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To expect fat nurses to have some insight?.

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Vikingess · 07/05/2024 21:26

Just had a routine health check today at my GP surgery. Two nurses - both considerably overweight - dispensing advice on diet. I
am not overweight -AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short.

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CulturalNomad · 07/05/2024 21:45

Sometimes I feel like I'm surrounded by doctors! Family members, neighbors...

Guess what? Some are overweight, a few smoke, quite a few drink more than the recommended amount and a couple use recreational drugs on occasion.

Should they not give you good health advice because they don't always "lead by example"?

fashionqueen0123 · 07/05/2024 21:45

AloeVerity · 07/05/2024 21:38

It sounds like you’re expecting them to lead by example. It makes sense, really, at least from a logical point of view, like with the dentist example above. You wouldn’t go to a hairdresser who had bad hair, would you?

It reminds me of my PE teachers at high school. One was hugely overweight and the other smoked like a chimney. Uninspiring and clearly didn’t practice what they preached. The question is, should they have (had) to? Was their job to teach or inspire? It’s an interesting one, OP. Arguably if the nurses are doing their job, it’s up to them what they do in their spare time and whether they follow their own advice.

I remember we had a pe teacher would due to school rules, would make every one take off their jewellery before - but she had loads on! But then so do many athletes I guess.

uhOhOP · 07/05/2024 21:45

Vikingess · 07/05/2024 21:41

You are right. Sorry. They are qualified to give the right advice even though they obviously weren’t able to follow it themselves. I think I just found it quite patronising and hypocritical it the way the advice was delivered.

So how was it delivered?

WhenYouHearTheRain · 07/05/2024 21:44

A healthy lifestyle is something you can have knowledge about even if you don’t put it into practice.

Even if a nurse is a healthy weight, they may not be living a healthy lifestyle.

Take their advice on board or don't, they won’t really care. They’ve done their job by informing you so they’ll get paid.

crumbpet · 07/05/2024 21:44

They just have to dispense the theory not follow it. Same as you can ignore it too.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/05/2024 21:44

YABU. Would you rather they gave you incorrect advice? Or perhaps you'd rather that only abstemious people with exemplary diets and exercise regimes should allowed to be health care professionals? Good luck getting gp appointments and getting to the top of a waiting list for an operation if that were the case.

Are you also one of those people who thinks that all teachers must be outstanding, and that if they express any dissatisfaction with the job, or comment on the poor behaviour of their students, they should quit (even though schools already can't get enough teachers)?

Fanchester · 07/05/2024 21:43

Yabu. Giving you the advice is their job. Whether they themselves follow it is irrelevant, and of course you’re also free not to follow it if you choose.

Good example of someone being unable to distinguish between health advice and moral or aesthetic judgement.

uhOhOP · 07/05/2024 21:43

Vikingess · 07/05/2024 21:26

Just had a routine health check today at my GP surgery. Two nurses - both considerably overweight - dispensing advice on diet. I
am not overweight -AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short.

So much wrong with this, OP...

Delatron · 07/05/2024 21:41

Are we missing the part where the OP herself is not overweight so why on earth does she need dietary advice?

Jellycatspyjamas · 07/05/2024 21:41

You wouldn’t go to a hairdresser who had bad hair, would you?

I’ve seen a fair few hairdressers with their hair scraped back looking far from best - I just assume lack of time rather than lack of knowledge or ability.

Vikingess · 07/05/2024 21:41

You are right. Sorry. They are qualified to give the right advice even though they obviously weren’t able to follow it themselves. I think I just found it quite patronising and hypocritical it the way the advice was delivered.

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LookAtMyTinyGameBoy · 07/05/2024 21:41

Seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face TBH. Take the health advice, don't take the health advice; you're the one who'll face the consequences if you reject healthcare information, whether you think the nurse is a hypocrite or not.

Delatron · 07/05/2024 21:39

I bet the advice wasn’t even good. YANBU. I’d have just rolled my eyes and ignored.

Jellycatspyjamas · 07/05/2024 21:39

-AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short.

How do you know they’re falling short? They may have a hormonal or metabolic condition, may be 6 months post partum, they may have lost a lot of weight to get to where they are now. Do all professionals need to give a disclaimer before dispensing professional advice, or just the fat ones?

JustTalkToThem · 07/05/2024 21:39

Oh look another one of these threads...

AloeVerity · 07/05/2024 21:38

It sounds like you’re expecting them to lead by example. It makes sense, really, at least from a logical point of view, like with the dentist example above. You wouldn’t go to a hairdresser who had bad hair, would you?

It reminds me of my PE teachers at high school. One was hugely overweight and the other smoked like a chimney. Uninspiring and clearly didn’t practice what they preached. The question is, should they have (had) to? Was their job to teach or inspire? It’s an interesting one, OP. Arguably if the nurses are doing their job, it’s up to them what they do in their spare time and whether they follow their own advice.

Irridescantshimmmer · 07/05/2024 21:37

omg that's text book irony

SpeedbirdSquawker · 07/05/2024 21:37

FuckTheClubUp · 07/05/2024 21:30

AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short

What do you want them to say? ‘Yes I know that I’m a fatty boom boom but I must tell you xyz because it’s my job.’ Your question doesn’t make any sense

A fatty boom boom ha ha ha 😂

OhshutupBrenda · 07/05/2024 21:36

JiraffDeSaki · 07/05/2024 21:33

Their job is to dispense medical advice as required, that's what they are trained for. Just because they don't follow the advice themselves doesn't make them any less qualified or make the facts less so.

This! YABU.

nadine90 · 07/05/2024 21:36

Are you one of those people who undermine teachers who don’t have kids?
They are doing their job. Being slim wouldn’t make them understand and be able to share the info any better

Fizzib · 07/05/2024 21:35

ChefsKisser · 07/05/2024 21:30

I think it’s unrealistic to expect everyone in healthcare to live 100% perfect lives or have to explain themselves to patients when giving health advice. I provide contraception for a living and my first child was an ‘accident’ (best accident I’ve ever had!) and I would never tell patients this.

This is a brilliant example and one I was thinking of actually .

You really don’t know anyone’s circumstances and how well they’ve stick to their own professional advice in their personal life. Best to just focus on their professional advice and take it as that rather than judging how they live.

And even a fat nurse may have lost a significant amount of weight in the past through diet.

CulturalNomad · 07/05/2024 21:34

A doctor that smokes is still going to to tell you that you shouldn't because it's bad for your health. Being overweight doesn't mean you don't know the basics of healthy eating.

JiraffDeSaki · 07/05/2024 21:33

Their job is to dispense medical advice as required, that's what they are trained for. Just because they don't follow the advice themselves doesn't make them any less qualified or make the facts less so.

Wish44 · 07/05/2024 21:32

While I do know what you mean these nurses probably have to have life style conversations with patients as part of their job and as such probably have the same conversation thousands of times… it isn’t reasonable that they, on repeat , have to discuss something private about themselves at patients appointments. Just because you can see their weight doesn’t mean you know anything about them or their health and nor are you entitled to.

I work in health care and give out loads of advice that I don’t necessarily stick too…because I have to give the advice as part of my job. That doesn’t mean I have to stick to it. So YABU

FuckTheClubUp · 07/05/2024 21:30

AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short

What do you want them to say? ‘Yes I know that I’m a fatty boom boom but I must tell you xyz because it’s my job.’ Your question doesn’t make any sense

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