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To think sportswomen shouldn’t have to forfeit competitions because male fckers are stealing their places?

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BronteH · 06/05/2024 18:39

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/darts/article-13387345/Im-not-playing-man-womens-event-Female-darts-star-FORFEITS-tournament-refuses-face-transgender-player-calls-ban-won-two-womens-titles.html

What a strong woman.

Why is it ok for men to ‘appropriate’ being women? Why is this not ‘sex appropriation’? Any other other form of ‘appropriation’ is unacceptable, it seems. Why are women supposed to accept this. Slight detour but applicable.

YANBU - Males should not be in female sports

YABU - Live and let live, males in female sport are just trying their best and mean no harm.

Darts star FORFEITS match as she refuses to face transgender player

Hedman is one of the most well known figures in the women's darts scene, and in the past has called on the PDC and WDF to exclude transgender athletes from women's tournaments.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/darts/article-13387345/Im-not-playing-man-womens-event-Female-darts-star-FORFEITS-tournament-refuses-face-transgender-player-calls-ban-won-two-womens-titles.html

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caringcarer · 07/05/2024 12:33

AnotherDelphinium · 06/05/2024 18:49

There should be two categories for all sports; open and women’s.

Open is for e v e r y o n e
Womens is for those born a female, who choose to remain a female and is there’s any question, also have a testosterone range of a biological female.

This hits the nail on the head.

heathspeedwell · 07/05/2024 12:32

Lia Thomas wasn't just stealing the trophies from the girls he was swimming against. He was getting a boner in the showers where 13 year old girls were undressing. And yet this kind of thing is still happening, and some women think they are being 'kind' and 'inclusive' to let it happen.

Really shows how men have done a number on us when women are so keen to prioritise men's wants over our own need for privacy, dignity and safety.

FrippEnos · 07/05/2024 12:24

BronteH · 06/05/2024 21:38

🤬 Those poor girls. Good to see the lawyer is pushing for them.

Ref the boy ’We knew that being treated like a girl made her happy because it affirmed who she was’

Ref the female athletes- On April 25, despite no previous warning or reprimand from school administrators, a principal informed the girls’ parents that the athletes who protested would not be allowed to compete in an upcoming track-and-field meet.

How about what made the girls happy, affirming who they are? Does that not matter? It would appear this is a one way street.

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I think that they have have been re instated now. But it may be another group of girls.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/mshsl-reinstates-cambridge-shot-putters-after-coachs-accidental-omission/

Rainbowshit · 07/05/2024 12:20

ArabellaScott · 07/05/2024 11:51

How is it when virtually everyone can see how fucking ridiculous and unfair this is, it's still happening?

Because it's females that are affected and males see females sport as unimportant.

ArabellaScott · 07/05/2024 11:51

How is it when virtually everyone can see how fucking ridiculous and unfair this is, it's still happening?

hollyblueivy · 06/05/2024 22:09

The sports associations should stop anyone that was not born female from competing in women's sports. A man has no place in women's sport.

Portakalkedi · 06/05/2024 21:48

pointythings · 06/05/2024 18:56

I think there should be three categories: Men, Women, Open. In practical terms that would mean that trans people would all compete in the Open category.

Notable exceptions would be sports which are already mixed, such as equestrianism.

Great in theory but the thing is that nobody would choose to enter the open or mixed category. Trans women, ie men, want only to bully their way into women's places.

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BronteH · 06/05/2024 21:38

dementedpixie · 06/05/2024 21:29

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/news/middle-school-girls-banned-from-track-competition-for-protesting-trans-sports-policies/amp/

And then these poor girls who refused to compete against a trans girl then got banned from other competitions

🤬 Those poor girls. Good to see the lawyer is pushing for them.

Ref the boy ’We knew that being treated like a girl made her happy because it affirmed who she was’

Ref the female athletes- On April 25, despite no previous warning or reprimand from school administrators, a principal informed the girls’ parents that the athletes who protested would not be allowed to compete in an upcoming track-and-field meet.

How about what made the girls happy, affirming who they are? Does that not matter? It would appear this is a one way street.

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jeaux90 · 06/05/2024 21:36

No woman should be pushed out of her own category for male performance of femininity.

EasternStandard · 06/05/2024 21:32

BronteH · 06/05/2024 21:28

I suppose it is mainly men who support and push for trans ideology. It’s almost like they all have certain motivations for it.

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Idk there’s a fair few women, on here and politicians - Dawn Butler and co

I don’t know why we keep the laws tbh when this is the outcome

GrumpyPanda · 06/05/2024 21:30

Those who don't see how there can possibly be male advantage in darts. FFS even the height the bloody board is hung at is geared towards the default male.

Rainbowshit · 06/05/2024 21:30

I'm so sick of this nonsense. Female sport exists to find the best female human, not the best sufficiently hobbled male.

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BronteH · 06/05/2024 21:28

EasternStandard · 06/05/2024 21:10

wtf

I can’t believe people support gender ideology when it’s got us here

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I suppose it is mainly men who support and push for trans ideology. It’s almost like they all have certain motivations for it.

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pointythings · 06/05/2024 21:13

SuziQuinto · 06/05/2024 21:10

One of the worst was that bloke weight lifter from NZ who displaced an indigenous woman from the team. Like they don't have enough to deal with.

And then to add insult to injury turned out to be useless as well. What a waste.

SuziQuinto · 06/05/2024 21:10

One of the worst was that bloke weight lifter from NZ who displaced an indigenous woman from the team. Like they don't have enough to deal with.

kitsuneghost · 06/05/2024 21:10

LauraNorda · 06/05/2024 18:49

I can't see how being a male can give you a competitive edge in darts against a woman but regardless of that, blokes should not be competing in female events.

Height, reactions, speed, strength.
A weaker throw will have less speed and drop more with less chance of being accurate. Reactions need to be good for release timing.
Many players also get shoulder injuries showing how much shoulder strength plays a part.

EasternStandard · 06/05/2024 21:10

dementedpixie · 06/05/2024 20:45

Fallon Fox has fought against women

A tweet from Fox in 2020 said: "For the record, I knocked two out. One woman’s skull was fractured, the other not. And just so you know, I enjoyed it. See, I love smacking up TEFS (sic) in the cage who talk transphobic nonsense. It’s bliss!

wtf

I can’t believe people support gender ideology when it’s got us here

AuContraire · 06/05/2024 21:08

If there is a women's category in anything, it's there for a reason. Might be strength/power reasons, might be social disadvantage reasons, doesn't matter.

No men should be in anything that is for women.

It's the women's category, it exists for women, not to give men an ego boost because they can't beat other men.

GuinnessBird · 06/05/2024 21:04

dementedpixie · 06/05/2024 20:45

Fallon Fox has fought against women

A tweet from Fox in 2020 said: "For the record, I knocked two out. One woman’s skull was fractured, the other not. And just so you know, I enjoyed it. See, I love smacking up TEFS (sic) in the cage who talk transphobic nonsense. It’s bliss!

I meant Fallon the darts player.

PontiacFirebird · 06/05/2024 20:47

I’m glad women darts and pool players are taking a stand, and it will help the pushback in other sports.
It boggles my mind that a journalist can write this sentence though:
“Van Leuven, who became a woman in 2014, won two tournaments in March “
It’s basically a lie, as it’s completely impossible for a man to become a woman!
It’s like writing that a lion has become a tiger or something. Just total fiction.

dementedpixie · 06/05/2024 20:45

Fallon Fox has fought against women

A tweet from Fox in 2020 said: "For the record, I knocked two out. One woman’s skull was fractured, the other not. And just so you know, I enjoyed it. See, I love smacking up TEFS (sic) in the cage who talk transphobic nonsense. It’s bliss!

GuinnessBird · 06/05/2024 20:34

Doesn't Fallon compete with the men?

wibblywobblywoo · 06/05/2024 20:29

LauraNorda · 06/05/2024 18:49

I can't see how being a male can give you a competitive edge in darts against a woman but regardless of that, blokes should not be competing in female events.

It's not about "competitive edge" 🙄 whether it's darts, chess or tiddlywinks there's only X number of places in any competition and they should ALL be filled by actual females.

And it's not just about that one day, it's about depriving someone of opportunity, progression, future earnings, promotional placements etc etc.

Bluetoe · 06/05/2024 20:11

takemeawayagain · 06/05/2024 20:09

Yes, maybe then there wouldn't be the pay gap.

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Well there would though, it's bigger in sport?

One competition could negate that.