To expect fat nurses to have some insight?.

What are the other options?

The already direly understaffed NHS should fire all staff who are overweight?

The overweight nurses should not dispense health information to patients?

The nurses should bow and scrape in every appointment and apologize for being fat before they give advice?

What are you looking for here?

Again, like I have posted many times on here, an addiction is an addiction. Food addiction is real. BED is real. What’s not real is blaming every other issue from no breaks to the government to no time to free chocolates to explain away why you are fat. No. You are fat because you eat too much of the wrong food. Same as an alcoholic drinks too much alcohol. Also, again, like I have said, denial is a huge part of addiction and hugely prevalent on this page hence my excuses comments because at the end of the day that’s all they are.. excuses as to why you are fat rather than acceptance that you eat too much of the wrong food and in many, many case have a food addiction.

If they, as healthcare professionals, considered it to be clinically appropriate to give advice on healthy eating, then they would be (to use OP's words) 'falling short' if they did not give that advice. That does not necessitate a thread of anti-nurse fat bashing, which is what this has turned into.

You may be surprised at how many staff in MH have their own ‘baggage’. They often choose the speciality because they can relate to it or because they want to improve things.

Qualified therapists usually have to have a prolonged period of therapy themselves as they train so they can understand their own emotions and reactions before seeing patients. Your chance of having a completely ‘mentally healthy’ therapist is not guaranteed i reckon. But they can still provide good care.

That is not the same as judging and commenting about the physical appearance of others who are simply going about their work.

No-one has actually done that though. We’re talking about the circumstance, as per the OP, of health professionals giving out advice they clearly don’t follow themselves, to a patient who is not overweight. That is problematic. As their weight is not a health issue, it doesn’t need to be addressed in a medical context.

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Why are you so aggressive? Unhealthy habits often have complex roots. Being so shouty about it is hardly helpful to anyone...If you really really want to understand, I suggest the following:

Buy yourself a bloody bunch of books on psychology and read one chapter every day. It's not rocket science, its an excuse to be so ignorant and a very poor one at that.

The clinicians in the OP's post met her at a voluntary appointment (she chose to attend, on the understanding that it was a health check). They carried out physical health assessments within their professional remit and provided information and recommendations based upon the results. The feedback received may have been difficult to hear, but it was not an unsolicited passing comment on someone.

That is not the same as judging and commenting about the physical appearance of others who are simply going about their work.

If I go to a physical health appointment, I expect that there will be an assessment of my physical health, including consideration of weight and associated factors (and no, before anyone starts trying to judge me or make me feel insecure about my own body, I'm not massively huge and I'm fine the way I am, thank you). That's an assessment in a professional capacity. If someone made unsolicited judgemental comments about my physical appearance in other settings, especially when I'm at work, that would be different. That would be rude and uncalled for.

Rather than passing comment on people's bodies, maybe be appreciative that they're there to save lives.

Isn’t the point rather that medics are passing comment on their patient’s bodies? Hence the thread title.

A friend of mine (ironically herself a doctor) was labelled “overweight” by a doctor recently despite not having smidge of fat on her - just a super athletic and muscular frame. She could have made your comment but I doubt he would have been any less dismissive.

Rather than passing comment on people's bodies, maybe be appreciative that they're there to save lives.

People working in healthcare make huge commitments and sacrifice a lot, to provide life-saving and life-changing care and treatment to people in need. They (we) do not want, need or deserve to be judged on physical appearances.

And no, I still don't get breaks.

Well that wasn't me I'm actually a GP not a nurse. But the words you use and the manner you speak about nurses stuffing their faces is really derogatory and unpleasant.

Overweight dieticians and fitness trainers dispensing nutritional/fitness/dietary advice they’re clearly not adhering to, or unable to adhere to themselves, for whatever reason — definite no, no.
Overweight nurses and doctors dispensing such advice — not ideal, but acceptable, because it’s only a small part of what they do, and it’s routine advice that they are required to give out as part of their job.

I'm sure the two 'fat nurses' do have some 'insight'.

You surely know that they have to go through the 'tick box' procedure: height, weight, BP, urine test, etc. During health checks they are required to give you the guidance on diet and weight - that doesn't mean they are oblivious to their own weight; just as doctors/nurses who drink a lot of wine have to advise you that you should stick to the guidelines of 14 units per week.

I would rather see a good fat nurse than a slim rubbish nurse.

Tbh I don't care how large the nurse is its none of my business as long as she's a good nurse. She's employed to do a job not to follow the guidelines for herself. WTAF OP how entitled!!

You didn’t see her deleted post and is now calling people “vile”.

Im not actually fat, I don’t know why you think I am.
But my diet when I work is horrific. It’s very unhealthy. I can see why nurses struggle to be healthy.

If I went for a routine, run of the mill checkup and was not overweight, I certainly would raise an eyebrow at 2 obviously obese people giving me unwarranted advice on my own weight.

I don't care about the size of my GP or nurses. Am happy to accept advice even though my GP is rather larger than me. I would expect a slim and fit personal trainer, though. I think I might also expect a mentally healthy therapist.

No, reasons are not excuses but excuses is all I am hearing. A reason is why you cannot do something and an excuse is something you use to justify doing something that you absolutely don’t have to.
You don’t have to eat the constant and seemingly never ending supply of free chocolate. By your reckoning you are fat because people bring chocolate and you cannot go get something healthy from your locker so you have to eat it. That is not a reason, it’s an excuse.
Cadbury’s must be making a killing with the amount of chocolates that people buy every day to give to nurses.

It’s the choice they make. There is zero need for a patient to pass judgement on the size of their HCPs body. How on earth does it affect you on an individual level?!

I don’t think she’s stropping or coming across badly. She is perfectly entitled to be in her own workplace without having people pass judgement on her body size!

No-one is shouting. If you think you’re coming across well as a GP stropping and name-calling people, you are quite wrong.

God there are some vile people on this thread. We all know its a CHOICE (stop shouting at us). Reasons are not excuses. We know its us. Really what are you hoping to achieve by talking down to us and patronising and infantalising I have no idea.
But you aren't coming across well. At all.

The PP was talking about a fruit bowl on the nurses station. Obviously nurses can’t keep personal belongings behind the nurses station, that what your locker is for. So your individual banana just for you along with your healthy meal is probably on a different floor and you would have to leave the ward short staffed and go 15 mins to get it.
I don’t think you understand.
At one point we weren’t allowed individual water bottles behind the desk.

the idea of a fruit bowl for staff is truly lovely though, but expensive.

I was pleasantly surprised that the 1 Banana I bought in Tesco last week (because I needed some change) was 15p

I didn’t think you could buy anything to snack on for 15p anymore!

Also a family member is a HCP (junior doctor). They each pay in a monthly amount to stock the staff room with snacks for breaks, it is always crisps, chocolate and coke. When it was her turn to buy in the stuff, she considered getting something healthier but thought she wouldn’t be very popular!

She eats healthily and prepares all her meals for the week on her days off and freezes or refrigerates them. She gets very tired but always sets time aside each week to do this as it’s important to her. It can be done.

Exactly. It’s the choice you make.