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Expect 2 year old to sit quietly in restaurants

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Atovell · 07/05/2024 00:10

Hi,

we have recently been on a holiday to the Lake District with me, DP, DS (2yo) and MIL. Firstly, I should add some background info.

MIL and DP are huge foodies and love eating out all the time. I of course enjoy good food too. However, whenever they are with my DS (2yo) all they want to do is go for lunch, dinner, drinks etc. up until he was around 2 it was ok, he would be kept amused by toys or us. The last 6 months has been more difficult, he won’t be interested in anything we try and all he wants to do is get up and walk and explore or go outside.

MIL booked a break to the Lake District for 5 nights for us all. I explained to DP that it sounds great however him and MIL can’t expect DS to be happy and content with being in bars and restaurants constantly. He goes to nursery 3 days a week now and on the other days we go to play group and meet up with friends with other children. DP said it would be fine and not to stress as it makes DS worse.

we have just got back from holiday and it was a nightmare. All they wanted to do was eat out 3 times a day and in between they just wanted to walk around the shops. After day 2 I explained that he’s bored and all he wants to do is be outside and play/explore. Plus he’s in a new environment and he was excited. I think the penny dropped for DP after a few days, however MIL kept insisting on going for meals etc. I would let them go inside and order and when the food was ready, I would take DS inside to eat. MIL is a very slow eater and takes around 1 hour to finish a meal and her drink. At this point DS was getting bored so I took him outside. As soon as he was outside and in the fresh air h was good as gold and so happy.

I’ve told them both that I don’t think it’s fair to expect him to sit at the table for hours on end each day and get annoyed when he gets bored and starts getting irritable.

is anyone else’s 2yo like this??? Would anyone else excited their 2yo to sit in a restaurant 3 times a day and not get irritable???

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tash7779 · 08/05/2024 22:04

No

BlueMum16 · 08/05/2024 22:04

Centre parcs will be perfect for you.

Lots of stuff to do with DC and child friendly bars/restaurants for evening meals but make sure you book in advance as they get booked up. They have colouring pads and play areas in each.

We've been centre parcs every year since DS was 18 months old and he's 18 this summer.

shehasglasses48 · 08/05/2024 21:57

Stop taking free holidays and plan and pay for your own?

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/05/2024 21:02

Sounds like it's been a holiday for your in-laws and not you or DS.

This. Why wasn't DH doing half the wrangling?

And I feel for you with the slow eating. DM takes hours and expects everyone to sit politely waiting for her. Aarrrrrgggghhhhhh. She'll pick up a fork, start talking and I'm staring at it, willing it to get bloody eaten so we can LEAVE.

Iloveacurry · 08/05/2024 20:56

How come dealing with your DS was down to you? Did your DH not step up occasionally? I wouldn’t be going on holiday with the MIL for a while. Sounds like she wants a child free / stress free holiday.

ColdWaterDipper · 08/05/2024 20:41

Never mind the 2 year old, it’s a huge waste of the lake district for anyone, just walking round shops and going to restaurants! When our eldest was 2 he climbed one of the highest peaks in the lakes under his own steam and thoroughly enjoyed it. I do expect toddlers to be able to sit through a meal out generally but not 3x a day everyday. I wouldn’t sit politely for that number of trips out and I’m in my 40s! If I were you I would pack up some sandwiches and take your toddler out on some adventures instead, then maybe meet up for an evening meal.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 08/05/2024 20:36

when DS was late primary age I could manage him on fairly grown up holidays so long as we found about 3 parks a day (lots of beautiful medieval European cities have parks as well as historic architecture). And that was 7-9 years older than your DS

ineedtostopbeingdramaticfirst · 08/05/2024 20:35

No I wouldn't expect a two year old to manage that.

I'd question why the two adults need pandering too more than the two year old.

I'd plan some day trips next time. Lakes are beautiful and there's loads of fab stuff for kids to do.

Your mil can do what she likes but your dh needs to be entertaining your child with you.

TemuSpecialBuy · 08/05/2024 20:24

Is anyone's 2 year old NOT like this???

I would have let DS go full tilt and leave the two of them to deal with it.

I think old(er) people just forget how it is...

FreddieMercurysCat · 08/05/2024 20:23

For god’s sake - he’s two! Totally normal behaviour. If you DH and MIL can’t understand this let them go on an adults only holiday together and take your boy to have age appropriate fun elsewhere.

crumbpet · 08/05/2024 20:21

This sounds like a nightmare and I'd be so incredibly stressed I'm not sure I'd last the whole trip before I packed up and went home

BooBooDoodle · 08/05/2024 20:18

I live 20 mins from the Lakes and apart from the odd Michelin Star rated restaurants, most of the food around here is extra luxurious pub grub with a postcoded price tag. You pay for a tad nicer than nice food in a nicer setting and the food isn’t that much different wherever you go. Meal with a lake or fell view will probably cost a fiver more compared to the same meal with a view of a village street. How you’ve afforded to eat out three times daily I don’t know!
You’ve missed out on so much, especially your child. So much exploring to do and lots of child friendly walks and activities. I feel sorry you’ve wasted what could have been an amazing break with your little one, through no fault of your own. So many family venues with on site eateries so everyone could have been accommodated fairly easily.
MIL needs to go and have days out on her own or holiday on her own, she sounds very selfish and your DP should have made you and your son his priority.

Carelessebba · 08/05/2024 20:03

It really depends how you eat at home. The three of you sit at the table for every meal, breakfast included, it might work. You eat wherever and whenever, taking a bite and wandering off, in from of the telly, with a screen, it will be a disaster.
Expectations were too high on both sides.

Anonymous2025 · 08/05/2024 19:57

I would be annoyed if sitting in a restaurant 3 times a day lol and I love my food .. next time just don’t holiday with them

Atovell · 08/05/2024 19:53

Thanks for everyone’s replies. As I said previously, I think we all felt obliged to follow MIL lead as she paid for the trip. I did take DS to the parks, alpaca farm, boat trips etc but it was just the meal times that we felt we had to be there for.

after a couple of days and it was very clear DS wasn’t up for these sit down meals, I took us both out of the situation and done something fun and that I knew he would enjoy and be content.

MIL just made me feel that DS was being badly behaved as she said ‘ my children used to love eating out and would sit there for hours nicely’…..

as I say, lesson learnt and I will definitely be more assertive when they suggest doing said things in future.

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JC89 · 08/05/2024 19:49

We took DS(3) to Sheffield, he loves anything with wheels so wanted to go on the tram. You can get the train into the peak district, also plenty of indoor options if the weather is rotten (we did the emergency services museum and the trampoline park, there is also swimming, climbing, ice skating, Lego shop...

Ap42 · 08/05/2024 19:40

Hell no! I would be bored and irritable and I'm 43. My children at that age would never have managed that. It's a bit unreasonable of the in laws not to expect some fun stuff to be added on for your son, swimming, soft play etc... May have made the meal times more bearable. I doubt I would go away with them again.

llizzie · 08/05/2024 19:30

Before I vote one way or another, how long is 'hours and hours on end'? I wouldn't expect anyone to sit for however long that is supposed to be.

My children are adults. When they were young my MIL - who I loved very much - told me off for giving them ice cream in the street. She said they should be taken to an ice cream parlour. Well they didn't have any of those outside London where we lived, but it made me think, so I took to taking them into a tea room in the town, where they could have what they wanted and it was just me and them.

They were devils at home, every mealtime, something, but whenever we ate out, they were just lovely. We had the whole class in to birthday parties when they were little, so they behaved then, and later had birthday parties in restaurants with waiters singing bringing in the cake.
I think children can be taught at a very early age how to behave in public, but they may have to let rip somewhere, and if that was at home, I accepted it, because I could take them out from toddlers.

Mumoftwo1312 · 08/05/2024 14:20

Atovell · 07/05/2024 23:05

You’re right - however I’m not sure what that is at the moment? The original plan was 5 nights in Liverpool (I have been before but when I was with friends and childless!) but I said I don’t think Liverpool is a place for a toddler. It then changed to the LD.

I wouldn’t expect MIL to do Butlins I guess, however when she changed to the LD from Liverpool I thought it sounded more child friendly however I guess she had other ideas on what that meant. She did suggest the pencil museum for DS but I opted for the Alpaca farm for me and him!

I am feeling slightly more optimistic as DP now agrees with me and knows our DS will not enjoy sitting at a table for hours everyday.

we have booked center parcs and Butlins now, just us 3!

So many options between that and butlins.

Some things we have done: airbnb near the seaside: one naice restaurant meal a day, otherwise picnics/fish and chips on the beach. Breakfast in the holiday cottage just like home.

Luxury toddler friendly hotels like the Ickworth and New Park Manor. Fine dining with a playground!

We haven't done the lake district with the kids but we've done the peak district where my ILs live. So many things to do like go to the petting farm, etc.

WhatNoRaisins · 08/05/2024 09:01

I'm not convinced that all parents of grown up children have accurate memories of the toddler years. To be fair I can understand why you'd want to block some stuff out.

Blinkingmarvellous · 07/05/2024 23:45

You'll have a lovely time at butlins. I've got such happy memories of the just for tots breaks.

Atovell · 07/05/2024 23:32

Starlightstarbright3 · 07/05/2024 23:19

I litterally stopped taking my child out to eat at that age it was so awful .

YANBU

It’s so un-enjoyable for us and everyone around us, I don’t know why she wanted to keep doing it! If I was her, I would rather go out on my own and eat in peace rather than listening to a 2yo shriek constantly 😂

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WyrdyGrob · 07/05/2024 23:26

JFC. I’m 50 and I’d have a tantrum if I had 3x hour long meals every bloody day.

Atovell · 07/05/2024 23:21

AnxiousRabbit · 07/05/2024 20:55

How old are you?
30yrs ago? Mid 90s
25yrs ago? Early 00s
It was not common to take toddlers to restaurants. It wasn't that common to eat out often. But as we said. It's possible, you just have to plan around it. And when he us 3 or 4 he may well be great.

But there is an awful lot between Butlins and a gourmet granny shopping break.
There are some lovely independent holiday parks with loads of facilities. You can stay there, but still go out whenever yoh like, but with access to playgrounds and activities when you want them.

MIL needs to learn the Joy of a holiday with children is seeing things through their eyes! And as GM she gets to spoil him! She may not be interested in the zoo, or steam trains, but seeing a child get excited about a monkey or sitting on a train is so much better than a posh meal.

I’m 33. DP is 39 and MIL is 70.

agreed MIL won’t enjoy Butlins and I wld t expect her to come however I just wish she and my DP would have listened when I told them that we can’t do meals out all day etc as DS will be bored out of his mind! It seems no one cares about my opinion or DS enjoyment and expects me to pick up the pieces when it falls apart. my own mother doesn’t particularly enjoy Butlins either but she has said she will come along with us (we invited her) as she loves seeing DS happy and enjoying himself.

each to their own. Won’t make the same mistake twice!

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Starlightstarbright3 · 07/05/2024 23:19

I litterally stopped taking my child out to eat at that age it was so awful .

YANBU

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