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To be annoyed by total phone ban

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TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 07:25

My child's school which is a busy city location has a total phone ban. So you aren't allowed to take any type of phone to school at all even if it stays hidden in a bag and is on silent and never used. They do bag searches and use metal detectors to find students breaking the rules.

If your child's phone is found they get a detention and you can only get it back by visiting the school in person.

So yesterday my child's phone was found in a bag search and removed. There were awful transport issues and it took them several hours to get home. In the meanwhile we had no way to contact each other.

I can't get the phone back due to work and my husband being away for work. It just stresses me out that he won't be able to get in touch if there's a problem. Expressing my feelings here as there is no point complaining to the school. They don't listen to parental feedback.

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jannier · 09/05/2024 13:19

Tippexy · 09/05/2024 07:39

Has he been taught how to use a pay phone to do a reverse charge call?

Would be lucky to find one though they just don't exist in most places.

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:19

strangewomenlyinginponds · 09/05/2024 13:12

Yep, it's really, really common in schools who don't want the disruption of phones.

Since the OP hasn't said they don't do that (I don't think) perhaps they do but she doesn't fancy that solution.

OP has made it more than clear that they don't do that.

MorningSunshineSparkles · 09/05/2024 13:19

Take the time off work if you need to deal with the school, why wouldn’t you? Your child’s safety is far more important than your job.

TeabySea · 09/05/2024 13:19

It's a ridiculous rule.
Where I am, the only way kids can have a bus ticket is to have an app/virtual ticket.
So they have a load of kids stranded with no way to get to school.

I'm not quite sure what the answer is here but certainly phones should returned at the end of the school day as the absence of them could be seen to pose a safeguarding risk.
Assuming there are a number of parents who feel the same then I'd suggest getting something in writing from a group of like-minded people which lay out the concerns etc. and take it to the board of governors of the school.

VestibuleVirgin · 09/05/2024 13:19

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:02

And in those days there was relatively easy access to pay phones. Have a think. Is that still the case?

You make it sound as if thete was a box every 2 meters. Boxes were few and far between

TripleDaisySummer · 09/05/2024 13:19

Any kid who's changing buses are probably in a town with a phone box.

There are no phone boxes and many kids change buses in this city and nearby town - they tend to have phones to deal with any problem.

There's supposedly 20,000 working phone booths left in UK but I can't think of one in 5 nearby urban areas at all.

Anameisaname · 09/05/2024 13:19

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 12:59

If he'd complied with the rules, there would still have been the problem that he had no way of contacting OP when he had major problems with his journey back home. Do you think that is a remotely sensible use of school rules?

I don't personally agree with the rules. But the rules are known and enforced. So I am not sure complaining that they were enforced is reasonable per se !

ScrollingLeaves · 09/05/2024 13:18

They could ban smart phones.

You can still get the little ones that you can send texts or call on.

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:17

AFmammaG · 09/05/2024 08:30

School budgets are stripped back to ridiculous levels. Large schools don’t have the staffing or time to manage phone collections and handing them back in
This is the issue. Plus you get the ones who hide them (OP I’m looking at you) so a total ban seems easier to police from the school perspective.
Our secondary has a confiscation policy so they are allowed in school bags. They will shortly go the same way as the OP’s school because kids use them in the toilets and won’t come out, they call home and make stuff up, parents then call school, we get the kids who use them to bully, the kids who record teachers without their knowledge, fights being videoed and put on social media. I mean I could go on.

A total ban is the way forward.

Surely the way forward is not stripping back school budgets to ridiculous levels.

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:16

strangewomenlyinginponds · 09/05/2024 13:12

Yep, it's really, really common in schools who don't want the disruption of phones.

Since the OP hasn't said they don't do that (I don't think) perhaps they do but she doesn't fancy that solution.

Nope they do not allow any phones at all. I thought I had said that several times! I would be delighted if my child was able to hand the phone in or store it in a locker. I have even been searching online to see if there is a locker near the school where he could leave it. Some one suggested newsagents will sometimes do this. Gap in the market near some schools to have little lockers in a newsagent perhaps.

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Octavia64 · 09/05/2024 13:14

Possible solutions:

GPS tracker so you know where your child it (not a phone obviously)

I think you can still buy pagers - they are not phones but you would be able to communicate with your child (if not him with you).

AirTag is the obvious but you say not Apple.

TripleDaisySummer · 09/05/2024 13:14

We'v got one coming in - youngest Y10.

We don't have the travel issues and mostly expect it will be fine in bag turned off. However school often pushes messages during day via their app and teams which kid snow won't see but this doesn't see to have been understood.

I assume samsug smart tags would help know where child is but won't help with communication with you. It does seem overkill form the school and journeys on public transport these days are fraught with unexpected problems but if they won't listen to parents not sure there is anything to be done.

Needanewname42 · 09/05/2024 13:13

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 13:09

there really was not in many areas. There was one phone box half way through my 45 minute walk home from school.

I bet they'd have been others on a slight de-tour. I maybe only passed one on a similar walk but school had one, if I'd taken a couple of slight detours they'd have been others, one in the sports center, one in a shop, out side the sub-post office.

Any kid who's changing buses are probably in a town with a phone box.

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:13

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 13:10

This will rarely happen. Can you get him to memorise your number and if it happens again ask a stranger to text or call you to tell you what has happened?

I am afraid this is not very rare in London at all and I don't wish to encourage my child to approach strangers.

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strangewomenlyinginponds · 09/05/2024 13:12

JassyRadlett · 09/05/2024 13:08

I'm another whose school takes this approach and it doesn't seem to be an issue. Taking them in and handing them back during form time seems to deal with the 1200 phones to one person at once concern 😂

Anyway the feedback from the school is that the teachers like this approach as much as parents do.

Yep, it's really, really common in schools who don't want the disruption of phones.

Since the OP hasn't said they don't do that (I don't think) perhaps they do but she doesn't fancy that solution.

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:11

ThePassageOfTime · 09/05/2024 12:40

Get better at disguising the phone. For example a secret pocket in the lining of a bag or in a trainer sole?

Ooooo wrapped in foil in a lunch box, disguised as a sandwich

The schoool have driven you to this.

I think that is why they have the metal detectors. Apart from anything else does seem like a waste of the teacher's time to do all this bag searching. I mean you could just confiscate any phones that you saw!

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SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 13:10

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:08

It's because the tube line shut down. My child then wasn't able to call home about it to let us know where he was.

This will rarely happen. Can you get him to memorise your number and if it happens again ask a stranger to text or call you to tell you what has happened?

Tuftedandbusted · 09/05/2024 13:10

They should have lockers to put the phones during the day. Or have a phone box installed for the school children who need to phone their parents.
But on the whole I agree with no phones policy of schools. In fact children should be banned from using smart phones.

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 13:09

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:02

And in those days there was relatively easy access to pay phones. Have a think. Is that still the case?

there really was not in many areas. There was one phone box half way through my 45 minute walk home from school.

Mumofoneandone · 09/05/2024 13:08

Seems excessive action on the school's part. Has there been any consolation about this or reasoning for the rule change?
Sounds like the school can't be bothered to manage 'no phones ' in school - which imo is reasonable. Youngsters do need phones for travel before and after school, particularly with the number of transport issues.
Possibly contact the governors about it, as it is about a child's safety being put at risk travelling to and from school.
Whilst we use to manage without phones, life has changed since in so many ways and we've adapted to having mobiles. We can't just go back!

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:08

PollyPut · 09/05/2024 12:44

Several hours to get home?

Do you have a closer school?

It's because the tube line shut down. My child then wasn't able to call home about it to let us know where he was.

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JassyRadlett · 09/05/2024 13:08

menopausalmare · 09/05/2024 13:01

Horrendous idea. Who's going to be responsible for collecting, labelling, storing and redistributing 1200 phones each day? Not me!

I'm another whose school takes this approach and it doesn't seem to be an issue. Taking them in and handing them back during form time seems to deal with the 1200 phones to one person at once concern 😂

Anyway the feedback from the school is that the teachers like this approach as much as parents do.

PenelopeTitsdrop1990 · 09/05/2024 13:07

strangewomenlyinginponds · 09/05/2024 12:57

They don't allow phones to be handed in to the office in the morning? That seems unusual. Most schools will allow phones to be handed in and then collected at leaving time.

I'm assuming some schools won't want the responsibility if a phone was to go missing in their care?

Needanewname42 · 09/05/2024 13:05

menopausalmare · 09/05/2024 13:01

Horrendous idea. Who's going to be responsible for collecting, labelling, storing and redistributing 1200 phones each day? Not me!

I was thinking the same thing. That could easily be thousands of pounds worth. Who'd want to be responsible for making sure none are damaged (or accused of damaged) in the schools possession?

Cailin66 · 09/05/2024 13:05

Feeling so old. From the era of no phones, no school phone, no home phones. Even if you used a pay phone many parents wouldn't have had a phone, and even if they did, some didn't have cars. We all survived, got home on foot or by bus. This was the countryside so no public transport either.

The school could install a pay phone. And for those, when I went to boarding school, we had to queue. The horror.