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To think applying perfume pre-plane is antisocial?

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Confrontayshunme · 06/05/2024 13:11

My DM was always really sensitive to perfumes (lots of allergies), and she always said not to wear heavy perfume when you are in various places where people can't escape it (office meetings, carshares, planes, etc). It occurred to me, while a friend applied two squirts of every Britney Spears scent available in duty free, that coating yourself in perfume right before you are in a confined space is a bit antisocial. When I was pregnant I would have vomited profusely just walking through duty free, and I know some ND people who are sensitive.

Just wondering what other people think as I am a bit bored?

YABU - perfume before boarding is fine
YANBU - It is a bit anti-social.

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Jadedandlost · 07/05/2024 08:17

No more anti social than drinking coffee in a plane or other indoor space - which I’m sure you do Op. The smell of coffee can trigger a migraine or make me sick if I have a migraine. I don’t think it’s possible to police all smells!!

Sugarcoatedalmonds · 07/05/2024 07:32

INeedToClingToSomething · 07/05/2024 02:17

People are so selfish. There are multiple people on this thread explaining how perfume makes them varying degrees of unwell. And then loads of people saying how they don't think it's anti-social!?! Can you not forgo perfume (something that's completely unnecessary) for one day so that people with asthma, fragrance allergies, and COPD can fly without becoming ill? Most places you can move or leave if someone's fragrance is making you unwell. On a flight you are trapped. If it's going to cause severe health issues that means you can never fly. That seems very unfair all because of something that's a luxury. a nice-to-have, completely unnecssary.

If something as normal and socially acceptable as wearing a bit of perfume makes someone that unwell, they shouldn't be flying with a commercial airline.

I don't like sitting near large stag-do groups, unfortunately as I can't afford a private jet and don't want to do driving holidays then I put up with it.

strangewomenlyinginponds · 07/05/2024 06:14

It's not anti social at all, of course - any more than putting on make up or putting products in your hair is - because for the most part people are just doing it for fun and enjoyment and without any realisation that it might be inconvenient to others.

If you were travelling with a friend who knew you didn't like strong perfume and they went ahead and sprayed themselves anyway, that would be unkind.

Not anti social though, since society for the most part is fine with people wearing perfume. It genuinely wouldn't occur to most people to think it was an issue. After all, strong smells are absolutely everywhere.

I don't love strong perfumes or wear heavy scents myself, and don't love it in others, but it is what it is.

And I wouldn't spray myself with duty free perfume because I am very selective about what perfume I wear. I spray myself in the morning before leaving for work and that's it,, but I do reapply deodorant during the day.

However because I had a friend who was sensitive to sprays I do that in an open area, not in the toilet or breakroom or in the office, but in another room just off those rooms where nobody has to breathe it straight in.

But if others are spraying themselves with perfume or deodorant in the office that's just because that's what they do, they're not being anti social, at all.

It's a big wide world filled with people who have all sorts of allergies and conditions and we can't possibly be expected to constantly monitor everyone else's issues.

But it would be selfish of a friend or relative to do this around someone they knew had issues with it.

So, no, of course it's not anti social.

Wearing perfume, even heavy perfume and when travelling, is a commonly accepted practice and most people are fine with it - which is the opposite of anti social.

That might change, over time, if enough people complain, who knows?

SD1978 · 07/05/2024 05:52

I'd rather that than the farting and body odour smells, and the stench of people who seem to open the portal to hell when they shit in a tiny airplane toilet.

INeedToClingToSomething · 07/05/2024 02:17

People are so selfish. There are multiple people on this thread explaining how perfume makes them varying degrees of unwell. And then loads of people saying how they don't think it's anti-social!?! Can you not forgo perfume (something that's completely unnecessary) for one day so that people with asthma, fragrance allergies, and COPD can fly without becoming ill? Most places you can move or leave if someone's fragrance is making you unwell. On a flight you are trapped. If it's going to cause severe health issues that means you can never fly. That seems very unfair all because of something that's a luxury. a nice-to-have, completely unnecssary.

CornedBeef451 · 06/05/2024 21:23

I agree, I had to move train carriage once as someone got on wearing what smelled like a whole bottle of Angel.

I get migraines and so being trapped on a plane near someone drenched in perfume could make me very ill.

WoollyRosebud · 06/05/2024 21:22

Towerofsong · 06/05/2024 20:34

So you can't afford to buy expensive perfume and have to get the free squirts in duty free. And yet you assume that people with allergies can fly business class?

How do you know I can’t afford expensive perfume? Maybe I try and then buy.

On Mumsnet people are regularly told they should go and live in a field if they can’t stand noise. Whether they can afford to or not. Same should apply to perfume and business class travel surely.

Oblomov24 · 06/05/2024 21:17

Perfumes don't bother me and I like a strong smelling one. I don't think there's anything anti-social about spraying pre flight.

SewingIsMySuperPower · 06/05/2024 21:09

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 06/05/2024 14:31

Yadnbu.

It makes me feel sick. And for those saying it's better than BO there's nothing worse than the headymix of BO and sickly perfume. 🤢

I used to sit next to a smoker who would smother herself in Angel after every cigarette. Now I absolutely despise the smell of smoke (particularly stale smoke, makes me want to vomit), but she completely ruined that perfume for me. Now whenever I smell it, I can also smell cigarettes. So gross 🤢

TheDogIsInCharge · 06/05/2024 20:56

I love perfume. Absolutely adore it and have a drawer in my kitchen that is devoted to perfume. I wear different ones in different seasons and deciding on what perfume I wear each day is one of my favourite things. Since my third Covid infection I get awful allergic reactions to things like skincare or accessories and need an inhaler - but never for perfume.

i can confirm Gok smells amazing, as does Olly Murs, Christian Vit, Tyler West…

My interest in perfume means I usually really enjoy smelling it around me. Perfume triggers olfactory memories of time and place. It is so evocative: a whiff of old spice reminds me of my grandad, the original Paco Rabanne of my sixth form years and snogging teen boys at parties, Phantom reminds me of my much missed teen son at uni. I can trace my life through perfume, from the early days of borrowing my mum’s Opium, to Chanel no19 in my late teens, Escape in my twenties, Aveda purefumes in my thirties to a serious niche perfume addiction now.

If you love perfume then Luca Turin/Tania Sanchez books are things of joy. I cannot imagine a life without it.

The only flight I have ever gagged was one where loads of men had taken their shoes off. That was fucking grim and way worse than getting a whiff of Angel (mind you, my friend wears this and it smells wonderful on her).

VWT5 · 06/05/2024 20:36

Yes it’s unsociable, in a confined space I feel a bit helpless, I became wheezy and gaspy stuck alongside someone on a 4 hour flight wearingThierry Mugler Alien, not once but two separate flights. It was quite alarming tbh, I hadn’t anticipated a lung reaction.
Another flight with someone who had sprayed Sol De Janeiro (gorgeous vanilla scent) but a similar bad reaction.
Similarly a young woman dropped her yoga mat next to me in class - then sprayed her new Christmas perfume liberally, we had to open the fire door…

Towerofsong · 06/05/2024 20:34

WoollyRosebud · 06/05/2024 14:36

To me it's all part of the experience of flying to go and have a squirt of a lovely expensive perfume in duty free before boarding the plane. I would rather that aroma than garlic breath, BO, sick, unwashed human, airline toilets that have not been emptied between each flight. I do sympathise with people with allergies but maybe they should consider flying business class where they won't be so close to someone else.

So you can't afford to buy expensive perfume and have to get the free squirts in duty free. And yet you assume that people with allergies can fly business class?

NotARealWookiie · 06/05/2024 20:34

Perfume on planes is a pet hate of mine for this reason!

CrapBucket · 06/05/2024 20:32

Covering myself in free perfume is a start-of-holiday highlight for me! Then I move onto the hand creams and hope for a shot of some random alcohol if I’m very lucky.

Confrontayshunme · 06/05/2024 20:29

mitogoshi · 06/05/2024 19:26

Well as they literally are selling perfume in the airport, you can't expect them not to be tried. What's next, no deodorant?

I think this is the crux of it for me. I don't mind people wearing perfume generally, but duty-free is essentially killing time spraying 57 kinds of smell just to avoid sitting for three hours while waiting to get on an enclosed box.

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yhk · 06/05/2024 20:25

Last year I was on a flight and across the aisle was a man who absolutely stunk of cologne.

I had never encountered this before and it really bothered me. The guy was also buying aftershaves from the duty free and having them squirted onto a piece of paper to smell!

labamba007 · 06/05/2024 20:21

KreedKafer · 06/05/2024 15:11

It’s obviously not considered antisocial by airlines because plenty of them literally sell fragrances duty-free on board, and they don’t expect people to buy them without spraying a tester.

Ultimately, wearing perfume or aftershave is a very normal and run of the mill thing to do. It’s unfortunate if you have an extreme dislike/sensitivity to something that’s a normal daily thing, but I think expecting nobody else to wear fragrance because you’re bothered by it is a bit like expecting your neighbours to pave their gardens because you have hay fever.

You are right. I get instant migraines with strong perfumes and very much wish it was government mandated to ban them 😂 however there's not much I can do.

I am surprised though just how many people it bothers. I'd say 50% have some sort of aversion to strong perfumes!

Petrine · 06/05/2024 20:13

I love perfume and wear it at all times. I choose my fragrance according to where I’m going, the weather, and what I’m wearing, the occasion, day/night, etc.

To me it’s one of life’s great pleasures.

Sugarcoatedalmonds · 06/05/2024 20:03

DrCoconut · 06/05/2024 19:40

There is a special place in hell reserved for people who use perfume on public transport (and I count applying lots of it just before in that). It gives me migraine and being trapped in a confined space where there is no escape from the vile stench, feeling the pain and nausea get worse is just awful. It's antisocial behaviour and shouldn't be allowed.

Probably best you stay at home love 😂

Sugarcoatedalmonds · 06/05/2024 20:02

I like wearing perfume. I like smelling new perfumes at duty free and i try my favourite one on. I also wear it to work, on the bus and at the pub - just like the vast majority of women I know.

DoreenonTill8 · 06/05/2024 19:58

EmilyTjP · 06/05/2024 19:11

Mumsnet doesn’t like perfume now 😂😂😂

Is it going to be a new campaign?! BAN TOILETRIES!!

DrCoconut · 06/05/2024 19:45

@KreedKafer I won't be trapped in my neighbour's garden for 7 hours with recycled air though.

CandiedPrincess · 06/05/2024 19:42

I have never once in my 45 years been bothered by anybody else's perfume.

DrCoconut · 06/05/2024 19:40

There is a special place in hell reserved for people who use perfume on public transport (and I count applying lots of it just before in that). It gives me migraine and being trapped in a confined space where there is no escape from the vile stench, feeling the pain and nausea get worse is just awful. It's antisocial behaviour and shouldn't be allowed.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 06/05/2024 19:38

I always lash on a bit of Santal Blush at the airport, since I can't justify spending a few hundred quid on a bottle. I also like a waft of perfume or aftershave from other passengers much better than sweat or pringles or trainer feet, or the generally stale smell of an aeroplane.

And considering all the things that annoy us on planes (loud voices, annoying voices, screaming babies, squirming children, people who scuttle up and down to the toilet on a one hour flight, people who rummage in the overhead bins, couples licking each other's faces, drunken stag parties, gobshites in general) I think we need to accept it all stoically or not fly.