To think most women on here hate men

Spending 30 hours doing housework without any kids at home? That's just taking the piss. Somehow those of us that work full time manage to do it in a few hours a week.

On balance, yes. It does seem like a pretty weak wind-up.

We all know this site is full of MRAs and the kind of 'pick-me' brand of women who seem determined to help put other women in their place and do the work of the patriarchy for them. Not least the more sinister ones, who never fail to appear on threads posted by desperate women who are victims of the most horrendous abuse to inform everyone helpfully that NAMALT, or Not My Nigel. They are the ones who really get my blood up, as is doubtless the intention of those posting their unimaginative, interminably-regurgitated shitola.

By comparison this kind of thread is a very tame effort: akin to the ones that appear on a weekly basis to say how awful this site is and how it's populated by mean vipers who are rude and selfish (the ultimate censorious accusations usually leveled at women).

Tedious.

Oh what a suprise the thread has now turned into a tirade of how women are driving men to suicide by working part time of all things

But where are the cries of "woman haters" OP? Or is it fine for people to spew bile about women?

Please stop burbling MRA nonsense at me, thanks.

And disagreeing with the 'feminist perspective' doesn't make you an MRA. It makes you part of the majority of women.

Translation: somebody disagrees with me and I don't have a response so I'm sticking my fingers in my ears. 🤣

It's not actually anti male though, just anti male abuse. Sadly, male abuse of women is widespread and normal, so that logically has to be taken into account when weighing matters up.

I'm not anti my husband, son or male friends at all.

I'm not a fan of men and in rl I don't know many woman who are.
I don't mind my husband but I was very glad to have daughters.

No, it's always been this bad. Citation - the whole of human history.

There is certainly a noticeable volume of anti-male sentiment. It doesn't bother me and I am a man. I assume the majority of those posters were not born hating males but have come to feel as they do due to their lived experiences. This is one of the few corners of the internet where women can find support so it is naturally going to feel welcoming to those who have been the victims of abuse, misogyny, male violence and sexism. Maybe if the world was a more equal place and less men treated women as badly as too many do there would be less anti-male sentiment on here.

Would you say that it would be 'weird' or 'sad' or 'strange' if most zebras hated lions? Or most rabbits hated dogs?

Statistically speaking, men present the biggest threat to my life. They are the most likely to harass, hurt, abuse, rape, torture or kill me. Not to mention that I live in a society where the laws and rules of order have been created by men to firstly and predominantly serve their best interests before my own.

The world I live in has been designed to cater to men. The medication I take is more likely to have been tested on men so it is unlikely to work optimally for my physiology; the safety of the car I drive has been tested on male bodies so I'm statistically more likely to die in a car crash than a man: the 'optimal' temperature setting for air conditioning units is set to cater to male physiology so I am likely to spend my entire working life being cold; the height of my kitchen cabinets are designed to cater to the average male height so I can't even use all of my kitchen in the way I need to. These are just a couple of disparate examples of how the world has been designed to cater to men, and women are expected to just deal with it.

So men are my primary predators, they have created a system that predominantly serves their needs, and have created a world that predominantly caters to their bodies and way of life. And you're surprised that I am not a fan?

If you're not angry then you're clearly not paying attention.

Incidentally, I am more than happy to support men in advocating for their mental health, in fundraising for refuges from domestic violence and in campaigning for more family friendly working practices. I'm just not prepared to take the lead. Go for it guys. I'm right behind you.

The older I get the more I feel like this about everyone, just add all forms of bias, privilege and dickish behaviour to misogyny! I don't think this approach as you get older only applies to men and misogyny. Everyone can behave badly.

Most women who work part-time are caring for others and managing households. They work at least 60 hour weeks, half of that unpaid.

@vivainsomnia "I could easily describe him here in away that everyone would shout that he is an abusive narcissist."

Could you? I honestly don t think I could describe the man I live with like that....

You're burbling convoluted irrelevant MRA nonsense. Please stop yacking at me, thanks.

It's been discussed on here before with loads of stats. People forget that sexual abuse is just one category. Neglect and other abuse is mainly female perpetrated.

He's a misogynist and men's rights activist. Reality is not important to him.

Yes men should definitely make better choices for themselves. Anyway, please stop taking at me now, thanks.

@MarioIa "
The most common perpetrator of child abuse is the mother - it's not even close. And boys are overwhelmingly the victims"

Citation needed.

And where did you get that information from MarioIa ?

The most common perpetrator of child abuse is the mother - it's not even close. And boys are overwhelmingly the victims.

A lot more women have a diagnosis of Major Depressive Disorder than men.

This is because women go to the doctor while men kill themselves. It's well known that men are much less likely to seek medical help and don't like to discuss their mental health because society conditions that it's OK for women to show vulnerability but men who do so are weak.

And it's not just toxic masculinity that causes this. Dominant/assertive men are generally more attractive to women so we support this dynamic through our societal preferences.

no

a number of us hate that too many men are harmful to children and particularly women

what is not to hate and be angry about that

But just because you say it's a ham fisted analogy doesn't make it so. It befits your argument to dismiss it.

As I said, it's shifting the goalposts to focus on the number of women killed but then not make that the focus with the men and instead prioritise attempts.

End of the day, a 'successful' suicide is the worst case scenario because there's no recovery from that. And you could equally argue that men choosing more effective methods is because they definitely want to die. Like, jumping off a 20 storey building or putting a shotgun in your mouth can't really be confused with a cry for help/attention.