To think most women on here hate men

@vivainsomnia Thank you. I agree. Apparently I must be a man (and a misogynistic one at that) because I don't hate all men. I also deserve be referred to as "it".
I find it hard to talk about my past (see above) but I felt it relevant here. I don't think I can add any more as, like you say, it's quite possibly futile.
But thank you 😊

@strangewomenlyinginponds Ah sprung! Yes, I'm a man. I HAVE to be because I don't hate all/most men and don't think that such a stance is justifiable(!)
A bit about me...
My first marriage was in fact to an abuser. I suffered for years of coercive control until I finally found the strength to leave. For years I blamed myself (and do now in my darkest days) for not just putting up with it for my kids.
I can be honest here and say that when it first happened I probably did "hate" all men; I was certainly frightened of them. I vowed never to let another man into my life. Would I, at that point, have openly admitted it like women are fearful to do on this thread? No.
But I sought counselling because I knew that wasn't a healthy place to be. It's not OK to hate all men because some men are vile.

What this thread has evidenced is that MN posters who don't like men have a bully approach to defending their views and that don't dislike men but also any women who don't agree that men as a sex should be hated.

Most posters who disagree will be clever enough not to engage because no matter what they say will be shut down by a few posters who get their power by the fuel of a few others who also hate men as a whole. The debate is totally futile and mist have better things to do in the real life where men are not hated by women.

Does it take bravery to come on to an anonymous forum and admit to hating the opposite sex? If it does there's a whole world of unsung heroes out there openly hating women. Which begs the question - you and other people preoccupied with misandry on MN- are you equally concerned with misogyny? Do you also go on to male dominated forums 'calling out' woman hating? Because if you do, I'd have thought you'd have so much more infinitely serious content to deal with there, you'd have no time to be challenging women on here.
And if you don't, why not? Because it's by far the more serious problem. I'd personally find it 'disappointing' if those so ardently telling women off for sexism aren't brave enough to do the same with men.

You should start your own thread. Oh wait - you took over this one no need 😂😅😆

Yes, I do completely agree that the original assertion has been proven repeatedly to be incorrect.

Glad we got that sorted. Ciao!

The general feeling is, as evidenced by the vote, that this is untrue.

@strangewomenlyinginponds I can concede, however, that some women on MN hate all men.

@Missamyp Totally! And what I find a little disappointing is that they are not brave enough to openly admit it.
It's blatantly obvious that some women on here hate all men, no exceptions.

This :)

@Missamyp if a woman hates a man it usually stems from a reactionary mentality due to the harm they have experienced that has been perpetrated by men, or out of a sense of fear of potential harm. Both instances are justifiable and actually sensible as women are having to constantly perform risk assessments in male company.

If a man hates a woman (as so so so many of them do) it seems to predominantly stem from either them not viewing women as humans worthy of respect, or being angry that women's expectations are now higher and they are struggling to match up. But at no point is it because women make them fearful of their lives.

Well its hardly breaking news that 'some women' 'don't like' men, is it? There is surely so little controversy around that it hardly warrants debate. However, the statement we were invited to consider is 'most women on MN hate men'. A statement I think even the most committed misandry hunters on here have been forced to concede lacks any substantiating evidence.

Yep. Women hate men's abusive behaviour. There are almost zero women here who openly hate men or even imply it.

But men's online comments are a regular horror show. Truly frightening.

I have to chuckle that some posters think that typing 'I hate men' a narrow search parameter is proving Mumsnetters don't hate men.
The general feeling is that some posters don't like men which is either implied or rather explicitly militant.

Dd goes to a girls school. The boys school group chats are brutal about the girls. She saw one and was horrified. Pulling apart their looks horrible nick names from sexual stuff etc really nasty. The girls aren’t perfect but their chats are nothing approaching those levels of vitriol about the boys.

Brilliant.

Look at any forum, online streaming chats, social media, and you will see how much men clearly hate us. They aren't even subtle about it these days at all

I have a tricky relationship with men (terrible childhood) which renders me wary of all of them to be honest. Women can be just as bad. But my mind quite frequently reminds me that a lot of men are dangerous and I think they’re getting worse not better.

Obviously there are some angels. I have a husband and 2 sons who are my world - but outside of that immediate unit I am quite untrusting of men. I don’t know what that makes me. But I wanted to be honest.

Tbf I've seen posters telling somebody to LTB over 'manflu'. 🤣 The OP thought he was being overdramatic and posters were saying he was emotionally controlling her. I remember thinking at the time it was a bit of a double standard as I'd seen other threads where the hubby was getting an absolute roasting for not being supportive enough when the OP had been ill.

But usually you can tell the loons from the more balanced posters, although for some reason there do seem to be a fair few of the former on here.

Exactly this! I think the vast majority of women are intelligent enough to understand whether they are reading about a run of the mill argument or an abusive situation!

Yes, that's an interesting point. I've often wondered about old school marriages of a few decades ago when people were married and having kids by 25. I'll bet a lot of women looked back and thought "why the hell did I marry him!"

I wonder what the origin of women (in general) prioritising financial stability more than men stems from. It could just be an extension of traditional roles or it could be related to many knowing they'll leave the workforce to have kids (and also a fair few that would prefer to be comfortable enough to never go back to full time work).

@WalrusOfLove oh I see what you mean, I can't vouch for the statistics but anecdotally I can see that being the case. A lot of my single friends are not prepared to enter into relationships unless their potential partner ticks a number of boxes and finances are definitely on there.

Perhaps the fact that as a society we are settling down later plays into it as well? If you're starting out together you can't exactly judge someone's earning potential but by the time you're in your late 20s+ you have a pretty good idea.

They never do stop causing trouble, even when most of their functions have quit! 😆

@Catsmere well I wish it would finally wander away and leave me alone 😂