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To be annoyed by total phone ban

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TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 07:25

My child's school which is a busy city location has a total phone ban. So you aren't allowed to take any type of phone to school at all even if it stays hidden in a bag and is on silent and never used. They do bag searches and use metal detectors to find students breaking the rules.

If your child's phone is found they get a detention and you can only get it back by visiting the school in person.

So yesterday my child's phone was found in a bag search and removed. There were awful transport issues and it took them several hours to get home. In the meanwhile we had no way to contact each other.

I can't get the phone back due to work and my husband being away for work. It just stresses me out that he won't be able to get in touch if there's a problem. Expressing my feelings here as there is no point complaining to the school. They don't listen to parental feedback.

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Allfur · 09/05/2024 13:38

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:25

My child doesn't want to change their school. It is not a trivial thing to change secondary school. Look at all the threads where a child changes school and gets assigned to bottom sets because the others are full. It's difficult potentially both socially and academically. Sometimes problems don't have easy solutions. Going to investigate android tags.

Well I guess they won't make the same mistake again, lesson learnt and all that

Mama1980 · 09/05/2024 13:36

My teen son does not have a phone, and never has. Initially it was my choice now it's his. He travels all over London, the one time he got into serious difficulties he went into a shop and asked for help - which was forthcoming.

SluggyMuggy · 09/05/2024 13:36

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:13

I am afraid this is not very rare in London at all and I don't wish to encourage my child to approach strangers.

When I was young we were taught to resolve situations by asking strangers for help. I was told to approach a woman with her own children or a member of station staff.
If you won't do that, there is really nothing you can do except check local travel delays.

GoodHeavens99 · 09/05/2024 13:36

useruserna · 09/05/2024 13:31

Sorry, haven't read the full thread - but could you ask for "dumb" phones to be allowed? ie ones that only can do calls and text and then are turned off & put away in school hours. It seems a reasonable compromise.

There's a grammar school near me and that's actually their phone policy now.

Allfur · 09/05/2024 13:34

CrispieCake · 09/05/2024 13:31

Children in London and other cities often travel across the city to school and have commutes of up to 90 minutes involving several trains/tube/buses. It's really not uncommon.

Poor kids, what a childhood

Grammarnut · 09/05/2024 13:34

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 09/05/2024 11:17

Again, as lots of people have explained, the world is different in lots of ways, in part because there is a widespread expectation that people will carry their own phones. My secondary school had payphones to call home, so it wasn't the case that there was no way of contacting a parent.

I remember once my bus home - the only bus, because I lived in a small village - just didn't turn up. I waited, alone as I was the only person from my secondary school who lived in my village, for a while and then went to the office of the bus station. I used their phone to ring home and when no one answered because mum wasn't yet home from work they paid for a taxi to take me home! All of that - a manned office in the bus station that allowed people to use its phone, a bus company that was so easily contactable and saw a stranded 12 year old as its responsibility - sounds like fiction now. It was 1998.

My parents had no phone, so no way of contacting them. The world has changed in ways that are detrimental to most of us - to the profit of a few. It's sad we have walked into this, but I don't know a way of walking out again.

GiacomettisCornetto · 09/05/2024 13:34

VestibuleVirgin · 09/05/2024 07:44

Some of us lived in a pre-mobile phone world. We survived

Yes we did. But is was a pre-mobile phone world we were living in.

ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife · 09/05/2024 13:33

I live in a small town up north.

it is BAFFLING to me that there are 11 year olds commuting all over London by themselves.

Shines a light on how wrapped in cotton wool the kids in my town are 🤯

CrispieCake · 09/05/2024 13:31

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:21

Good grief. How did children EVER cope without their own mobile phone?!!!

And how did the PARENTS cope without their children having their own mobile phone?

Utterly batshit! Get a grip @TeleGardenGnome

And as pps have said, surely there is a closer school than one that they have to get to via tube trains. Why does he not get a bus? How far away is this school (in miles?) If this happens a lot, why do you not look for a school closer to home?

Children in London and other cities often travel across the city to school and have commutes of up to 90 minutes involving several trains/tube/buses. It's really not uncommon.

useruserna · 09/05/2024 13:31

Sorry, haven't read the full thread - but could you ask for "dumb" phones to be allowed? ie ones that only can do calls and text and then are turned off & put away in school hours. It seems a reasonable compromise.

CrispieCake · 09/05/2024 13:28

The only way you're going to address this is to make it very, very inconvenient for the school to have this policy.

I'd start ringing the school office daily if there are any problems with your DC's transport home and ask them to pass on a message to your DC. I'd also ask your DC to return to school and ask the school office to contact you if they have any issues on the way home.

Encourage other parents to do the same. If the office starts getting dozens of calls daily and being asked to contact students, then it might make the school think twice.

daffodilandtulip · 09/05/2024 13:27

My kid wouldn't get to school without his phone, the bus pass is electronic only 🤷🏼‍♀️

SamPoodle123 · 09/05/2024 13:26

You could try a watch phone? They sell on amazon for 50 and work well. My ds uses that and it basically looks like a watch, but they can text and make calls with it. Plus you can use the locating device on it. So perhaps you could get around it that way.

MayMumm · 09/05/2024 13:25

What about smart watches??

ScrollingLeaves · 09/05/2024 13:25

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:22

It's not a question of complaining to the school. It's an issue of a school having a silly rule that impacts on their pupils' lives and safety outside school, and whether that should even be permitted.

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Nothing is having a greater impact on the well being and safety of children than smart phones themselves!

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 13:25

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:21

Good grief. How did children EVER cope without their own mobile phone?!!!

And how did the PARENTS cope without their children having their own mobile phone?

Utterly batshit! Get a grip @TeleGardenGnome

And as pps have said, surely there is a closer school than one that they have to get to via tube trains. Why does he not get a bus? How far away is this school (in miles?) If this happens a lot, why do you not look for a school closer to home?

My child doesn't want to change their school. It is not a trivial thing to change secondary school. Look at all the threads where a child changes school and gets assigned to bottom sets because the others are full. It's difficult potentially both socially and academically. Sometimes problems don't have easy solutions. Going to investigate android tags.

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UPALLNIGHTMNETTING · 09/05/2024 13:25

What is their reasoning for the ban?

At my secondary, we had a total phone ban. One day there was an unexpected leak and they had to close the school. The teachers then had to very bashfully ask the students if they had a phone to call their parents on 😂After that phones were allowed (but off, in a bag).

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:25

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:21

Good grief. How did children EVER cope without their own mobile phone?!!!

And how did the PARENTS cope without their children having their own mobile phone?

Utterly batshit! Get a grip @TeleGardenGnome

And as pps have said, surely there is a closer school than one that they have to get to via tube trains. Why does he not get a bus? How far away is this school (in miles?) If this happens a lot, why do you not look for a school closer to home?

We coped because there were payphones reasonably easily available. Guess what, that is no longer the case.

GoodHeavens99 · 09/05/2024 13:25

TeleGardenGnome · 09/05/2024 07:25

My child's school which is a busy city location has a total phone ban. So you aren't allowed to take any type of phone to school at all even if it stays hidden in a bag and is on silent and never used. They do bag searches and use metal detectors to find students breaking the rules.

If your child's phone is found they get a detention and you can only get it back by visiting the school in person.

So yesterday my child's phone was found in a bag search and removed. There were awful transport issues and it took them several hours to get home. In the meanwhile we had no way to contact each other.

I can't get the phone back due to work and my husband being away for work. It just stresses me out that he won't be able to get in touch if there's a problem. Expressing my feelings here as there is no point complaining to the school. They don't listen to parental feedback.

I've put an Apple Tag in my son's bag.

It's really useful.

padsi1975 · 09/05/2024 13:24

My child's school has a ban. Totally ineffective, kids just sneak them in and check their phones a lot. They cause so much disruption. So now they take them off them in the morning and lock them away. But still kids are sneaking them in, pretending they left their phone at home. I hate phones in schools, the disruption alone is unacceptable. That's before getting into the bullying via whatsapp, the viewing of inappropriate content, the non stop distraction, the taking of images without the person's consent, etc etc etc. Only phones I would support in schools would be dumb phones. I simply can't believe that a smart phone does anything but put kids in more harms way (muggers in real.life, God knows what online). I'm sure Sarah Everard and other women who have been attacked had smart phones on them. They are not some sort of shield against predators. Only possible use is to phone if transport from school goes awry. Every other reason parents give just never stands up to scrutiny.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/05/2024 13:23

WhiteLily1 · 09/05/2024 08:31

But that’s how it is unfortunately. The bus driver will not care at all if there is an issue. I have first hand proof. My sons friend was being too loud on the bus a couple of years ago and to teach him a lesson the bus driver deliberately didn’t stop at his stop and drove straight on to the next village. This boy had ASD and complexity freaked out. The next village was far too far to walk home. Bus shut doors and drove off. Thank god this boy had his phone to call his mum to pick him up. Complaint was made but nothing much done.
I’m telling you, it’s a brutal world and people just don’t care. I wouldn’t absolutely hate to think of any of my children stranded and alone with no way of contacting home.

That was a monstrous bus driver, this little boy could have an old fashioned type small mobile for calling or texting his mum in the future.

Wanttobefree2 · 09/05/2024 13:23

It sounds unnecessary to be using a metal detector to search bags, do they also search the kids. Could he use a travel type bum bug that sits under his clothes (they thin and normally used for cash)

MsCheeryble · 09/05/2024 13:22

Anameisaname · 09/05/2024 13:19

I don't personally agree with the rules. But the rules are known and enforced. So I am not sure complaining that they were enforced is reasonable per se !

It's not a question of complaining to the school. It's an issue of a school having a silly rule that impacts on their pupils' lives and safety outside school, and whether that should even be permitted.

SabreIsMyFave · 09/05/2024 13:21

Good grief. How did children EVER cope without their own mobile phone?!!!

And how did the PARENTS cope without their children having their own mobile phone?

Utterly batshit! Get a grip @TeleGardenGnome

And as pps have said, surely there is a closer school than one that they have to get to via tube trains. Why does he not get a bus? How far away is this school (in miles?) If this happens a lot, why do you not look for a school closer to home?

MrTiddlesTheCat · 09/05/2024 13:21

YANBU. My autistic, just turned 11 DS has to take the bus to school on his own. I'm currently injured and would never have agreed to this otherwise. I'd be furious if his school took away my only means of checking he's safe.