To think most women on here hate men

100% of rapes are committed by men because the crime of rape requires a penis.
It is legally impossible for a woman to 'rape' somebody in the UK, even if she forces them to have sex while inebriated or impaired.

Gosh, "hate men", because women show solidarity with other females? And believe me, many, many more women would LTB for whatever reason if they had money and support to do so, just like many men do when they feel their family situation is too taxing.

So to be clear:

A poster calling you stupid and asking you if you are hard = verging on abusive and a bitch

A man shouting and screaming at his wife for hours, threatening to leave but not actually going and giving his wife the silent treatment = not abusive

So basically women being a bit mean are abusive but men actually shouting and screaming and using a tactic which is actually classed as abusive isnt abusive?

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I have a number of good men in my life and I certainly don’t hate all men but I have come to accept that a worrying number of ‘nice’ men aren’t actually very nice at all.

I’ve seen a ‘nice’ man criticise his wife for making him the same sandwich two days in a row. The same wife who also works ft. I’ve seen a number of ‘nice’ men over the years circling intoxicated women just waiting for an opportunity to take advantage. I’ve was publicly and openly groped and witnessed a number of ‘nice’ men physically turn away so they didn’t have to confront what they know happened, and then when a lone woman spoke up to support me they maintained that we must have misread the act that they all saw with their own eyes.

I often wonder why so many women are desperate to defend men who wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.

Yes, it's pattern recognition.

OP, have you also noticed just how many posts are "but he's a wonderful husband/father" while describing s man who is neither? Or the number of NAMALT comments?

When you look at the behaviour of men as a class, it's astonishing more women don't "hate" them. But that's socialisation for you.

Yea I hardly think women calling out bad behaviour is stooping to men's level.

Men threaten women with rape or murder frequently on social media yet you think women saying "you don't have to stay in your marriage if you aren't happy" is stooping to that level.

You can think that if you like. I can think you're chatting shit.

This.

If you have experienced abuse, you can often see patterns. It is also not uncommon for a thread to start out one way and then take a nose dive as the OP reveals more detail. It's not that I hate men, more that I am extremely wary of them and doubt their motivation.

Well it’s usually a male mindset that women weaponise sex as well so you’ve not helped your case.

I don't hate them but I do think women are better than men. I have a son who I love more than life itself, my dad was an amazing man, I have male colleagues/friends etc who I respect but women are better.

I liken it to what I've heard about policemen. Many (apparently) don't want kids because all the kids they encounter are yobs and thugs.

Same for MN. As others have said, women come here to moan, so it's easy to think that all men are like that, when in reality, we're only seeing the worst 1% (arbitrary %).

Conversely, you'll never see women admitting to what they've done. They'll say in an argument that he called her names and be told to ltb, but omit the part where she kicked his dog first, for example.

But you’re agreeing whilst telling us off for being mean about men, and suggesting that our behaviour (calling out shitty men) is on a par with men being abusive scumbags - do you not see how bonkers and wrong that is?

You're terrified of a woman-centred parenting/lifestyle website and find it a threat to men's societal equality, and you think you're well hard? Tanya?

Exactly.

It’s a terrible example.

Lol. It’s mumsnet, a discussion site.

You’ve started a post accusing mean women of hating men, of saying LTB based on nothing (except it’s not nothing, it’s behaviour many of us recognise of old), and we’re defending our opinions. As we are all allowed to do.

I’m quite enjoying this discussion, I’m appreciating posts from some great posters, so I’m sticking around. If my posts upset you, and that’s certainly not my intention, then sure, reply, but if you’re not enjoying them or getting anything out of them ignore them.

Sure it's already been said, but generally noone comes here to post about how lovely their quite normal, non-bastard partners are. When you see posts, it's because there's a problem - and generally this veers between thoughtlessness, selfishness and utter abuse by the men in question. First one can possibly be sorted, 2nd more tricky, and 3rd - well you should just leave. It's important as we model our relationships to our children and if they grow up in such an environment that is not challenged then the cycle continues. We need to call it out for what it is. It's not man-hating, it's behaviour hating. Women behaving in the same way would be equally berated, but it's far less common, or at least you won't see it here.

Isn't there just