Why not just be upfront about it?

CultOfRamen · 09/05/2024 23:30

FGS The obtuseness of these posts…..

just write, I think the Scottish ed board is promoting transgender ideology and I don’t like it.

I think all girls have periods and if they don’t they are boys pretending to be girls.

I don’t like or agree with this. Can all of the other people who hate trans children please write a comment to agree with me.

instead of this really irritating pretend investigation into a side subject, that low and behold, reveals that you don’t agree with trans children, trans legislation or attempts at being inclusive.

Ferngardens · 09/05/2024 23:27

Think of it the other way, if you're saying that no periods = trans then if someone is female and doesn't have periods for a medical reason you're not validating their experience and who knows what rumours and things they might feel because their medical condition is now caught up in a culture war. It's far more likey that a female from birth is going to not have periods for a medical reason than there are all these trans girls in school.

HangryOliveMentor · 09/05/2024 23:21

If you look up the slideshow, this doesn’t seem to be a trans thing at all. It’s all sex-based.

I think it just means what it says, that not all girls (females) have periods.

The OP seems to be misinterpreting this as saying “it is normal for girls not to have periods”.

Merryoldgoat · 09/05/2024 23:16

Well there are some conditions that mean a girl might not have a period.

But it’s not ‘normal’

Ringshanks · 09/05/2024 23:08

I played for a national sports team all through my teenage years and into adulthood. I didn’t really get any periods and had to make drastic changes to my training and body shape in order to get them going so I could conceive . It wasn’t unusual amongst my teammates not to have periods

Birch101 · 09/05/2024 22:47

Honestly my first thought was with eating conditions and the absence of periods or hormone imbalance,

But at least you can now talk about primary and secondary amenorrhoea

flabbergastedalways · 09/05/2024 22:42

Didimum · 09/05/2024 18:39

Why start the post under guise of ‘confused naivety’ when you already know exactly what it means and are annoyed about it?

Because I was confused, I didn’t immediately assume they were meaning “trans boys” because the entire slide show doesn’t really lean towards that. I felt like the message was harmful but actually reading some great replies I think maybe it’s not as harmful as I immediately thought but perhaps it could be worded better.

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flabbergastedalways · 09/05/2024 22:38

Characterbuilding · 09/05/2024 18:23

Initially I agreed but upon finding the whole slideshow that quote appears to be just an extract of the slide in question.
In full context I don’t think it definitively refers to transgender individuals.

Amazing thanks, I tried to attach the full slide later on in the thread and it wouldn’t allow me

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MagPieWhyPie · 09/05/2024 21:33

I’d love to believe that it’s worded like that due to the various real FEMALE health issues which means some girls don’t have periods or due to the ages of the “girls” meaning some won’t have started so it’s trying to reassure them this is okay. But we all know it’s been done by Scottish govt and is therefore really about not excluding “unique” girls aka BOYS. My DC is doing same lessons currently and there is a whole week about trans so they can discuss then how some transgirls are girls who won’t have periods during those lessons rather than muddy the waters for female children with regards to what to expect from their puberty.

WeeGreenJumper · 09/05/2024 21:30

Yanbu OP. A statement like that needs qualification, if they are talking about trans girls then I think it would be helpful to say that explicitly. Lack of periods is a concern for biological females and should not be described simply as normal variation https://www.contemporarypediatrics.com/view/menstruation-sixth-vital-sign

Menstruation: The sixth vital sign

After blood pressure, heart rate, oxygenation, temperature, and pain, pediatricians should include an evaluation of menstrual cycles for adolescent females when assessing overall health, according to a recommendation from the American College of Obstet...

https://www.contemporarypediatrics.com/view/menstruation-sixth-vital-sign

DrKovac · 09/05/2024 21:20

Trulyme · 09/05/2024 21:08

You had the menopause at 16??!!

Wow I have never heard of that.

I’m sorry you had to go through that at such a young age.

Yup. Very unusual. Consultant told me I was a “bit unique” but to “carry on having a normal life” 🤔 bit hard to do that after being told that information and that you couldn’t have your own children, especially at 16!

SavetheNHS · 09/05/2024 21:18

Children can get ovarian or uterine cancer which can mean they never have periods, children can have pituitary problems and don't have periods. They may have been injured in a car accident and can't have periods.
Some girls have different reproductive organs so don't have periods. The NHS website is advising parents and teens who are EXPECTING periods when to seek advice if they haven't happened.
It is meant to be inclusive, and that is a good thing.

AfraidToRun · 09/05/2024 21:10

I lost my periods for a year, did I suddenly stop being a woman?

Jeannne92 · 09/05/2024 21:08

I have worked with women who have never had periods as a result of malnutrition.

Trulyme · 09/05/2024 21:08

DrKovac · 09/05/2024 20:11

Totally agree with this.

No periods this end by 16. GP visit and tests, I was diagnosed as early menopause…at 16. Very uncommon (at that age; early menopause these days isn’t as uncommon).

I was slim / slender, hence mum and I waited in case puberty kicked in, it didn’t and it was good to get checked out.

You had the menopause at 16??!!

Wow I have never heard of that.

I’m sorry you had to go through that at such a young age.

Trulyme · 09/05/2024 21:06

Some females cannot have periods (due to hormonal imbalances, sexual abuse, cancer etc) but it’s rare and if they’ve not started their periods by age 16 then they should see a GP.

The wording is quite irresponsible because although no one should feel ashamed for not having a period, it could be an indication of something wrong.

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/05/2024 21:00

I'd always assumed the 'canny' Scots were a tad more 'smarty-pants than your average Englisher; but for the life of me I can not undertand in what direction they're letting the SNP Govt, and it's naysayers, take them.

Certainly not for Scottish Independence anymore, which I thought was their whole point for existence.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 09/05/2024 20:52

LordPercyPercy · 09/05/2024 15:35

They're basically saying it's because some "girls" are male. Ie they're full of shit.

This!! The fucking world has lost it.

LakeTiticaca · 09/05/2024 20:51

There are girls who don't have periods for medical reasons.
Having a penis is not a medical reason 🙄

DrKovac · 09/05/2024 20:11

Screamingabdabz · 09/05/2024 16:51

“It may be more common but it's not the biological norm and should be investigated medically to ensure no hidden issues.”

This needs repeating for the hard of thinking.

All of the examples given already on this thread had underlying issues which if it had not been for that issue, they would otherwise expect to have periods - because that is the default ‘normality’. It’s the whole biological basis on which women can carry babies ffs. I can’t believe the weasel words around this just to appease the batshit La La land dwellers of this world! 🙄

Totally agree with this.

No periods this end by 16. GP visit and tests, I was diagnosed as early menopause…at 16. Very uncommon (at that age; early menopause these days isn’t as uncommon).

I was slim / slender, hence mum and I waited in case puberty kicked in, it didn’t and it was good to get checked out.

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