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To expect fat nurses to have some insight?.

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Vikingess · 07/05/2024 21:26

Just had a routine health check today at my GP surgery. Two nurses - both considerably overweight - dispensing advice on diet. I
am not overweight -AIBU to expect health professionals to demonstrate the the standards they recommended or at least admit to falling short.

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BurnoutGP · 08/05/2024 09:23

I feel really sad that my hard work for almost 30 years to help my patients would be deemed unworthy/unreliable/untrustworthy and considered a hypocrite/fat/lazy/stupid because of my weight which torments me enough every day.
How has society sunk so far.

FuckTheClubUp · 08/05/2024 09:22

TruthThatsHardAsSteel · 08/05/2024 03:39

Top marks for making me laugh with Fatty boom boom. I call our elderly cat this on a daily basis (thyroid problem which is managed by medication ). It was just somewhat unexpected 😁

I must admit, I do love that phrase! The thought of you calling your cat a fatty boom boom has really made me smile😆

BurnoutGP · 08/05/2024 09:21

Devilshands · 08/05/2024 08:58

If not wanting to take health advice from a hypocrite makes people a judgmental twat then that’s their choice tbh

A hypocrite?? Wow you're just a charmer. Maybe you should seek private healthcare where you can pick and choose your no doubt perfect in all ways HCP. Because the NHS is surely not for you.

FuckTheClubUp · 08/05/2024 09:20

changingchaali · 08/05/2024 00:26

@FuckTheClubUp - different subject but my Nan used to affectionately call me fatty boom boom when I was little. Thanks for this memory 😊

Aww that’s lovely! I’m glad that my comment brought this memory to mind x

Hollysberries · 08/05/2024 09:19

NewOrder · 08/05/2024 09:17

Ok so we need to add more to the list of things fat people can’t do

we can’t be confident
we can’t wear nice clothes
we can’t exercise
we can’t work in healthcare

Comments like this just don't help.

Is that your own view or something you've made up for the sake of being contentious?

Being fat is unhealthy and it's time it was called out far more than it is. Doctors are told not to upset patients by drawing attention to their weight.
Right, just let them carry on until they turn up diabetic, with heart disease or worse.

HollyKnight · 08/05/2024 09:18

All the comparisons to hairdressers, therapists, dentists, whatever, aren't relevant. These doctors and nurses aren't trying to sell you something. They aren't advertising something. They aren't trying to gain your custom. And they aren't telling you what to do. They are just giving you the information you need if you want good health. It is your choice whether you use that information or not. Just as it is theirs.

NewOrder · 08/05/2024 09:17

Ok so we need to add more to the list of things fat people can’t do

we can’t be confident
we can’t wear nice clothes
we can’t exercise
we can’t work in healthcare

Hollysberries · 08/05/2024 09:17

NortieTortie · 08/05/2024 09:15

God forbid nurses be human with their own struggles. You might need to sit down for this one, but some drink to excess and smoke, too.

Misses the point.

Hollysberries · 08/05/2024 09:16

Sweden99 · 08/05/2024 09:14

If a doctor smokes, she is still giving you good advice if she advises you to quit.

That is true.
But unlike being overweight, you could argue they are not likely to be doing it in front of you (and yes, okay you might smell the smoke.)

But if HCP had some self-awareness they might say 'Do as I say not as I do!' and at least acknowledge they're failing to practise what they preach.

It must be very hard to keep dishing out advice when you're clearly not taking it yourself.

NortieTortie · 08/05/2024 09:15

God forbid nurses be human with their own struggles. You might need to sit down for this one, but some drink to excess and smoke, too.

Sweden99 · 08/05/2024 09:14

If a doctor smokes, she is still giving you good advice if she advises you to quit.

eggplant16 · 08/05/2024 09:14

A size 16? Hide immediately

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 08/05/2024 09:11

In theory their weight should have nothing to do with you. But I do agree with you.

For what it’s worth an ex friend/acquaintance I know of is a practice nurse in a GP surgery. Its interesting as a complete turnaround from her other job as a hairdresser.

I never spoke to here about her nurse job but she’s at least a size 16 and it shocked me last time I saw her because I hadn’t realised she’d got so big.

ShamedBySiri · 08/05/2024 09:10

Yes, and the best teacher I and my dc ever had were confirmed childless bachelors and spinsters.

Depends what subject they're teaching.
My midwifery tutor was the original spinster, a vicar's daughter. Attending antenatal classes (as a student learner) that she was taking was excruciating when she started trying to warn the men that sex would change and they had to take care of their partners and ermmm, try "other positions".
Didn't help that she blushed to the roots while doing it. I think everyone there ended up blushing!
😅😂

PosyPrettyToes · 08/05/2024 09:10

I mean, if we go by your logic, no catholics could get married in church because priests aren’t married.

Male obstetricians or infertile midwives shouldn’t deliver babies.

Just because you don’t do something in your personal life doesn’t mean you can’t advise on it in a professional capacity.

BeretRaspberry · 08/05/2024 09:07

Hollysberries · 08/05/2024 09:05

But someone who gives out 'advice' but clearly doesn't follow it themselves is on a sticky wicket, surely.

The people who need a wake up call are usually not getting it for fear of 'fat shaming'.

People who are clearly slim don't need advice as they're managing okay anyway.

People who are clearly slim don't need advice as they're managing okay anyway.

But, as displayed on this thread already, being thin doesn’t mean you’re following a healthy lifestyle.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 08/05/2024 09:06

Wow another goady post about fatties in a situation that most likely didn't happen! It's an interesting topic for discussion though.

Skinnyfat is very much a thing. The older I get and the more I learn about nutrition the more I realise how unhealthily the vast majority of people eat, even those who seem healthy or eat relatively well. It's fascinating.

Hollysberries · 08/05/2024 09:05

TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 08/05/2024 09:02

I think people feel the need to justify themselves as they’ve been very unfairly attacked simply for being a certain size and turning up to their place of work. It makes no difference to me what size the HCP may be. I want good care and good advice.

But someone who gives out 'advice' but clearly doesn't follow it themselves is on a sticky wicket, surely.

The people who need a wake up call are usually not getting it for fear of 'fat shaming'.

People who are clearly slim don't need advice as they're managing okay anyway.

valensiwalensi · 08/05/2024 09:03

The fat phobia on this thread is…. Phew

TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 08/05/2024 09:02

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 08:08

I’m not sure whether I’m surprised or unsurprised at the number of posters justifying overeating as a mechanism for coping with stress. It doesn’t work! It just makes things worse.

I think people feel the need to justify themselves as they’ve been very unfairly attacked simply for being a certain size and turning up to their place of work. It makes no difference to me what size the HCP may be. I want good care and good advice.

Hollysberries · 08/05/2024 09:01

Given almost 70% of the population is overweight or obese, it's stands to reason that some nurses will be (and more overweight than thin ones.)

Interestingly there was a drive a year or so back to try to encourage medical staff to set a good example , because telling a patient to lose weight when you're overweight or obese isn't a great example, is it?

Just like if you went to see a doctor and he was at his desk smoking a fag or drinking vodka at 10am. (and telling you not to do the same.)

I don't buy into the excuses of shift work means we rely on biscuits.
Many nurses are not in busy NHS wards. They are in GP practices or small health centres. They work for a few hours a day, during normal working hours.

It's not hard to put an apple, a piece of fruit or a bag of nuts in your bag/locker and eat that in a break rather than buying canteen rubbish or whatever lies around in the staff room.

Viviennemary · 08/05/2024 09:01

I agree it's cheeky.

Devilshands · 08/05/2024 08:58

BurnoutGP · 08/05/2024 08:36

Because they know they are being flattish judgemental and twats and are happy to agree anonymously but not actually comment on it because they know how vile it is

If not wanting to take health advice from a hypocrite makes people a judgmental twat then that’s their choice tbh

Anonymouseposter · 08/05/2024 08:57

At least admit falling short , so you’re expecting them to comment on their own health rather than act professionally and focus on yours? People give professional advice at work all the time about things they don’t do perfectly themselves.

Mirabai · 08/05/2024 08:56

Devonbabs · 08/05/2024 08:42

Actually this is woefully misinformed. Stress levels have historically been very cyclical. Get stressed then destressed, this is actually a very normal situation for humans. be hungry-stressed. Get food destress. Fear of being attacked, stress kicks in the fight/flight - get away then destress

in modern life people are constantly stressed, there is a constant assault on our senses and emotions. You can’t get away from stressors. Work emails pinging on phone, online bullying etc etc.

Theres a lot of work looking at the role of chewing in stimulating the vagus nerve. Which helps regulate stress.

The obesity crisis is extremely complex. The rather pathetic uneducated response of it being down to greed/laziness is alienating the people it needs to help. Obese people aren’t stupid. They know carrots are good, crisps are bad and exercise is good. The question is why isn’t this knowledge helping and in 99.99% of cases it isn’t simple greed/laziness. Whilst this greed/laziness /stupid narrative exists the real causes of this crisis will not be addressed

Absolute nonsense.

If you think contemporary life is more stressful then try working in a 19c mill or factory or down a mine or as a servant or on the land - with no welfare state to fall back on, no union, and the ever present threat of the workhouse or destitution. Life, historically has been unimaginably tough.

I didn’t mention “greed” or “laziness” in my post, so I’m not sure what the point of your last para is. Instead I referenced addiction, compulsion, and binge eating disorder patterns, which research shows, play their part in obesity; as does poor education on food.

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