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To be concerned with how my boyfriend acted when I was ill?

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Vlop · 09/05/2024 05:49

I'm 30 and he's 31. I've been with him for 18 months, during which I never got ill. He even commented on this saying it's really good.

We've travelled to another continent for his work last week. I tagged along as he wanted me to but got very sick with sore throat and running nose 2 days ago.

We wake up at 6.30 for work (he goes to the office and I work from the hotel room we're staying). Last night we went to bed at 10.30pm and I woke up literally feeling suffocated at 10.45pm. He hadn't fallen asleep yet. I asked him if he could get me flu relief hot drink. It's the only thing that actually works for me.

He went out and got back saying the store 2 minutes away didn't have any medication. I tried to sleep but was really struggling so asked him if there was any pharmacy nearby. He Googled and said that the nearest one was half an hour away and couldn't walk. He did have a car but didn't offer to drive. I explicitly told him that I was really struggling and really needed some medicine. He wasn't doing anything so I asked him to at least phone reception for medication. The phone didn't work so he had to go downstairs. At that stage he was getting really mean to me, making comments like 'I want this over with, let's get you a medicine and be done' etc. It wasn't even 11pm at this point. He came back with one random loose tablet which had no expiry date on and I didn't know who touched it. Tablets never help me anyway so I told him not to worry. Made myself some tea and dozed off.

In the morning I found out that his foot was hurting. He didn't tell me this last night so I didn't know and it explains some of the irritable behaviour. I also understand maybe I was being slightly difficult as I was really physically struggling (first time in our relationship, I'm not a princess). Today he texted me at work to see how I am only once and when he got back I told him I didn't feel like having dinner and he went out alone to eat. Don't think he even asked me if I wanted anything. I find that lack of empathy/compassion a red flag. AIBU?

OP posts:
Goldenbear · 12/05/2024 18:28

bluetopazlove · 12/05/2024 18:16

I don't think I've ever met a woman who isn't self sufficient , every one I've ever met carries (certainly at thirty) their own strip of paracetamol .
OP seems for a single woman in her thirties very dependant on other people .How can you get to thirty and be so dependant ? You spent two days at a hotel with an oncoming cold and not once did you think you need to be prepared and go out and get some paracetamol , to you know think I might need this .
No your answer seems to be I've got a boyfriend for that .

This sounds a bit like - all women are multi - tasters, all women are good at the stuff needed for celebrations so cards, presents, buffets, all women are organised. They are not and sometimes men aren’t all solution based, good at detail, shit at celebrations and good at multi tasking. We don’t all conform to gender stereotypes!

bluetopazlove · 12/05/2024 18:16

spriots · 12/05/2024 09:57

I think the expectations thing goes both ways.

It's not unreasonable to expect a partner to be self sufficient when they have a minor illness.

I would find it really unattractive if DH behaved like the OP with a cold and going on the dressing gown of doom posts on other threads, a lot of people feel the same way.

It doesn't mean we don't care about each other when we are seriously ill or have high standards.

I also feel like the best behaviour point goes both ways too. In the early stages of a relationship, I wouldn't expect anyone to be sending their boy/girl friend out on late night errands.

I don't think I've ever met a woman who isn't self sufficient , every one I've ever met carries (certainly at thirty) their own strip of paracetamol .
OP seems for a single woman in her thirties very dependant on other people .How can you get to thirty and be so dependant ? You spent two days at a hotel with an oncoming cold and not once did you think you need to be prepared and go out and get some paracetamol , to you know think I might need this .
No your answer seems to be I've got a boyfriend for that .

Mothership4two · 12/05/2024 12:22

I have a good man who loves his kids dearly and me. He wasn't born like that he's been crafted during our relationship to treat a woman with respect and to understand my expectations. At the start of the relationship, he obviously didn't know my expectations just as I didn't know his and we got to know each other and figured things out. Because we love each other, we want to make each other happy so we make compromises on decisions.

Yes, me too

Although OH wasn't crafted during our relationship to treat a woman with respect and to understand my expectations - he came like that fortunately. And I likewise treat him with respect and appreciation most of the time!(which OP didn't IMO)

GRex · 12/05/2024 10:53

mandlerparr · 11/05/2024 17:24

. I never said it was rude to put it in the bag. I said that it is the type of people who say shit like that is rude who never actually recognize actually rude things and only when it is done to them. But, let me make it easier for you to understand. The same people saying that putting the glass down instead of handing it to her is not rude are the same people that will lose their fucking minds if someone puts the glass down instead of handing it to them.

Oh dear. You'd better never go to a silver service restaurant, you'll be horrified when your drink is served from the right side by placing it on a coaster. The cutlery and napkin will be in place. Even your plate will be put on the table rather than thrust into your hands. It's truly feral!!

Where do you people get this batshit nonsense from anyway?

Mothership4two · 12/05/2024 10:11

Many posters have just answered the OP's question but some on both sides haven't been very nice about it at times. No-one should be trying to shame anyone on here IMO - including posters doing those that don't agree with them. Just because some of us feel the OP isn't being entirely fair to her BF doesn't mean we have awful relationships/low expectations/sh*t partners/are men/have low standards of men/get pressurised into performing sexual acts/etc which mostly hasn't even insinuated but has been given as a statement of fact

And you can't police what other posters say on here. OP didn't ask if she should work on her relationship she asked AIBU?

spriots · 12/05/2024 09:57

I think the expectations thing goes both ways.

It's not unreasonable to expect a partner to be self sufficient when they have a minor illness.

I would find it really unattractive if DH behaved like the OP with a cold and going on the dressing gown of doom posts on other threads, a lot of people feel the same way.

It doesn't mean we don't care about each other when we are seriously ill or have high standards.

I also feel like the best behaviour point goes both ways too. In the early stages of a relationship, I wouldn't expect anyone to be sending their boy/girl friend out on late night errands.

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 12/05/2024 09:23

MrRydersParlourGame · 12/05/2024 09:04

Honestly, at the nub of all this is that you can have whatever expectations you like of your partner and can walk away for any reason you like.

Just because some women would find the OP's boyfriend's level of effort good enough for them, doesn't mean you have to accept it.

The posters trying to shame the OP on here for finding him lacking aren't doing it for the OP's benefit (there's been no gentle, "come on now, don't lose a good relationship for something minor or you might regret it" - which is what you'd expect of posters were actually concerned for the OP herself) which means they are doing it for reasons of their own.

I would say the reasons for the attempted shaming is either they are people who don't themselves want to be held to higher standards of care and are concerned that this will become the norm and they'll look bad if other people's expectations aren't kept down, or they are people whose own partners would never treat them with those higher standards of care and they don't like being made to feel lesser-than because other people's partners would, and happily so. So they have to denigrate examples of it.

Ultimately, just do what's right for you and live as you're happy living. If you're genuinely happy not to give or receive this kind of care when you're ill, just crack on and stop calling the OP names for feeling differently.

I definitely agree with this. So many people have low standards of men. The amount of women I know who hate oral sex but do it because "he'll leave if I don't and ALL men expect that anyway" No! You should be able to explain to your partner that oral sex is not what you ever want to do and they should be OK with that, same as anal. Everyone talks about my husband with extreme high regard. Everyone jealous that I have a good man who loves his kids dearly and me. He wasn't born like that, he's been crafted during our relationship to treat a woman with respect and to understand my expectations. At the start of the relationship, he obviously didn't know my expectations just as I didn't know his and we got to know each other and figured things out. Because we love each other, we want to make each other happy so we make compromises on decisions.

MrRydersParlourGame · 12/05/2024 09:04

Honestly, at the nub of all this is that you can have whatever expectations you like of your partner and can walk away for any reason you like.

Just because some women would find the OP's boyfriend's level of effort good enough for them, doesn't mean you have to accept it.

The posters trying to shame the OP on here for finding him lacking aren't doing it for the OP's benefit (there's been no gentle, "come on now, don't lose a good relationship for something minor or you might regret it" - which is what you'd expect of posters were actually concerned for the OP herself) which means they are doing it for reasons of their own.

I would say the reasons for the attempted shaming is either they are people who don't themselves want to be held to higher standards of care and are concerned that this will become the norm and they'll look bad if other people's expectations aren't kept down, or they are people whose own partners would never treat them with those higher standards of care and they don't like being made to feel lesser-than because other people's partners would, and happily so. So they have to denigrate examples of it.

Ultimately, just do what's right for you and live as you're happy living. If you're genuinely happy not to give or receive this kind of care when you're ill, just crack on and stop calling the OP names for feeling differently.

MrRydersParlourGame · 12/05/2024 08:53

Nuttyputty · 12/05/2024 01:23

What you do and don't do isn't relevant to what op did, she hasn't mentioned a fever you are purely speculating to fit your narrative. FYI paracetamol brings a fever down, which she claims doesn't work for her, other than a lemsip, which ironically contains paracetamol

Incorrect. From the OP's second post:

"I was definitely delusional as I had high fever"

Nuttyputty · 12/05/2024 01:23

mandlerparr · 11/05/2024 15:46

I have also fallen asleep while sick with a 39 fever. Fever's sort of do that, you know?

What you do and don't do isn't relevant to what op did, she hasn't mentioned a fever you are purely speculating to fit your narrative. FYI paracetamol brings a fever down, which she claims doesn't work for her, other than a lemsip, which ironically contains paracetamol

Mothership4two · 12/05/2024 01:21

Agree @BadLad it's a bizarre statement to make

BadLad · 12/05/2024 01:06

The same people saying that putting the glass down instead of handing it to her is not rude are the same people that will lose their fucking minds if someone puts the glass down instead of handing it to them.

This is one of the strangest things I’ve read on here for a long time.

Silverfoxette · 12/05/2024 00:24

In future, always be prepared with provisions for this type of scenario happening.

I think he could have been more empathetic too and I get why you were upset. I remember going for 3 days to NY and got a raging temperature and sore throat the first day I got there. I think he could have shown more compassion. I would have a conversation with him about it, get it out in open, maybe the sore foot was worse than he was letting on

Mothership4two · 11/05/2024 23:08

I never said it was rude to put it in the bag

And...

They only understand rudeness when it is done to them (about putting receipt in bag)

So that's exactly what you said @mandlerparr

I don't need you to make it easier for me to understand, just write clearly and don't contradict yourself.

The same people saying that putting the glass down instead of handing it to her is not rude are the same people that will lose their fucking minds if someone puts the glass down instead of handing it to them.

And that's a lazy assumption and just not true.

HTH

Rhaenys · 11/05/2024 21:20

OP on Mumsnet people don’t believe in being nice to people when they’re ill.

tuvamoodyson · 11/05/2024 20:27

Josette77 · 11/05/2024 19:52

How is that rude though? I don't think I've ever been handed a drink at a bar or restaurant. It's usually placed in front of me by a waiter or if someone bought it for me.

I honestly don't know why that is rude?

Nor do I understand the receipt issue? People think a receipt in the bag is rude?

Edited

MN has very strange views around etiquette!

Josette77 · 11/05/2024 19:59

mandlerparr · 11/05/2024 16:10

My only take away from many of the comments on here is that you either treat your partners like shit or don't expect much for yourself from your partners. Going to a few places to get the steamy drink your partner, who is rarely sick, wants is not very much to ask. You can't, once every 18 months, get up at 11pm and go to 2-3 stores to find that one thing that will make them feel better? Really? You don't think your partner should care enough about you to do it? Really?
You all are acting like she was asking him to go out at 3am in a war torn country with missiles flying overhead. It is just them, no other responsibilities, no kids to worry about, not even a pet in an english speaking country. She asked for a certain thing. He brought her everything but and made up excuses later to cover it up. Is this what you all do to your partners? Is this the level of care you expect from your partners?
Shit, strangers have shown more care for others than this.

At 11 pm at night for a cold when they have already been handed meds? No. I'm not doing it.

You can call me a shit partner but I'm in bed at 11. I'm not running around to 2 or 3 stores for cold meds close to midnight. I'm just not doing it.

I wouldn't ever ask anyone to do this for me either. It's late. I'd drink tea and rest. Rest is the best defense any ways.

Josette77 · 11/05/2024 19:55

mandlerparr · 11/05/2024 17:24

. I never said it was rude to put it in the bag. I said that it is the type of people who say shit like that is rude who never actually recognize actually rude things and only when it is done to them. But, let me make it easier for you to understand. The same people saying that putting the glass down instead of handing it to her is not rude are the same people that will lose their fucking minds if someone puts the glass down instead of handing it to them.

Do you think it's rude to put a glass down instead of handing it to the person? Is this a thing? I've never heard of this being rude before.

Josette77 · 11/05/2024 19:52

mandlerparr · 11/05/2024 15:44

All the people on here saying that putting a glass on a table instead of handing it straight to the person isn't rude are the same people that lose their minds when the cashier puts the receipt in the bag instead of handing it to them. They only understand rudeness when it is done to them.

How is that rude though? I don't think I've ever been handed a drink at a bar or restaurant. It's usually placed in front of me by a waiter or if someone bought it for me.

I honestly don't know why that is rude?

Nor do I understand the receipt issue? People think a receipt in the bag is rude?

Goldenbear · 11/05/2024 19:38

I think some posters on here are missing the point as they are men!

AllCatsAreAutistic · 11/05/2024 19:32

I think you were making a lot of fuss about a minor indisposition.

Italianita · 11/05/2024 19:18

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StringTheory1 · 11/05/2024 18:58

mandlerparr · 11/05/2024 16:10

My only take away from many of the comments on here is that you either treat your partners like shit or don't expect much for yourself from your partners. Going to a few places to get the steamy drink your partner, who is rarely sick, wants is not very much to ask. You can't, once every 18 months, get up at 11pm and go to 2-3 stores to find that one thing that will make them feel better? Really? You don't think your partner should care enough about you to do it? Really?
You all are acting like she was asking him to go out at 3am in a war torn country with missiles flying overhead. It is just them, no other responsibilities, no kids to worry about, not even a pet in an english speaking country. She asked for a certain thing. He brought her everything but and made up excuses later to cover it up. Is this what you all do to your partners? Is this the level of care you expect from your partners?
Shit, strangers have shown more care for others than this.

Bless

StringTheory1 · 11/05/2024 18:57

gingersnapdrop · 10/05/2024 23:27

This will only get worse, and as you have children and grow older, you will have ER visits, hospitalizations, diseases, and injuries in the family, and need his support. This is just life. These people don’t change. Get out while you can. Find someone who loves you.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! 🤣

Ilovecleaning · 11/05/2024 18:50

tuvamoodyson · 11/05/2024 18:42

…from a Tommee Tippee

🤣. Love it