To be annoyed by total phone ban

That isn't the norm in most schools though.

About parents having very little idea about what things are like on our schools.

Our school does have form time at the end of the day, and phones are retrieved then.

But who do they collect them off at the end of the day because schools don't have form time then? The 30 children from one form wouldn't all be together in the same lesson at the end of the day either

@Hateam are you a parent?

Proved your point about what?

Perhaps "for safety" kids could have a cheap Doro phone to keep in their bag instead of a smart phone. No SM/internet etc. just a phone that makes phone calls.

You've pretty much proved my point.
Thank you.

Ours also does it. The form teacher sorts it at registration so they're dealing with 30 kids apiece. The feedback from staff has been very positive, as well as the feedback from parents.

What do you mean by "our schools" I might not have a good idea of what is going on in your particular school but I have a good idea of what is likely to alienate parents in general and make them less helpful in enforcing school rules.

schools also can't have it all ways

• ban phones and sim containing devices
• use school app that only work on phones and not other decices
• set homework where they need internet and not provide wifi

my teens often have after school activities where they need to get to themselves and one location requires a smart phone to check in. a total ban would piss me off (but our school handles it sensibly so all is good)

A couple of thousand phones??🤔

@Hateam this is true.
Those who want to get round the rules will.

Maybe the answer is the government up the age from parental controls and company responsibility.
All children's social media stuff is locked between 8.45 and 16.00 regardless of days of the week and holidays.

If China can control social media to that extent so can the UK. Take it out of the schools hands, away from teachers who have a job to do. Put.it onto the companies who are making money out of it

There are many YouTube videos that show how to open these without the dedicated magnet.

What if you bring in an old phone and put it in the pouch and keep your actual phone hidden?

You have no idea what is going on in our schools.

Our kids school have yonder pouches. You put the phone in at the beginning of the day and it locks and unlocks at the end if the day using some sort of machine thing. It’s not 100% effective but it’s definitely cut down phone usage.

One or two might be if it is their child that has been banned from having a phone AND they don't believe the school. However, just banning all phones regardless of whether the student breaks rules and regardless of whether it impacts the students safety (and parents stress levels) is going to anger almost all parents and is actually likely to make them less helpful with enforcing school rules in the future. Why go for the latter option rather than the first.

That's a perfect ly sensible rule... that many parents will get angry about.

This is a really good summation. I find many type 2 rules tiresome - but support the school on these.

Type 3 rules - if they impact my child- then not so much.

I am guessing that those who are using the argument 'we never had mobile phones in my day and we did ok' think that a total phone ban IE not being able to have any phone at school (even if not using it) sits in category 2.

Those who are saying 'but they shouldn't use in class' are missing the point too.
Those who are saying handset only with only calls allowed. Are also missing the point.
If the rules said anything other than 'total phone ban'- then, imo, it sits in category 2.

The school has gone for the nuclear 'ban all phones' option- which does have negative impact and therefore is in category 3.

I don't believe that large numbers of children won't follow the rules on not having phones out in lesson times. If this happens the school obviously has big problems. Regardless can't the rule just be that if the phone is seen it's instant detention. If a student breaks the rule more than once they are not allowed a phone.

It seems at the moment some schools are punishing and making life difficult for all students and parents not to mention less safe because of the actions of a minority.

^^This.

Phones are not a problem. The problem is children who will not follow rules and parents who support them. They do as they like, think they should not face the consequences and their parents back them up vociferously.

Shit-parenting is the issue.

The fundamental problem here is large numbers of children WILL NOT follow the rules and time and time again they are backed-up by their parents.

Schools have been pushed into a corner.

The parents who have created the problem are now moaning about the problem.

I feel sorry for secondary school teachers. No matter what they do they are the enemy when the Real villains are the large number of shit parents.

Following this phone rule can have negative consequences also so it's very different than following the rules regarding driving licenses.