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ShyPearlMoose · 07/05/2024 20:17

I have just moved to a new area and I am so annoyed by the church bells ringing. They ring from 7:30-9pm on Tuesday and Wednesday nights and they are SO LOUD. I'm trying to wind down by this time but cannot get any silence so they're really bothering me. I know it's people practicing but does their hobby really have to disturb the entire town's evening for 90 minutes twice a week?
I can only think how annoyed some parents might be when trying to get their children to sleep on school nights.
Anyone else annoyed by them?

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Sharptonguedwoman · 21/08/2024 18:08

FinnJuhl · 11/05/2024 11:45

You may well zone out the noise sometime soon, but I think practice twice a week IS unreasonable. There's a fashion for 'ringing centres' at the moment as a way of recruiting and retaining new ringers, which tends to mean more weekly practice nights. That's not fair on the affected neighbours, so you could request via the PCC or Churchwarden that one of the weekly practices be 'tied' ie silent.

🙄 it’s bell ringing practice for goodness sake. These are the people who move next to the village green and complain about the cricket. So bloody selfish.

zingally · 21/08/2024 10:07

This is the same as people who complain about school noise when they choose to live next door to a school!

YABU, the church was there first. And the types of churches that have these sorts of bells are hard to miss. It's not their fault you didn't do your due diligence.

Personally, I love listening to church bells, but I grew up just down the road from a busy village church, so perhaps I'm just used to it.

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/08/2024 08:07

ShyPearlMoose · 07/05/2024 20:17

I have just moved to a new area and I am so annoyed by the church bells ringing. They ring from 7:30-9pm on Tuesday and Wednesday nights and they are SO LOUD. I'm trying to wind down by this time but cannot get any silence so they're really bothering me. I know it's people practicing but does their hobby really have to disturb the entire town's evening for 90 minutes twice a week?
I can only think how annoyed some parents might be when trying to get their children to sleep on school nights.
Anyone else annoyed by them?

Oh good grief. So you did little research about your new house and are annoyed by a traditional village practice. YABU. Daft and selfish.

StripeyDeckchair · 19/08/2024 19:38

I'm a former bellringer.
Practice is usually 1.5hrs - 2hrs per week
Ring for services, weddings & special occasions.

At this time of year bellringing teams often visit other churches to try out different bells.

You are being so unreasonable it's laughable

FinnJuhl · 11/05/2024 11:45

You may well zone out the noise sometime soon, but I think practice twice a week IS unreasonable. There's a fashion for 'ringing centres' at the moment as a way of recruiting and retaining new ringers, which tends to mean more weekly practice nights. That's not fair on the affected neighbours, so you could request via the PCC or Churchwarden that one of the weekly practices be 'tied' ie silent.

daisychain01 · 11/05/2024 10:31

ShyPearlMoose · 07/05/2024 20:36

I get bell ringing sure, it's a church. I moved from a town with a church but they never rang for this long. 90 minutes in the evening twice a week feels excessive.

I suppose if you're very close to the church, a twice weekly 90 min session will be intrusive.

our church does a Wednesday practice session for about an hour 6-7pm which I understand is not only for the campanologists to keep up their skills but also to ensure the bells are kept in good order as part of an ongoing maintenance regime. They don't need to be rung that frequently, once a month is reasonable. We are on edge of village so it isn't intrusive and we enjoy sitting outside for dinner in the summer with the bells in the background.

could you contact the Parish Council and see what the regs are regarding permissible noise levels - it may be possible to negotiate a reduction in the 90 mins and the start and end times. If you're only on a Short term let, it may not be worth doing.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 11/05/2024 10:17

ShyPearlMoose · 07/05/2024 20:17

I have just moved to a new area and I am so annoyed by the church bells ringing. They ring from 7:30-9pm on Tuesday and Wednesday nights and they are SO LOUD. I'm trying to wind down by this time but cannot get any silence so they're really bothering me. I know it's people practicing but does their hobby really have to disturb the entire town's evening for 90 minutes twice a week?
I can only think how annoyed some parents might be when trying to get their children to sleep on school nights.
Anyone else annoyed by them?

YABU, not because I enjoy church bells either, but perhaps you might have thought about it when you moved there - not sure they will stop just to suit you!

MsCheeryble · 11/05/2024 10:16

Pin0cchio · 10/05/2024 20:31

Oh and church bells have no link to the community any more! Church attendance is at an all time low.

Our local church (congregation: sub 20 geriatrics, they've had no children there in years) has a group of elderly ringers who like to go and ring the bells, no one else is paying attention

Try joining the ringers. You might find you enjoy it.

MsCheeryble · 11/05/2024 10:16

Pin0cchio · 10/05/2024 20:22

I love people saying "why did you move near a church"

Church buildings are extremely common in the uk. In most villages there will be be one slap bang in the middle & the noise carries. The bells were intended to be heard!

The question is - does it continue, in an increasingly secular society, to be reasonable for churches serving only a tiny number of attendees, to make excess noise that would not be tolerated/permitted by other organisations on such a regular basis?

Church buildings with a full ring of bells, however, are certainly not "extremely common". It really is pretty easy to avoid living near the sound of bells if you don't want to.

Nowadays bellringing is more of a hobby than a religious practice; I suspect a very large proportion of ringers, possibly the majority, never go to church for other purposes. You can certainly ask whether people should be allowed to practise a hobby that involves making a noise, but is it "excess noise"? It's usually for a pretty short space of time, and many people like it. Contrast that with, say, living near a big football ground, or by a busy road, or near an open concert venue. Surely we can all live and let live when a noise really doesn't impinge on people's lives that much?

MsCheeryble · 11/05/2024 10:04

Garlicked · 08/05/2024 19:37

No, it's not. I posted earlier about my local church's AUTOMATED chimes, which not only peal every quarter of an hour 24 hours a day but ring random tunes, thwarting your brain's efforts to predict and screen them out.

This thread's become a nice little club for posters claiming to live in Enid Blyton's fantasy world where church bells are only rung by teams of expert campanologists, only a couple of evenings a week, and are always high-quality instruments broadcasting twice-weekly concerts of charmingly traditional music through the sleepy village air.

At least with a mosque, the calls are only five times a day!

You need to talk to the vicar about whether they can get them turned off at night. There's usually a way to limit the mechanism between certain times.

MsCheeryble · 11/05/2024 10:02

SabreIsMyFave · 08/05/2024 10:04

Are you sure that's not just the clock chiming every hour? 😆 Seriously though, along with the 'bells go off at 7am EVERY DAY' poster, I just find this unbelievable. I am not calling any of you a liar. I wouldn't do that, but it's just that I have NEVER known any Church have its bells ringing - on the hour - EVERY hour. How long for? 5 minutes? 10? Half an hour? Or - as I said - are you sure it's not just the clock chiming!!!

To the OP @ShyPearlMoose wait til the Church gets a new Vicar or Reverend, or there's another Coronation, or the anniversary of D-Day, or VE Day, or some other kind of celebration or memorium. The bells on the Saturday or Sunday of that celebration weekend go on for 4-5 hours then ... Just constantly.

And whilst they do have bell ringers at our Church, they have a recording of the bells too, and they just switch it on and fuck off home, then return 5 hours later to switch it off! 😆

Looking forward to your thread of rage then! Also, you saw a Church near when you were going to live, and didn't realise there would be Church Bells ringing? Really? REALLY?!

I bet you would move next to a Dairy farm, and then claim you didn't realised cows mooed.

You won't get 4-5 hours of ringing for every celebration in every church. A full peal last around 3-3.5 hours, and relatively few ringers actually want or are able to ring those as they take an awful lot of stamina and concentration. I guess you might get different groups of ringers coming to a church to ring so it seems like a lot in one day, but that will be pretty rare and will obviously mean fewer people ringing elsewhere.

OldTinHat · 10/05/2024 21:20

I love, love hearing the bell ringing from the Minster not far from me.

Pin0cchio · 10/05/2024 20:31

Oh and church bells have no link to the community any more! Church attendance is at an all time low.

Our local church (congregation: sub 20 geriatrics, they've had no children there in years) has a group of elderly ringers who like to go and ring the bells, no one else is paying attention

Pin0cchio · 10/05/2024 20:22

I love people saying "why did you move near a church"

Church buildings are extremely common in the uk. In most villages there will be be one slap bang in the middle & the noise carries. The bells were intended to be heard!

The question is - does it continue, in an increasingly secular society, to be reasonable for churches serving only a tiny number of attendees, to make excess noise that would not be tolerated/permitted by other organisations on such a regular basis?

3luckystars · 10/05/2024 20:20

ShyPearlMoose · 07/05/2024 20:28

I'm renting. Was not aware there would be bells at this time

That’s easy solve so. All the best.

romany4 · 10/05/2024 20:18

I love church bells.
I moved from a small town with a bell ringing church to a village with no church bells.
I really miss hearing them

JudgeJ · 10/05/2024 20:09

LostMySocks · 07/05/2024 21:55

I lived by a church that had bell ringers and a chiming clock. Woke me all the time for the first couple of months then suddenly I stopped hearing it. My brain completely turned it out unless I actively listened.
Hang on there and you should soon get used to it.

That's something that happened to us once. We lived next door to a newspaper office and they printed there too, their windows were about a metre off our bedroom windows and it was a hot country so they were always open. The first few nights were terrible, friends likened the noise in daytime to standing on a tube station a the train came in. The only night they didn't print was Saturday and we quickly got used to the noise and slept through, however when it was a holiday on Monday so no printing on Sunday night the lack of noise woke us up. When our baby arrived she coped brilliantly too with the noise, thank goodness.

Elphame · 10/05/2024 10:41

Churchview · 09/05/2024 09:11

I know it's not for everyone, but I would be so sad if our church bells didn't ring every week. To me it's a sign of optimism and a vibrant community.

In a world where there are so many intrusive noises (you see it on MN all the time - next doors music, strimmer or hot tub, the traffic noise from the nearest motorway etc), the joyous sound that's been ringing out for a 1,000 years across our country seems something to embrace.

The good thing about churches is that whilst two or three times a week they make a noise they are silent neighbours most of the time. Between me and the church tower all my neighbours are sleeping peacefully underground.

The village is mostly Methodist. That church is I believe still fairly well attended. They have no bells of course.

The Cof E one is dead on its feet. It's down to about 10 elderly regulars and a "messy church" attempt to pull in the young families. It isn't working.

Sharptonguedwoman · 09/05/2024 10:28

Rubyrubyrubyrubee · 09/05/2024 10:21

This has made me crack up laughing. Thank you.

Welcome!

Rubyrubyrubyrubee · 09/05/2024 10:21

Sharptonguedwoman · 08/05/2024 23:38

You're a joy.

This has made me crack up laughing. Thank you.

Churchview · 09/05/2024 09:11

Elphame · 08/05/2024 23:16

I’m not a fan. The nearest church is over half a mile away but I can still hear the tuneless clanging.

Luckily it’s just once a month now as the services rotate between parishes.

I know it's not for everyone, but I would be so sad if our church bells didn't ring every week. To me it's a sign of optimism and a vibrant community.

In a world where there are so many intrusive noises (you see it on MN all the time - next doors music, strimmer or hot tub, the traffic noise from the nearest motorway etc), the joyous sound that's been ringing out for a 1,000 years across our country seems something to embrace.

The good thing about churches is that whilst two or three times a week they make a noise they are silent neighbours most of the time. Between me and the church tower all my neighbours are sleeping peacefully underground.

newnamethanks · 09/05/2024 00:30

I live 10 minutes walk away from the local cathedral. It has bells, frequently, and bell ringing practice. I've lived here for 15 years. The cathedrals been there for 1,000. Move somewhere else.

Sharptonguedwoman · 08/05/2024 23:38

Elphame · 08/05/2024 23:16

I’m not a fan. The nearest church is over half a mile away but I can still hear the tuneless clanging.

Luckily it’s just once a month now as the services rotate between parishes.

You're a joy.

Elphame · 08/05/2024 23:16

I’m not a fan. The nearest church is over half a mile away but I can still hear the tuneless clanging.

Luckily it’s just once a month now as the services rotate between parishes.

RogueFemale · 08/05/2024 22:50

90 minutes twice a week is hardly excessive. YABU.

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