To think most women on here hate men

Indeed.

There is a certain brand of internet commentary which goes directly on the attack against women on a fairly frequent basis. It chucks a grenade into the mix, stands back and waits for it to go off, then cries 'victim' and makes the claim of being bullied and abused when its target retaliates. Such cases have been known to go to court.

This tactic, as deployed rather unsuccessfully by this thread's OP, is revealing.

@PamPamPamPam Perhaps my employers should allow me to use the bathroom when I need to, especially when I'm menstruating? Doesn't happen BTW... I'm a primary teacher. Can often go for 3.5/4 hours without being able to visit the bathroom. Bleeding often heavy as I'm peri.
Children cannot be left unsupervised, regardless of whether their teacher is male or female.

@Oneofthesurvivors of course not, we should just place a bucket under our desks and carry on! (Sarcasm). Women are their own worst enemies sometimes.

Again, it's ingrained misogyny.

"I'm not like those other pathetic women, I'm different! I can give any man a run for his money!" Let's see how far that gets you when the shit hits the fan.

And I'm assuming that all the women that are arguing that men have it just as tough and women don't need any additional support or consideration will not take any maternity leave if they have children, will attend all pregnancy-related appointments in their own time, and will not bother their doctors with any menstruation or menopause-related issues.

And please make sure to schedule childbirth for after 5pm or on the weekends so that you are fresh and ready to get back to work the next day thank you-those spreadsheets aren't going to fill themselves!

You are the one claiming women are "practically abusive" for disagreeing with you yet claiming a man shouting and screaming isn't abusive

So the further claims of being attacked when you are disagreed with make it all a bit of a hypocritical thread tbh

Maybe don't make a thread claiming women shout abuse too easily, and then claim ou are being practically abused off the back of some forum posts.

@Missamyp it's interesting that you perceive people are "attacking" and "bullying" for simply being forthright in their opinions. Would you have as much of an issue if men disagreed with you so vehemently? Or would you perceive that they were being "assertive" and "challenging"?

But of course we are all just bitches and harridans I guess.

The PP is doing nothing of the sort.

If you post a thread with the clear intention of goading the site's membership (re-read the thread title for clarification if this is in any way confusing), then any claim as to being 'under attack' when people draw understandable conclusions about this appears disingenuous at best.

The thread has doubtless been entertaining, if not for the reasons you intended (whatever those might have been).

Agree. And men who moan that women hate men only care because it hurts their ego. Women aren't generally a real threat to them.

You don't think women should have time off work if they are anemic or passing out/throwing up from pain?

Why not?

Seriously you need to move away from perceiving men as the default human and the idea that this is just the way it is. It really is not. The world of work does not need to be like this. Society does not need to be like this. This is the world that men created to suit their own needs: not ours, not the planet's, not other species', just theirs. And everyone else is suffering as a result. So again, why not?

God, actually I don't care if women hate men, I don't hate all men (just most of them) but I totally support any woman who wants as little to do with men as possible, and I just don't give a shit if it upsets anyone.

@PamPamPamPam Effects of having periods? Not sure what you think employers should do about this? Give me time off?

@ToveJanssonsWife I'd rather be labelled a bitch than tolerate a lazy husband! My husband pulls his weight; always has done, always will.
And equally, I pull mine.

You don't get to come on here complaining that women are to blame for being hateful when men traumatise them, state absolute falsehoods about what happens here, and then paint yourself as the victim when people tell you what you sound like.

Thank you. I am in a better place now but still live with the after effects such as I cannot go into an independent shop, a nightclub or pub, I cannot deal with male police officers or workmen, I’ll never be able to get a takeaway or a taxi etc. And of course people don’t understand any of that, I’m just a ‘weirdo’.

I hope the person you know who has had a similar experience is getting some support and will get through everything that has happened to her.

@Itsnotverywide - that post is horrific. Simply horrific. Words can't express how sorry I am that you had to go through that.

The men who used and abused your body as a form of transaction are monsters. Every single one of them. And life after trafficking is a very, very lonely and confusing place to be. I personally know someone who's coming through a similar experience of being out on the other side, always fearful for her safety, whilst the lowlife criminals who did this to her still walk free.

I truly hope you are in a better place now ❤

Nearly all of them.
It's like sophistry hour on here.
Then there'll be patriarchy posters.

On Mumsnet, it's become a swell of pop thinking or even dare I say socialisation. Men=the enemy.
Those who say the opposite are attacked and bullied.

Because when we realise this is what happens and we do something about it we are called misandrists and bitches.
When we post based on what we know we’re called man haters.
We can’t win.

Women put up with it because it’s the norm for so many families. Something has to happen to undertake that your man isn’t one of the good ones, but if those of us who’ve learnt say it we’re still in the wrong. We can’t win 😂

@ToveJanssonsWife But why do we as women put up with it from men? Why don't we say "No our child is equally yours and we're both at work so you can collect from nursery and take time off to look after?" Or "No, I'm not doing all of the cooking and cleaning as well as working ft."
If my husband didn't do those things he wouldn't be my husband any longer!

I don’t think all women on here hate men, no. But I do.

When I was very a newborn my dad cheated on my mum, yet again, and left her with 4 children to raise alone, paying nothing and never seeing us again.

When I was 8 I was sexually abused by my male teacher, the male head said ‘he wouldn’t do that’ and called the witnesses ‘silly girls’. I had to move schools to a worse one.

When I was 11 I got a ‘boyfriend’ who was 30, forced me to take drugs, then sex trafficked me. For years I was raped by many, many men. I was ‘traded’ for drugs, alcohol, pizza, money or whatever else my ‘boyfriend’ needed. Not one man, in many, many years, ever helped me. I was ‘offered to taxi drivers, shop or takeaway workers, workmen, gas engineers, meter readers, delivery drivers etc and they all said yes to raping me in return for money or free services.

Female police officers helped me escape and took me home after seeing my ‘boyfriend’ beat me severely in a taxi because I couldn’t make the taxi driver cum quick enough and punched me so hard my nose bled for days after. The taxi driver just waited while he did that until he finished so I could get back to giving him a blow job. I had to be moved away from the area as my ‘boyfriend’ wasn’t charged with anything and was free to find me.

Years later I trusted a man enough to marry him, he lied to me about something huge and then cheated on me.

Aside from that men have catcalled me, harassed me, touched me, assaulted me, sworn at me, thrown things at me and more.

In my whole life I have never known a good man. The men who are talked up as ‘good’ by colleagues, friends or family, aren’t when they’re in certain situations - I’ve seen it or experienced it first hand.

So yes, I hate men, because over many years, out of hundreds of men, they all said yes to raping me as a child and a teenager, none ever helped me and that doesn’t encompass everything I’ve been through.

“Men succeeding at work usually have someone supporting them so they don’t need to do the domestic stuff at home. Women succeeding are more likely to do so despite holding the fort at home as well”

To be fair this part is nothing to do with female physiology, but in society it’s very much women relied upon to step up with caring roles and housework.
A vagina is not a requirement in these roles, but those with a penis only seem to step up when there isn’t a handy woman around to pick up the pieces, and caring roles aren’t exactly jobs you can go on strike with. Someone has to do it, and it’s usually a woman.

That's the thing isn't it.. why do you think some women hate men? It's not for shits and giggles.
The threads where a woman shares about her bad relationship is answered by women who have been there. They know the signs and try to help.
Some posters are just trolls and get a kick out of "ltb" etc etc

Equality doesn't have to mean exactly the same. You can recognise differences. That's fine.