Muslim vote (the group, not people generally)

These are people who have been elected, not tiny fringe groups.

Pretty sure this is a tiny fringe group, being pumped up by the right wing press. I googled "Muslim Vote for Labour" and the only thing I found were stories in the Daily Mail and Telegraph about "Muslim Group's Outrageous Demands".

So yes, it's a terrible demand that reflects extremely badly on the group making it, but it's been presumably cherry picked for coverage for that particular purpose.

No, of course it’s not racist not to want extremists (of any political or religious persuasion) influencing politics. But using expressions like ‘one of their own’ definitely is racist or, in this instance, Islamophobic.

It’s an unreasonable demand. Of course it is. It would be unreasonable no matter what the religious beliefs of the people making it. But the second you start using language like that, any sane, sensible person switches off, because you are making yourself sound just as much of an extremist (in the same mould as Tommy Robinson) as the individuals making the demand.

Objecting to attempts by a religious group to interfere with the running of the law and government is not a phobia of any sort it is rational thinking.
Calling this “islamophobia” in this instance is akin to shrieks of bigot about women wanting safe spaces and protection of their rights from men who now say they are women.
We can’t be too frightened of being accused of non existent bigotry to protect ourselves and separation of church and state.

So was I
Funny how people turn out differently isnt it?

It’s a good job Starmer has a backbone like an iron rod then eh? 😉

I hope you’re right, though I am born and bred in one of these towns and have experienced it somewhat differently.

Religion has no place whatsoever in the laws and governance of a civilised society.

In every religion, you get the far-right ideology. I'm Muslim (background) live in an area in London heavily condensed with muslim population and I never hear from muslims what I read online. Majority are ordinary people in their host country getting on their lives like you and me.

Just because you read something from a particular group does not mean the majority think the same.

Even as a muslim I will never agree with everything a muslim does or says. In fact, you should just follow the book and not bat shit crazy people who hide under religion. There is no way any political party will buckle under that demand. It is unreasonable and no one group should be able to wield that much power.

who is demanding this?
Again, it'll be a small group thinking they can represent Muslims. There are lots of Muslims who hate Khan and vote conservative too.

YABU due to use of "I'm not being funny" which is a wanky expression.

Is it racist to not want hard line Islamists putting undue pressure on UK lawmakers? Gosh, that’s handy

It looks that way. After all Labour mayors were elected last week in areas with very high Muslim populations.

"How mainstream terrorism has become" don't worry dear, when it's a non-Muslim carrying out terrorist activities it will still be because the poor dear had mental heath issues. Nothing to see.

"Install one of their own" what does that even mean?

The racists probably don't know how to feel like week with Humzah stepping down but Sadiq being voted in by a majority.

It never does unfortunately
At the moment I just look for the anti islam Thread de jour on here
There are other more subtle posts as well such as the comment on a thread where OP is concerned about the relationship between her DD and Uncle and someone asks if he is Asian due to "concerns about things in the news"
I thought it might calm down after the Mayoral elections but it seems not

When people on mumsnet are saying well actually a bit of sharia law in Britain would be a rather good thing, you have to wonder just how mainstream terrorism has gone. Not to mention all the useful white idiots praying and chanting allahu Akbar outside universities.

Ah yes, Islamophobia… nothing to see here, no threat whatsoever. Oh look, the “far right” squirrel…!

It didn't take long for islamophobia to raise its ugly head.

Blimey

Yes they can